Why not SSR?

[tjkraz]

Wow, all this negativity towards SSR is kind of depressing. I mean it is a warehouse equivalent to a Ford or Chevy where all the others are equal to a Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, etc?

The analogy wasn't intended to imply that there is a huge disparity between the two, but it is hard to argue that resorts like BWV and BCV are preferred by the masses. (That doesn't mean that I particularly agree with that line of thinking, though. )

The point was that there are legitimate reasons that people pick one item over another that go beyond price tag. If a car simply represented a means to get from point "A" to point "B", we'd each have a $15,000 Ford Focus in our garage. But even with that option available, people still choose to spend $50,000+ on another vehicle without batting an eye.

I have no qualms about using my SSR points at other resorts if the spirit moves me. I'll keep my low dues and 12 extra years, thank you very much. Just don't say it too loud or others might start believing it's possible, too.

 

[tjkraz]

But since no one knows what will happen to the other resorts when they expire, those extra 12 years are only for SSR. Many people buy because they like that they can stay where they want - once that option is no longer there, the resale value for SSR contracts will also go way down.

Yes, it is true that after 2042 SSR owners will only be able to stay at SSR (unless another resort is built, the other resorts' contracts are extended, or a host of other possibilities.)

But I can guarantee you that SSR contracts will be worth a whole lot more than contracts at the other resorts in 2042. Let's see...ZERO time at BCV vs. twelve more years at SSR. Hmmmmm....that's a toughie.

Sounds like a lot of double-talk from an agent looking to make a buck...

 

[crisi]

Wow, all this negativity towards SSR is kind of depressing. I mean it is a warehouse equivalent to a Ford or Chevy where all the others are equal to a Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, etc? Maybe the comment made a couple months ago about DVC selling to the unwashed masses are true (at least in some of the non-SSR people). Lets just change the name to the proposed Redneck Villas!!

And what's wrong with a Ford or Chevy! And who are you calling Rednecks!

The point is, different attributes of an item, any item, have different amounts of value to different people. I could care less about leather seats in a car, my husband is willing to pay for them. Some people don't care about an Epcot location, some people are willing to pay for it. Some people would be willing to pay for the extra 12 years, for others it has no value. And the price is set by supply and demand.

 

[Tramp68]

There is already plans for another DVC on Bonnet Creek Drive. That is where the original SSR as supposed to be before they decided to close DI. When DI closed, the infrastructure was already in place so it made sense to make use of that property first. So, you can be sure that there will be other places to go in 2043.

I also forget to mention the fact that SSR and OKW have the lowest Dues per point. All of that money also adds up making the other resorts cost a lot more over the course of the years.

 

[MarylandPirate]

SSR rocks! Our family loves it, my 3 yo adored the ladies at the Community Hall. They always had something going on for the little DVC'ers. It was really fun to feel like I actually bought into something the whole family enjoys. I showed my wife the other resorts and she says she wants to STAY at SSR only. She loved the Spa, closeness to DTD, little guy loved Lego's,Rain Forest. I've been over 15 times and it was nice to finally see my wife realize why I love the place so much! So bashers...please keep bashing, it will be "our little secret" for people who appreciate SSR.

 

[DrTomorrow]

There is already plans for another DVC on Bonnet Creek Drive. That is where the original SSR as supposed to be before they decided to close DI. [...]

Are you referring to Eagle Pines? I wasn't aware that any other site had been designated for SSR....

 

[ArRzrbk]

Bonnett Creek Drive? What is that close to? Any idea on theming? This is the first I've heard - I think

Char

 

[athenna]

SSR rocks! Our family loves it, my 3 yo adored the ladies at the Community Hall. They always had something going on for the little DVC'ers. It was really fun to feel like I actually bought into something the whole family enjoys. I showed my wife the other resorts and she says she wants to STAY at SSR only. She loved the Spa, closeness to DTD, little guy loved Lego's,Rain Forest. I've been over 15 times and it was nice to finally see my wife realize why I love the place so much! So bashers...please keep bashing, it will be "our little secret" for people who appreciate SSR.

Exactly! Bash away! The less the merrier

 

[d-r]

I wonder what dues are going to be like in 40 years

 

[tjkraz]

I wonder what Rack Rates are going to be like in 40 years. Cha-ching!

 

[jaysue]

A thought came to mind

If SSR was the only DVC property available to stay, would all these people who do not like SSR actually stay offsite to get similar accomodation styles?


cheers
jaysue

 

[athenna]

A thought came to mind

If SSR was the only DVC property available to stay, would all these people who do not like SSR actually stay offsite to get similar accomodation styles?


cheers
jaysue

No, they'd all be staying at SSR because it would be the only place to stay.

 

[jaysue]

No, they'd all be staying at SSR because it would be the only place to stay.

Athenna, I tend to agree with you - the implication is that we all love staying onsite and would do that first regardless of the actual DVC resort/location etc. before staying offsite

cheers
jaysue

 

[athenna]

Athenna, I tend to agree with you - the implication is that we all love staying onsite and would do that first regardless of the actual DVC resort/location etc. before staying offsite

cheers
jaysue

You got it

 

[TammyAlphabet]

I purchased, through Disney, a contract at the BWV a month or so ago. I toured SSR in December and thought that it was beautiful. But, I also spent some time at the Boardwalk area (to dine at B&C) and thought to myself, "THIS is Disney to me...." My first choice would probably been BCV, because of stormalong bay but the combination of similar location and lower point SV options led me to BWV's. I am confident that I chose the right option for me. I may stay at SSR from time to time but I plan on staying at the BWV most of the time. Buy where you want to stay. That conventional wisdom will never become more and more important as SSR continues to bring more and more members into the fold.

I didn't really look at DVC as a investment decision. I really wanted my husband to go along with this purchase where he was sceptical. He asked me if this was a wise financial move. I froze. Having a several degrees in business, accounting and economics, I knew he would believe me if I told him it was. But, IMHO, it is a prepaid vacation plan that means slightly discounted rooms now, with a chance they will be more highly discounted once the points are paid off.

The value to me lies in knowing that I will always have another disney vacation on the horizon. DVC gives me something to look forward to. DVC is priceless to me. With this program, I don't have to convince my husband it is a good idea for me to go, I just HAVE to use these points.......

As for the extra 12 years, if it were a financial investment, then buying the longer contract makes more sense, but if it is a personal investment in yourself and your family...buy where you want and you will never regret it.

 

[DrTomorrow]

Two comments to add to this interesting discussion:

1. I believe that, the more DVC Resorts that are built (particularly on-site) the more those that buy into DVC in the future will plan on staying at multiple resorts. Think about it: when OKW (or the original DVC) was built, there were no "other resorts" to think about - if you didn't think you'd like 50 years at OKW, you didn't buy in. Even when the other Villa buildings were attached to existing resorts, there were only a few choices - so there was still a lot more significance to which "home resort" you own at. But now, with SSR being #5 on-site, those who are buying into DVC at SSR think of DVC as a complete package of resorts, with the intention to use all of them being a significant factor at the time of purchase.

2. I still respectfully maintain that some folks are viewing their DVC usage with a unfortunately short-term frame of mind. IMHO, some of the things that people mention here as reasons they favor one resort over another are likely to become less significant in 10 or 20 years (for example, I am already experiencing some "Epcot" fade, as the place is stagnating - and going downhill; I submit that in the last 10 years, WS hasn't changed at all, and FW is a shadow of it's former self). And face it, as we age, parking right in front of your room will take on added benefit .

OK, three comments....

3. SSR isn't a lesser resort, despite some folks' attempts to characterize it so (a flop? really? ). It is different from the Villa resorts; it is a move towards the original direction of DVC as shown by OKW. SSR and OKW are small town vs. big city; spread out vs. built up; laid back and relaxing vs. exciting and in the middle of it all. I love SSR - it really works for DW and I - and I can say that I'll be spending most of my Disney trips there. I'm just glad, however, that DVC does offer a range of other choices, for when I do want the ambience of salt-water taffy, boardwalk musicians, a deep pine forest or Spanish Moss....

Be well!

 

[lisareniff]

I wonder what Rack Rates are going to be like in 40 years. Cha-ching!

Hummm... will it be more or less then a night at deluxe nursing home-away-from-home???

 

[jarestel]

I wonder what dues are going to be like in 40 years

I wonder what Rack Rates are going to be like in 40 years. Cha-ching!

Those are questions I won't have to deal with, so it's like wondering what happens when the sun burns out. Someone will be affected, but it won't be me, LOL!

I don't think there's been too many critical comments about SSR on this thread. Preferring to buy points at another resort instead of SSR doesn't mean that SSR is the red-headed stepchild. I've stayed there and intend to do so again in the future, but it's not my favorite resort. That doesn't mean it's not a great place to stay, it absolutely is.

SSR owners take heart - For those of us who own at the other resorts, we've all listened for years to members who go on and on about dark rooms, long hallways, substandard furnishings, mean CMs, too far from the action, and the resort is too spread out comments. Doesn't carry a bit of weight with me, I still like what I like as I suspect most everyone else does. When the next DVC is built, we'll all pile onto those members' home resort too.

 

[jaysue]

A Richyams classic - don't forget about the educational experience of navigating the halls of BCV and BWV with compass in hand, also how it is so nice how you can get a beer out of the fridge from your balcony - LOL

Thanks for the memories Rich!

cheers
jaysue

 

[Disney4ever4569]

We also bought SSR because we liked SSR and plan on staying there. This whole think about the end of the contract in 2054 really doesn't matter now at all. It might start to matter in 20 years and people might not want to pay a lot of money anymore for a timeshare that at that point might only have 18 years left on it. You can't worry about what might happen in 20 years! Your buying it to enjoy it.