Mkrop
I just cant go on demand
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That is a pretty definative answer. What is your source?
First, kudos to you for reading the entire threadKatiebell said:After reading the last 15 pages (and yes, I read every single post), as well as other threads on this same topic, the objection is that some who dislike the dining plan also express their contempt and disdain for those who would stoop to buying it -- and then there are all the little digs about "those kinds of people" who stay at value resorts, and they should go back to buying CS because they are cluttering up our TS restaurants and now everyone has to make reservations, now our lovely menus have been dumbed down for them, and they don't know the difference since they don't know what decent food is anyway, and a dinner at IHOP is a big night out to them...
Additional research on wdwinfo.com and allearsnet shows the following sit-down restaurants have prime rib on the menu:MaryKatesMom said:Funny, I had thought that the menu's had eliminated some of my favorite appetizers (salmon at the R&C) and entree's (prime rib I haven't seen anywhere).
After reading the last 15 pages (and yes, I read every single post), as well as other threads on this same topic, the objection is that some who dislike the dining plan also express their contempt and disdain for those who would stoop to buying it -- and then there are all the little digs about "those kinds of people" who stay at value resorts, and they should go back to buying CS because they are cluttering up our TS restaurants and now everyone has to make reservations, now our lovely menus have been dumbed down for them, and they don't know the difference since they don't know what decent food is anyway, and a dinner at IHOP is a big night out to them...
I didn't realize I would now be wearing a contemptuous 'one of them' label!![]()
I like Devil do not like to have to make dining plans 180 days in advance, however because of the popularity of the DDP had to do so. I figure if you can't beat them join them. My trip in Sept will be the first time I have ever used the dinning plan. I am very excited and can't wait to try different restaurants that I would never have been able to afford if not for the DDP.![]()
Maybe we could all get together and buy them in bulk. I bet we could save a lot of money that way.
Whenever we arrive at restaurants they ask us "Are you on DDP?".
I think there is obviously a difference for the CM's if you are on the DDP. We have never had the hostess ask us if we were on DDP, it has always been our server, so maybe like most things, it just depends. We always do CG on each trip and this past trip I think our server assumed we were on DDP (I really can't say for sure)-he was very brusque and just not the normal happy, conversational and animated CM we are used to there. He took our order and then asked for our DDP cards and we told him no, we were not on it, we had our DDE card though-kind of freaky cause almost instantaneously he was all smiles and joking with us and everything was good in the world again. This was not the first time we had that experience. Same thing at Narcoossee's, Jiko, AP and LC. By the end of our last trip we pretty much felt like celebrities with the CM's for not using DDP-quite a change from when we did. I would love to hear a CM's take on the whole set up.
does anyone know why?
we too, at every meal, this past week were asked if we were on the DDP?
why do they need to know before you even sit down?
bothered me a bit, but not enough to mess with the Magic![]()
Michelle in NY
does anyone know why?
we too, at every meal, this past week were asked if we were on the DDP?
why do they need to know before you even sit down?
when we say no, suddenly the mood changes a bit, perhaps it is the expectation of a gratuity?
Im thinking the CMs are unhappy because we were told by our server at Concourse Staekhouse tht they have them working 6 days and some are asked to work 7. Maybe they are burned out from the extar hours vs DDP or anything else. Just a thought!
Just seems highly unprofessional for someone who is in a position of authority in any kind of establishment to run down or bad mouth the operation to someone who they have a casual relationship with. If this was someone who you knew outside the parks or resorts and had a deeply personal relationship with it could be a reasonable expectation to say you may discuss such issues. Based on the above description of the relationship though ("friendly with them"), I find it hard to believe they are going to share all the company dirty laundry with a guest no matter often they in there. If these chefs are behaving in this manner, they are not professional by any stretch of the imagination and should be fired. The last thing any company needs is for someone of position in their organization to be discussing internal information with casual acquaintances.
By the way, re-read my post........I did not call you a liar because you may have been the recipient of some bad gossip from the source. I would bet if someone did give you such information they were probably on their way out because it would seem their loyalty is at question.
Our very close friend the architect should be fired as well is that your logic? We have seen some chefs well into the double digits and there is nothing wrong with chatting about property changes. When you have spent as many weeks in WDW as we have perhaps you will understand (when you add up our time we have spent over a year there, that is alot of time to get to know CMs).
Maybe we could all get together and buy them in bulk. I bet we could save a lot of money that way.
same here, we were there last week, we have used the DDE for a few years, and are always taken by the reaction of the CM's when we arrive at the restaurant, the first question is "are you on the DDP"? when we say no, suddenly the mood changes a bit, perhaps it is the expectation of a gratuity?
The bakery at the BW is a perfect example of this. The selection used to be huge offering several different types of donuts, cakes, cookies and yummy pasteries. We have watched the selection decrease every visit since the DDP was introduced. This is what bothers me. After talking with an employee there, we were told it was becuase of the plan that the selections were being limited. I don't know if it was because it was easier to offer what is included in the plan or what.
We don't use the DDP because we don't want to be "tied down" to anything so it doesn't work for us. I know it works for some (most) people and that's great for you. However, there is not doubt that since they introduced the plan, menus have changed. The bakery at the BW is a perfect example of this. The selection used to be huge offering several different types of donuts, cakes, cookies and yummy pasteries. We have watched the selection decrease every visit since the DDP was introduced. This is what bothers me. After talking with an employee there, we were told it was becuase of the plan that the selections were being limited. I don't know if it was because it was easier to offer what is included in the plan or what. What I do feel is why should my selection be limited because I don't think that the dining plan works for my family? Though it may seem insignificant to some, the Disney experience to others might have been that special "treat" that they were once able to get but now can't. I don't think many people go to Disney to listen to the bands (or insert your special "thing" here) but if they were to remove them, and leave only the most popular sights and sounds, it would go from being the "Disney experience" to the "Disney routine". Just my opinion!![]()
First, kudos to you for reading the entire threadInteresting inference you get that feeling too, huh? That the perceived classlessness of the DDP Guests is the primary (or only) cause of the menu changes?
Additional research on wdwinfo.com and allearsnet shows the following sit-down restaurants have prime rib on the menu:
Boatwrights as of 5/07
Concourse as of 3/07
Grand Floridian Café as of 4/07
Kona Café as of 3/07
Le Cellier as of 5/07
Olivias as of 3/07
Wolfgang Puck Grand Café (upstairs) as of 5/07
and likely:
Shulas as of 8/06
Yachtsman Steakhouse as of 11/06
and possibly:
Shutters as of 11/06
Because if you're on the plan the server needs to know so she can tell you exactly what's included and what isnt.
When I call to make ADRs they always ask if I'm on the plan. Since we dropped the DDP this time, and kept a few ADRs we had when we were on the plan, I called and asked if I should cancel & rebook. Was told no, but to give her my confirmation #s so she'd "move me".
It was a little strange. Where did she move me to ??![]()
The DDP includes 18% gratuity. With the new rule of automatically adding the 18% to DDE users and removing it from the DDP, I bet we'll see a lot of comments like this "We get better service on the DDP because they have to earn their tips!".![]()
Oh. I wasn't aware there were 'conditions'. I thought providing the locations where prime rib IS available would be enough.With the exeption of Le Cellier (where it is not the priciest item on the menu) none of the restaurants are located in the parks. It used to be on the R&C's menu and was the most expensive.
Unless I'm staying at that resort, I don't travel to resorts for a TS meal and I don't do DD either.
Perhaps the majority of DDP users go to TS restaurants inside the parks thereby concentrating the effect. Only Disney knows.