Why so many resales availbale for SSR?

[Maxwell]

There seems to be way more for sale on this boards' sponsor site. SSR is fairly new, I would think they would have less. Any thoughts?

 

[White_Sox_Fan]

OY! Not again.

1) SSR is the largest resort
2) SSR is new, most of it's owners are new owners that may not have realized what they were getting into.
3) SSR, being new, still has a lot of people paying off loans for their purchase. In these times they may not have the additional money to pay the loans.

When AKV sells out we'll have to wait a few years to see if they have a similar re-sale situation since it is also such a large resort.

 

[toocherie]

Yawn.

May I suggest that you read back on these forums a bit and see that this topic has been brought up "ad nauseum."

And I'm sure any minute all the SSR haters will be here to give you all sorts of reasons why so many people are trying to dump their interests and tell you what a drag SSR is on the DVC community . . . . to be followed closely by the SSR lovers who will defend the resort to the end and tie the number of sales to the size of the resort, the timing of the original sales, the economy, etc. etc. etc.

I bought SSR because it was the best choice for me at the time because I really wanted a first right to purchase Grand Californian when it became available. Having usually stayed at DLR resorts I'm sure ANY of the DVC timeshares will be a step up. I am staying at SSR in just over two weeks and am glad to be doing so. I have also booked at Boardwalk next spring. Again, glad to do so and glad to have the right to do different things at different times.

I really have to wonder about people who constantly need to tear down someone else's choices in order to rationalize their own purchasing decisions.

My apologies to the OP if he/she really was just wondering--it just seems that a lot of the posts that begin "gee, I wonder why there are so many SSR resales?" really are just disguised means of saying SSR must be inferior to another resort and it's getting to be a really old ploy!

 

[dzorn]

I'm starting to think this needs a sticky!

Denise in MI

 

[Maxwell]

Sorry, just asking.

 

[childsplay]

I understand that this topic has been discussed at length, but if we are going to become impatient, or worse, indignant everytime someone starts a thread about a topic that has already been discussed then we might have to shut down the boards.
Because the reality is that after 8+ years of following these discussions less and less is actually "new", its just information and questions being asked differently, or about a different resort.

 

[Cerigirl]

I believe that DVC is just becoming a BIG THING and many didn't really know it existed until SSR was offered. It could be seen as you trundled along on the way to DTD and looked very enticing to so many. It has many owners and some are obviously needing to back out of the sale, in this present climate there must be many members struggling and I guess if you looked over the board, the numbers of people selling on a general scale would be the same. SSR just looks more, as many members joined recently and maybe are re-thinking their finances.

As a resort, it is lovely, so no problems there.

 

[toocherie]

I understand that this topic has been discussed at length, but if we are going to become impatient, or worse, indignant everytime someone starts a thread about a topic that has already been discussed then we might have to shut down the boards.
Because the reality is that after 8+ years of following these discussions less and less is actually "new", its just information and questions being asked differently, or about a different resort.

My issue is not with someone who asks a legitimate question. I will answer the same question about how do you get from resort A to resort B or which dining plan is better all day long.

My issue is with people who in some type of passive-aggressive manner ask a question because they want to inflame a situation or needle other owners (because they think their resort is better than the other owners' resort) or make themselves feel better about their own choices by back-handedly criticizing another resort. I have seen that tactic too many times on this board. I am tired of it. If you honestly believe that SSR is too big and doesn't have enough amenities you can crow about that until the cows come home. Start a thread with that topic.

But don't insult my intelligence by "innocently" asking a question thinking it's a way to get SSR haters to come out of the woodwork and tell you and everyone else that the "real" reason SSR has a number of resales currently is because it's an inferior resort to the others.

If you will note, my earlier post apologized in advance to the OP if he or she in fact was asking the question legitimately. However, a little bit of research and looking at the threads in this forum would have brought up this exact same thread two or three times just recently. Therefore, that was the reason I questioned the legitimacy of the inquiry and whether it wasn't just another way to start the "SSR is inferior" discussion all over again.

Again, if the OP really was wondering my apologies--but it might be worthwhile for people to read back two or three pages before posting (since I know the search function doesn't work a lot of the time).

 

[Maxwell]

My issue is not with someone who asks a legitimate question. I will answer the same question about how do you get from resort A to resort B or which dining plan is better all day long.

My issue is with people who in some type of passive-aggressive manner ask a question because they want to inflame a situation or needle other owners (because they think their resort is better than the other owners' resort) or make themselves feel better about their own choices by back-handedly criticizing another resort. I have seen that tactic too many times on this board. I am tired of it. If you honestly believe that SSR is too big and doesn't have enough amenities you can crow about that until the cows come home. Start a thread with that topic.

But don't insult my intelligence by "innocently" asking a question thinking it's a way to get SSR haters to come out of the woodwork and tell you and everyone else that the "real" reason SSR has a number of resales currently is because it's an inferior resort to the others.

If you will note, my earlier post apologized in advance to the OP if he or she in fact was asking the question legitimately. However, a little bit of research and looking at the threads in this forum would have brought up this exact same thread two or three times just recently. Therefore, that was the reason I questioned the legitimacy of the inquiry and whether it wasn't just another way to start the "SSR is inferior" discussion all over again.

Again, if the OP really was wondering my apologies--but it might be worthwhile for people to read back two or three pages before posting (since I know the search function doesn't work a lot of the time).

I can see that it is a redundant question at this point and in no means meant to compare any resorts. I own at BWV and have been since 1999 and I was looking at a potential add on for the BW through resale. As I was searching I simply looked through all the resales and was quite surprised by the number of resales at SSR. I do not normally frequent this board and usually spend my time on DVC Planning so I simply asked a question with the intent on getting an answer. As for the search function, I have not had the best of luck when looking for specific information.

 

[bobbiwoz]

There seems to be way more for sale on this boards' sponsor site. SSR is fairly new, I would think they would have less. Any thoughts?

There are a fair number of AKV's for sale as well, and that's even newer.

I'm someone who never considered SSR, but am now considering an add on because of the treehouse section. I'm trying to decide if buying resale or waiting for DVC to offer incentives is best. Maybe some of the sellers are trying to unload before DVC offers whatever they will.

Bobbi

 

[dalt01]

Yawn.

May I suggest that you read back on these forums a bit and see that this topic has been brought up "ad nauseum."

And I'm sure any minute all the SSR haters will be here to give you all sorts of reasons why so many people are trying to dump their interests and tell you what a drag SSR is on the DVC community . . . . to be followed closely by the SSR lovers who will defend the resort to the end and tie the number of sales to the size of the resort, the timing of the original sales, the economy, etc. etc. etc.

I bought SSR because it was the best choice for me at the time because I really wanted a first right to purchase Grand Californian when it became available. Having usually stayed at DLR resorts I'm sure ANY of the DVC timeshares will be a step up. I am staying at SSR in just over two weeks and am glad to be doing so. I have also booked at Boardwalk next spring. Again, glad to do so and glad to have the right to do different things at different times.

I really have to wonder about people who constantly need to tear down someone else's choices in order to rationalize their own purchasing decisions.

My apologies to the OP if he/she really was just wondering--it just seems that a lot of the posts that begin "gee, I wonder why there are so many SSR resales?" really are just disguised means of saying SSR must be inferior to another resort and it's getting to be a really old ploy!

if we took on your attitude every time a young child looks up and asks why is the sky blue we would say, jeez kid if i hear that question one more time, keep in mind just because something is old hat to us it may be new to others. think of the millions and millions and millions and millions of refillable mug threads DUDE, lighten up

 

[dudelydude]

Maxwell,

Just in case you are still confused by the onslaught, let me expand a bit. First, I agree that it is sometimes frustrating to see the same exact thread title (that most equate with negativity) that we have seen (multiple times) gracing these boards for many, many months now...maybe longer. One always wonders why the poster didn't read through a couple of pages of thread titles to make sure they are not duplicating. No fault of yours, however, because as a pp eluded to, it is your right to ask any question that you want as long as you are not violating any of the DIS policies (hey - look at me - I'm a moderator ). Next, I have read some threads and been involved with others on this topic where some posters brutally criticize SSR as the black sheep of the DVC resorts, leaving the owners to defend what is theirs. It ain't pretty. And one of the pp's is totally correct when they said that some people intentionally (and passive-agressively) throw this topic out there with the hopes of starting a battle. This has made many SSR owners angry and defensive with good reason (in my opinion of course).

I have read some of your previous posts and can tell that you were (in fact) innocently asking this question, so my apologies if there are any hard feelings and I hope you understand why the pent-up anger from some of our SSR friends.

Over the last few days, I read a thread where to OP said that SSR was the most beautiful of the DVC resorts. It was really quite refreshing to see that.

Hope that helps. Have a great day.
Joe

 

[dalt01]

BTW i love SSR, love the DTD view from Congress Park

 

[MILLZ]

Lol

 

[gray52]

I had to laugh Max... i asked the same question about two weeks ago and got hammered by a few... and belittled by a few others... and all we're doing is asking a question!
I do want to say that the majority of the people on this board are awesome and don't mind re-answering questions for us "newbies".
If you look through my posts, you'll find it in there with many really good answers.

 

[JimC]

Let's keep the discussion respectful and to the OPs question.

To the OPs inquiry: My sense is a combination of buyer's remorse and the economy, neither of which are resort specific. Unless one considers that the newest resorts have the largest percentage of "new" or at least recent buyers. And that SSR may out-pace its newer cousins for some time simply due to its overall size (already the largest resort) plus the new phase just announced which will bring it back into more sales and even larger capacity. Thus SSR currently leading the resale inventory is not surprising.

Buyer's remorse is also not resort specific but endemic to timeshare sales. Many sales are lost during the rescission period. But with DVC, one can also sell after the rescission period without the significant initial loss that most timeshare buyers of developer's inventory experience. Thus we see more resales and this affects the resorts with the highest percentage of new contracts; so again SSR is not surprising.

Another is the economy. There may be many who need to recalibrate their family budgets given the economy and timeshares are a luxury, not a necessity. Many finance their purchase and may find the monthly payment to burdensome in this environment. Again, I suspect that this is more likely to affect newer contracts.

At year end increased monthly dues can also send contracts to the resale market. This might be exacerbated this year with the deteriorating economy.

 

[dudelydude]

Thanks for finally showing up Jim. As the self-proclaimed Junior Moderator of this thread, I gotta tell ya...my arms are tired from holding some people back. I am yielding to you and will head elsewhere to defend the innocent.