WHy only POR?

[disneyobessed]

Im very gracious that Disney allows a "small" family of 5 in a room at POR Riverside.. im going to utilize this as long as I can.. but why only POR why not add these trundle beds to other moderates...?

 

[disneysmyhappyplace]

Im very gracious that Disney allows a "small" family of 5 in a room at POR Riverside.. im going to utilize this as long as I can.. but why only POR why not add these trundle beds to other moderates...?

Good question, I would love if they opened other moderates for families of five so we could experience other themes.

 

[Lynne M]

The local fire code only permits 5 per room in the Alligator Bayou section of POR. Fire code occupancy restrictions are usually determined by the number of bodies you can safely evacuate from a building in the event of an emergency, so I wouldn't expect other moderates - or the rest of POR - to start allowing 5 without significant construction - I'd guess they'd need to make changes to stairwells, corridor width, etc.

There's apparently a little bit of wiggle room at POR, as I've heard of them occasionally putting a family of 5 in other parts of the resort, but that may just happen when an AB room has to be taken out of service for maintenance, and they've got nowhere else to put a family of 5 with a reservation.

 

[Coconuts]

I know that the fire code answer is true, but why didn't Disney construct the rest of the mods or any newer resort up to these fire codes? Could it be that if you make your rooms to accomodate 5 people, you won't rent as many rooms? Nah, Disney couldn't have been thinking about money, ya think?

 

[Lynne M]

Well, sure, like any publicly held company, they're always thinking about profit. If not, the stockholders force the top guy out and replace him with someone who will make sure the employees are always thinking about profit.

But seriously, Disney needs to keep their resort categories differentiated, to encourage people to stay at the 'better', more expensive resorts. You need to give people reasons to stay at deluxes instead of moderates. Which is why deluxes get bigger rooms that sleep more people, queen beds, more restaurants, etc.

If all of the mods slept 5 per room, that's one less reason for guests to choose a deluxe resort.

 

[disneyobessed]

"But seriously, Disney needs to keep their resort categories differentiated, to encourage people to stay at the 'better', more expensive resorts. You need to give people reasons to stay at deluxes instead of moderates. Which is why deluxes get bigger rooms that sleep more people, queen beds, more restaurants, etc.

If all of the mods slept 5 per room, that's one less reason for guests to choose a deluxe resort.[/QUOTE]


I agree... but why did they make the Ft. Wilderness Cabins a moderate resort.. kind of stinks when room only discounts come out or AP discounts.. you dont get the delux discount when you are paying a delux price.

 

[Lynne M]

Resort categories don't have so much to do with room rates, as they do with amenities. There's a wide and overlapping range of rates in each category. Standard moderate rooms may cost less than a family suite at a value; some suites at CSR (a moderate) cost more than some deluxe resort rooms.

I suspect the FW cabins went into the moderate category because they didn't know where else to put it when they did away with the Home Away From Home category. It was the only resort in that category that wasn't a DVC resort, and the amenities at FW fall somewhere between the values and the deluxes, I guess.

 

[snykymom]

Disney has apparently gotten a little bit of the message - the Art of Animation resort across from POP will have quite a number of family suites that will sleep 5 or more.

 

[lustergirl]

Disney has apparently gotten a little bit of the message - the Art of Animation resort across from POP will have quite a number of family suites that will sleep 5 or more.

yes we are thinking of staying there and we are a family of 4.

 

[greengeen]

I know that the fire code answer is true, but why didn't Disney construct the rest of the mods or any newer resort up to these fire codes? Could it be that if you make your rooms to accomodate 5 people, you won't rent as many rooms? Nah, Disney couldn't have been thinking about money, ya think?

5 people in a room has never been the norm at hotels anywhere, Disney or not. The norm is 2 to 4 people. If you have more than 2 children, you have to accept the fact that you can't put everyone in one room when you travel. It's just one of the many financial considerations that folks should look at before having big families. I have four children myself, and we bought DVC, because the villas have plenty of space for us. You won't hear me complaining about Disney discriminating against big families, because they don't.

 

[tinkerbellybutton]

I really wish they'd add the trundle beds to the Animal Kingdom Lodge and Wilderness Lodge bunkbed rooms. What would be better for a family with 3 kids to have a seperate bed for each of their kids. Since the bunkbed only takes up the floor space of a twin bed there should be plenty of room for the trundle bed to pull out. We are a family of 4 so it doesn't affect us either way, but to me it would be a great option for a family of 5 to be able to stay at these two amazing resorts without haveing to get two rooms or a more expensive "Jr. suite" or whatever they are calling the rooms that sleep 5 at WL.

 

[AndyFL]

Im very gracious that Disney allows a "small" family of 5 in a room at POR Riverside.. im going to utilize this as long as I can.. but why only POR why not add these trundle beds to other moderates...?

Not sure why so many think that only POR has rooms for 5. I just checked and did a test reservation check....family of 5, 2 adults, 3 children (13,8,2 yrs old) and I was offered POR, POFQ, CBR, WLR.

 

[Coconuts]

Well, sure, like any publicly held company, they're always thinking about profit. If not, the stockholders force the top guy out and replace him with someone who will make sure the employees are always thinking about profit.

But seriously, Disney needs to keep their resort categories differentiated, to encourage people to stay at the 'better', more expensive resorts. You need to give people reasons to stay at deluxes instead of moderates. Which is why deluxes get bigger rooms that sleep more people, queen beds, more restaurants, etc.

If all of the mods slept 5 per room, that's one less reason for guests to choose a deluxe resort.

I understand that deluxes are going to have more room/sq footage, but instead of the bench or table/chairs, the mods could squeeze in a fold out chair/bed, as long as the fire code allows understandably.

If you think about it, families with more kids usually will have less money to spend on lodgings, or anything for that matter. Same income as smaller families, but more kids to supply for, so they would be less likely to spend the money for deluxes.

Just for the record, I'm not disagreeing with you or arguing, I'm just generally annoyed with the lodgings for families of 5+ (especially since I am one of them). See, I never thought of the budgets for WDW trips when we decided to have our last DD!

 

[grimley1968]

Not sure why so many think that only POR has rooms for 5. I just checked and did a test reservation check....family of 5, 2 adults, 3 children (13,8,2 yrs old) and I was offered POR, POFQ, CBR, WLR.

Children under 3 are not counted in your reservation count. You're only paying for the two adults and the two older children.

 

[tinkerbellybutton]

Not sure why so many think that only POR has rooms for 5. I just checked and did a test reservation check....family of 5, 2 adults, 3 children (13,8,2 yrs old) and I was offered POR, POFQ, CBR, WLR.

That's because the 2 year old doesn't count toward room occupancy. Once that child turns 3 you will no longer be able to stay at the other mods unless you book two rooms.

 

[Coconuts]

Not sure why so many think that only POR has rooms for 5. I just checked and did a test reservation check....family of 5, 2 adults, 3 children (13,8,2 yrs old) and I was offered POR, POFQ, CBR, WLR.

That is because Disney doesn't consider your 2y.o. a legitimate guest. They aren't officially on the books (considered a guest in a room, or is charged for tickets/meal plan) until they are 3. So in Disney's eyes, you only have 4 people in the room.

 

[Lynne M]

Just to clarify, if a child under three is in the room, they will be on the reservation, even if they don't count towards room occupancy or need a park ticket. Any hotel wants to know exactly how many guests are in each room. In case of emergency, the responders need to know who's in the building, and where.

 

[missyek]

I have read through all the posts here and I completely understand where everyone is coming from--especially fire codes, profits, blah, blah. But having a family of fivemyself, I understand exactly what you are saying about more options! I ALSO understand that most normal hotel rooms are for for 1 to 4 guests and that I am lucky to find a hotel that will accomodate 5 without getting a suite. But again, why can't more of ANY of the resorts offer a trundel bed option? Don't get me wrong, we LOVE POR, but I think the family would love to stay at other places as well. We will never be able to stay at a deluxe resort because they only offer suites for families with five or more and we cannot afford them (or justify paying that much for a room...). I don't want or NEED a suite--give a basic room with a trundle and we are good to go. I would understand that it would still be more to stay at a deluxe , but maybe just that slightly cheaper option of a trundle room wold actually encourage more families with five to truly consider staying there.

 

[Lynne M]

We will never be able to stay at a deluxe resort because they only offer suites for families with five or more and we cannot afford them (or justify paying that much for a room...).

Actually, most deluxes allow 5 in their least expensive, standard rooms: YC, BC, BWI, GF, Poly, CR. They're by no means cheap, but nowhere near the cost of a suite, either.

Other, more affordable, options for families of 6 are the Family Suites at ASMu, and the cabins at Fort Wilderness. And, the new Art of Animation Resort will offer family suites for parties of up to 6.

 

[AndyFL]

That is because Disney doesn't consider your 2y.o. a legitimate guest. They aren't officially on the books (considered a guest in a room, or is charged for tickets/meal plan) until they are 3. So in Disney's eyes, you only have 4 people in the room.

That made sense so I went back and changed the age of my 2 yr old to 7 and the other Mod Resorts disappeared. I was only offered POR, All Star Music, and all the Deluxe Resorts.