Why so many Feb use years?

[Jrpbabe2003]

I have been keeping my eye on BLT resales and there are a ton of Feb use years! I want an April UY, has Disney only sold certain UY as of right now? If I am going to buy before our trip in 2012 I will need to buy soon if I want to take advantage of the 11 month reservation! TIA

 

[jadejazzkayla]

here's an april uy via timeshare store.

http://www.dvc-resales.com/detail.cfm?ID=BLT160-04-0417

 

[Jrpbabe2003]

Thanks, I did see that one. Will April use years be the majority in a few months? I think we are looking for something over 200 points.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

i found two more via another store but alas not enough points for you. 40 and 100. are april uy for blt sold out via disney or are you perfering to go resale for some other reason?

 

[Sandisw]

When BLT starting selling, Feb 2010 UY was the first one to receive points. Therefore, they pushed that with new buyers. Now it appears they are pushing the UY that will give new buyers the 2009 points.

Friends of mine bought in February and were offered a March UY so they could still get 2009 points. If you call DVC today, you will most likely be offered an Aug UY since that still qualifies for 2009 UY points (along with Sept, Oct, and Dec).

I think, over time, you will see other UY's show up but there is something posted somewhere that shows what percentage of the resort is assigned to each UY and I think that Feb UY is the biggest. We own June UY and from what I remember, it is one of the smallest.

 

[JWG]

Consider multiple lower point contracts? Especially once you get your first and can get no cost closing through Disney? It costs a bit more but gives much better flexability if you ever want to sell portions, or buy in elsewhere but don't want to end up with 600 pts.

I've heard a lot of people say they wish they'd split their larger contracts into smaller ones.

 

[wdrl]

I have been keeping my eye on BLT resales and there are a ton of Feb use years! I want an April UY, has Disney only sold certain UY as of right now? If I am going to buy before our trip in 2012 I will need to buy soon if I want to take advantage of the 11 month reservation! TIA

It does not surprise me that there are many BLT contracts with a February UY on the resale market. The February UY is the most common UY at BLT and, to date, accounts for 39.7% of the BLT points declared. Even if Disney places all the remaining undeclared Units in the other 7 UYs, February will still account for 34.4% of all points once BLT is sold out. There is a thread where we have been tracking BLT sales and UYs that you might find interesting (see http://www.disboards.com/showpost.php?p=37277171&postcount=186).

I doubt that we'll see April UY as the predominant UY at BLT except for a very brief window of sales in February and March 2011, right before the April 2011 UY begins. And this will occur only if Disney continues its current marketing practice of selling "double" points.

Good luck in finding a good resale contract!

 

[bumbershoot]

When BLT starting selling, Feb 2010 UY was the first one to receive points. Therefore, they pushed that with new buyers.

Yep!

We bought March '09, and got a Feb UY. And since at that point they were offering incentive points that weren't based on a UY (instead, they expired in Oct of that same year) and were very limited (but fine for our purposes...either SSR or at the Disneyland resorts), we still got extra points.

 

[disneynutz]

Anyone know why Disney is selling some months more that others? I am sure that they have a reason but I can't figure what it would be.

Bill

 

[Jrpbabe2003]

Thanks everyone! Now it makes sense. I will look for more April at the beginning of the year!

 

[wdrl]

Anyone know why Disney is selling some months more that others? I am sure that they have a reason but I can't figure what it would be.

Bill

That is a good question and I wish I knew the answer. Based on the data I've collected on sales at BLT, AKV, BWV, and VWL, I have noticed that each resort has one UY month that is predominant. If there was an equal distribution of points amongst the UYs, one would see about 12.5% in each month. Instead, the data shows the following percentage of points in the most common UY at each resort: February (39.7%) at BLT; December (37.8%) at AKV; December (19.5%) at BWV; and August (23.7%) at VWL (Note: BLT and AKV are based on declared-to-date Units). Perhaps if I looked at all DVC resorts I would find that the grand total of DVC points is equally distributed, but I doubt it.

I'm beginning to think that UY is not that important in the management of the Disney Vacation Plan as a whole. Although UY is important on an individual basis, does it really impact the management and administration of the DVP? Some individuals may avoid taking trips within the last four months of their UY, but I suppose many others take trips throughout the year. Thus, the UY probably does little to regulate demand or booking patterns within a resort or the DVP as a whole.

Why do we have 8 UYs? Why not 12 UYs, or only 6? or 4? Is 8 UYs just an arbitrary number? If anyone knows the answer to these questions, I'd like to hear it.

 

[Disfamoffour]

I was told by a diney guide that the Use Years are really only for Disney's internal purposes. As they declare units available they have to pay taxes on them. Declaring every unit for one use year would lead to a huge tax bill that Disney would not want to pay in one shot.

 

[wdrl]

I was told by a diney guide that the Use Years are really only for Disney's internal purposes. As they declare units available they have to pay taxes on them. Declaring every unit for one use year would lead to a huge tax bill that Disney would not want to pay in one shot.

I never thought about taxes affecting UYs. However,I can't imagine how Use Years affect taxes at a resort. I would think that as soon as BLT opened on August 4, 2009, Disney was responsible for any and all property taxes on that property The portion of BLT that wasn't declared for the DVC was still available for cash bookings direct from Disney, so I think Orange County would still tax all rooms. Perhaps Orange County has a different property tax rate for time share properties versus commercial hotels? If so, then I could see where the percent declared for DVC could affect Disney's tax bill. Nevertheless, I can't imagine why Orange County would distinguish between real estate that is placed in the February UY versus March or September or whatever.

By the way, I saw your post on another thread about getting an OKW contract. Welcome Home!

 

[cvjw]

It seems that some use years are smaller than others. We have a March use year, and every time we try and find a resale contract, there aren't many March use years available. Plenty of December, June and September, but never many Marchs to choose from.

 

[DenLo]

I have been keeping my eye on BLT resales and there are a ton of Feb use years! I want an April UY, has Disney only sold certain UY as of right now? If I am going to buy before our trip in 2012 I will need to buy soon if I want to take advantage of the 11 month reservation! TIA

That's why some people give up buying resale and buy direct with Disney or others go with two different UY, and the headaches that goes with it. We wanted to add on some points at AKV and wanted a February UY to match our BLT UY and we kept seeing a lot of October or December UY for resale. It appears each resort has a different UY that is sold more frequently.

 

[JWG]

It seems that some use years are smaller than others. We have a March use year, and every time we try and find a resale contract, there aren't many March use years available. Plenty of December, June and September, but never many Marchs to choose from.

That's why some people give up buying resale and buy direct with Disney or others go with two different UY, and the headaches that goes with it. We wanted to add on some points at AKV and wanted a February UY to match our BLT UY and we kept seeing a lot of October or December UY for resale. It appears each resort has a different UY that is sold more frequently.

Here is our issue. We really want to do an add on at BLT with an August use year. wdrl's chart has me super bummed that it likely won't happen through resale. Only 235,680 of the 4,969,455 declared points are in August. Now, there are still 1,060,560 unassigned but declared points and 764,075 undeclared points of which some could go to August.

There were some great February and September use year contracts through the Timeshare Store, only $92/pt. because no points until 2012. This was great for us because we already have trips planned throuh 2011 and don't need the pts. (and associated maintenance fees) until then. But we DO NOT want different use years as we know we'll likely want to pool points at the 7 month mark occasionally. I know we could do a points transfer, but we'd just prefer keep one member number and what not.

It appears, if we're set on that, we better buy Disney direct and soon as our guide said their inventory was at about 30 days on August (coincidence that it's 8/1 and he said 30 days???). I struggle with that $114 (after incentives) is a lot more than $92. $22 per point on 100 points is a lot of cash, even if closing costs are paid by Disney.

Ugh...

 

[disneynutz]

I'm beginning to think that UY is not that important in the management of the Disney Vacation Plan as a whole. Although UY is important on an individual basis, does it really impact the management and administration of the DVP? Some individuals may avoid taking trips within the last four months of their UY, but I suppose many others take trips throughout the year. Thus, the UY probably does little to regulate demand or booking patterns within a resort or the DVP as a whole.

Why do we have 8 UYs? Why not 12 UYs, or only 6? or 4? Is 8 UYs just an arbitrary number? If anyone knows the answer to these questions, I'd like to hear it.

I have learned that Disney does everything for a reason. We may never know what the reasons are but they have a plan and it usually benefits Disney.

Bill