Why must people smoke on their balconies?

[quirty30]

Just arrived at BWV this afternoon; walked over to Epcot, enjoyed a nice dinner at Le Chefs de France and watched Illuminations. Walked back to my room and opted to sit out on my balcony to relax and have a glass of wine. Not 5 minutes later, someone in the balcony either below or above me comes out to have a cigarette; which promptly caused me to have an asthma attack. I can't tell where exactly the smoke is coming from and I am just SO aggravated - last month at BLT I had the same problem with smokers in the room next to me (but at least there I knew which room it was when I called to complain.) I called anyway and the CM said they would figure it out and put a stop to it.

Does anyone else think Disney hotels need to make it a little more clear to guests that non-smoking rooms include the balconies? I can't get over the fact that I've had to deal with this twice in a little over a months time.

Thanks for letting me vent : )

 

[Chic]

Research has proven that cigarettes are more addictive than heroin. These people are smoking because they "can't" stop. Numerous times, I see guests smoking in the parks completely disregarding the rules. There are designated areas for smoking in the parks but these people can't resist nicotine long enough to get to these spots. Although I get angry and frustrated to the point where I want to confront these disrespectful people, I choose to ignore them because I know they will be dead long before my time comes. If they want to cut several years off their lives, that's their personal decision in which they will have to pay the price.

 

[Lizziejane]

oh man, this topic has been beaten to death. They smoke because they're addicted, and like the previous poster mentioned, it's more addictive than heroin. And they're not allowed to smoke indoors anymore, so they smoke outdoors (even if they're not supposed to). I mean, at least they were outside having an illegal smoke, rather than inside!

I am curious - does cigarette smoke bother someone with asthma more than say, smog or exhaust from cars and trucks? Because I got to think that there is far more of that stuff in the air than the occasional cigarette.

 

[robertdangelo]

I agree... smokers can be very selfish! Interesting thought... if you add up what cigarettes cost these days... If someone smokes a pack a day... over a course of 50 years... they probably spend more than many of us spend on our contract and MF's. I'm glad I'm not a smoker & that our money is spent on DVC instead!

 

[quirty30]

oh man, this topic has been beaten to death. They smoke because they're addicted, and like the previous poster mentioned, it's more addictive than heroin. And they're not allowed to smoke indoors anymore, so they smoke outdoors (even if they're not supposed to). I mean, at least they were outside having an illegal smoke, rather than inside!

I am curious - does cigarette smoke bother someone with asthma more than say, smog or exhaust from cars and trucks? Because I got to think that there is far more of that stuff in the air than the occasional cigarette.

Well it may have been beaten to death, but this is 2 trips in a row where it has personally affected me. Oddly enough, cigarette smoke doesn't usually trigger my asthma - I have more problems with perfumes and air fresheners.

 

[jekjones1558]

The rules say that someone else's addiction is not allowed to ruin the health of others. My DH has severe reactions to smoke and scents and we too have been forced off of our balconies by those who think the rules do not apply to them. If Disney ever got serious about imposing hefty fines, these inconsiderate people would find a way to make it to one of the multiple designated smoking areas at the resorts.

 

[bicker]

Have they segregated the smoking rooms, so that they are neither above nor below non-smoking rooms?

 

[jekjones1558]

Have they segregated the smoking rooms, so that they are neither above nor below non-smoking rooms?

There are no smoking rooms on Disney property any more.

 

[LabRat]

There are no smoking rooms on Disney property any more.

I think this causes many of the problems. I am a frequent guest of Marriott properties for work. Before they eliminiated the smoking rooms, I very rarely had any issues with smoke from another room. Shortly after they did, I kept noticing the smell of smoke coming from the bathroom. After 3-4 stays, I finally figured that the guests in the adjacent rooms were smoking in the bathrooms and blowing the smoke into the exhaust of the bathroom to avoid the cleaning fees. Unfortunately, these exhausts are connected and the smoke would blow back in my room. I finally had to start leaving the bathroom light and fan on in a few of the rooms to keep it out.

 

[DVCconvert]

Quote:
Originally Posted by jekjones1558
There are no smoking rooms on Disney property any more.

Posted by LabRat:
I think this causes many of the problems.

I agree completely.

 

[oXar]

As a smoker (who's been trying to quit), I have to jump in on this. I'm sorry if someone smoking outside is bothering you, but, we've been treated like lepers and it's only getting worse. Smoking is not a crime, and if it bothers you, then move away. It has been banned from practically everywhere, even outside. I'm sorry if this isn't a popular thought, but smokers, myself included, have made countless concessions to appease the non-smokers. I do not smoke in my home or car and nowhere near my kids. We've been kicked out of every indoor facility, including bars (which still makes no sense to me), even outside we've been restricted to designated areas. I'm sorry if someone smoking, on his balcony bothers you, but you have every right to move away or go inside, just like you wanted to enjoy your glass of wine on the balcony, he/she wanted to enjoy his cigarette on his balcony. I personally try to be as considerate as possible to those around me, but non-smokers need to practice a little consideration also, if it bothers you, move away.

 

[Dean]

There are no smoking rooms on Disney property any more.

Plus smoking has been banned from the balconies, unlike many resorts that restrict smoking in the rooms. The real reason they do it is they want a bath from my Super Soaker. My wife and I were talking on our last Disney trip about where people smoke. IMO Disney has placed some of the smoking areas in poor places but I very much appreciate those that do follow the rules and smoke in the designated areas. I am also glad Disney has started to fine those that violate this rule, isn't it $250?

 

[rigsby25]

I think this thread will be closed really fast. I am an ex smoker. I agree that it is more addictive than heroin. I had to take medicine to quit. I think smokers think that outside the smoke will just disipate. Since I quit mostly for $$$ reasons, I actually love to walk by a smoker and get a little whiff of second hand smoke now and then. But smell on their clothes? No way. I can always tell when I go into the bathroom and a smoker is there, or in an elevator. And I hope I don't smell like that when I leave! Please have mercy on the smokers. Trust me, they can't go without it very long.

 

[Doingitagain]

This is one of the reasons we love the THV at SSR...a private deck, no one else very close. I am allergic to smoke, but I don't want to limit my outside time. So we found a solution that works!

 

[PammyK]

...even outside we've been restricted to designated areas. I'm sorry if someone smoking, on his balcony bothers you, but you have every right to move away or go inside, just like you wanted to enjoy your glass of wine on the balcony, he/she wanted to enjoy his cigarette on his balcony. I personally try to be as considerate as possible to those around me, but non-smokers need to practice a little consideration also, if it bothers you, move away.

Yes, but the designated smoking areas at WDW DO NOT include resort room balconies so if someone is smoking on their balcony they are the ones who need to cease their actions or move, not people like the original poster who should be able to enjoy a smoke-free experience on their resort balcony.

 

[Kris10luvsDisney]

As a smoker (who's been trying to quit), I have to jump in on this. I'm sorry if someone smoking outside is bothering you, but, we've been treated like lepers and it's only getting worse. Smoking is not a crime, and if it bothers you, then move away. It has been banned from practically everywhere, even outside. I'm sorry if this isn't a popular thought, but smokers, myself included, have made countless concessions to appease the non-smokers. I do not smoke in my home or car and nowhere near my kids. We've been kicked out of every indoor facility, including bars (which still makes no sense to me), even outside we've been restricted to designated areas. I'm sorry if someone smoking, on his balcony bothers you, but you have every right to move away or go inside, just like you wanted to enjoy your glass of wine on the balcony, he/she wanted to enjoy his cigarette on his balcony. I personally try to be as considerate as possible to those around me, but non-smokers need to practice a little consideration also, if it bothers you, move away.

Last time I checked enjoying a glass of wine didn't put anyone else's health in danger. You choosing to smoke on your balcony is subjecting all of your neighbors to second hand smoke (many of which are children!!)

 

[oXar]

Yes, but the designated smoking areas at WDW DO NOT include resort room balconies so if someone is smoking on their balcony they are the ones who need to cease their actions or move, not people like the original poster who should be able to enjoy a smoke-free experience on their resort balcony.

If indeed smoking is not allowed on the balcony, then I agree, however, that restriction seems a bit excessive, and the more restrictions that are placed on smokers, the more rule breakers you're going to have. If smoking is not allowed on balconies, than that needs to be clearly labeled with a sign on each balcony, otherwise, people won't know. I try my best to smoke where I'm allowed to, but if I don't see any signs, then I assume it's ok. The last time I was at MK was shortly after they implimented designated smoking areas, like many times before, I smoked casually (always trying to keep myself as far from others as possible) I had no idea that the rules had changed. Afterwards, I'd make sure to find the smoking area to do so, but when outside, most smokers assume it's ok unless clearly noted.

 

[toesmom]

I think a PP is confused. No smoking permitted on balconies or patios.

Only within the designated smoking areas.

Every time I've noticed someone smoking on the balcony, especially right next door, I've contacted front desk management to report it.

It's actually pointed out in the paperwork you agree to when checking in.

PS I'm a former smoker and hate the smell of smoke.

 

[Chuck S]

Smoking discussions are not allowed on the DVC boards.