Who would you be more mad at...

[DVC Sadie]

Both, equally.

If the sleeper has a medical issue then they should have stayed home to take care of the issue, if not, then they should stay awake while working.

The person who took the picture should not have shown the photo to the president of the company unless it is a family owned business and all of the employees are family members.

 

[Disney Doll]

If the sleeper is a good employee and this is an unusual occurrence based on extenuating circumstances (ie-ill, up all night with a sick child), then I think the picture-taker is more of an idiot, and if I were the boss, believe me when I say I wouldn't forget that type of callous unprofessional behavior.

However, if the sleeper is always sleeping and getting away with it, and it has been reported to management to no avail, then I could understand the picture taker's frustration and perhaps desire to have some "proof".

 

[Serena]

Falling asleep is an uncontrollable reaction, when you do not intend on falling asleep. Taking pictures, passing them around and showing the boss is very intentional and harmful. As the boss, yeah, I'd be upset with the person that fell asleep. But also as the boss, I'd be looking at the picture taker a lot more closely. I wouldn't trust him. I'd be questioning his motives and his maturity.

 

[wvjules]

I would be angry with the person (I use that word lightly) that took the picture. You don't know the other person. There may be a health issue like sleep apnea or something else. I use to work with a guy that would take a power nap at his desk for 15 mins. at lunch every day.

I would be more mad at the picture taker. The one who fell asleep may have stuff going on at home or health issues.

The photographer, of course. Maybe the sleeper had a good reason for being so sleepy. The photographer was rude and immature.

I'd be more angry with the picture taker. For whatever reason, the sleeping employee had an involuntary response to a physical issue (he/she fell asleep). Are we going to start taking pictures of people sneezing and running around showing those off, too? The picture taker, OTOH, was behaving immaturely and unprofessionally.

While the sleeper couldn't control his/her immediate reaction to body stimulous, the photographer obviously could have (and should have) controlled his/her behavior. Especially in an office setting.

I'm not going to weigh in on why the sleeper was sleeping because I don't have enough information. If this is about behavior then IMO the intentional behavior carries more responsibility for consequences than the unintentional.

I'm going to have to agree with Carly above. There's no reason to take a photo of someone who's sleeping and show it around to everyone other than stupidity or just plain ol' rottenness (trying to get sleeper fired to get his/her job?). Who knows what kind of home or health situation he/she might have?

And regarding the comment that the sleeper should just stay home; obviously that's not always going to be an option. I know I couldn't afford to stay home just because I was tired, I need my paycheck! And if I was sneaking in a nap on my 15 minute break and someone thought it was funny to snap a photo and show it around, you BET I'd be

It's really hard to say how I'd feel about that situation, not knowing more details.

Seriously? There is a time and a place for sleeping and work isn't it; home/family issues or not.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the employee DOESN"T have apnea, narcolepsy, etc and was just simply sleeping at work.

I've been tired plenty of times at work but I'm not paid to sleep. And I can control it (except when I go to bed. 30 seconds and I'm out like a light.)

 

[WDWorBUST]

It depends on "when" and "where" the sleeper was sleeping. When I was pregnant with DD I was so absolutely EXHAUSTED during the first trimester that I would take a yoga mat into our file room and lock the door and take a nap on my lunch hour. I set my cell phone alarm so I'd be sure to wake up in time. If I had lived close enough to run home for a nap I would have - but home is over a half hour away. I was napping on MY time not work time and I was napping in a location where no one else needed to be typically (and those that did knew what I was doing). If the sleeping person was on their own time they should have chosen a more discreet place to do it.

The picture taker was behaving very immaturely in my opinion. If it was a problem then sure go to a supervisor but taking and passing a pic around is just tacky!

 

[princess momma]

I guess it depends......is the picture taker 10?

 

[Eeyore'sthebest]

If the sleeper is a good employee and this is an unusual occurrence based on extenuating circumstances (ie-ill, up all night with a sick child), then I think the picture-taker is more of an idiot, and if I were the boss, believe me when I say I wouldn't forget that type of callous unprofessional behavior.

However, if the sleeper is always sleeping and getting away with it, and it has been reported to management to no avail, then I could understand the picture taker's frustration and perhaps desire to have some "proof".

I agree with Disney Doll. Heck, I had a co-worker that used to shoot down to the medical office every day and ask to lay down in one of the exam rooms. She would set the alarm on her watch for 30 minutes. Everyone knew she did it but it was her lunch hour so no one said anything.

I feel asleep once at my desk by just resting my head in my hands. Apparently I started to snore because one of my co-workers screamed out my name and came running over before anyone else could hear me. I was having problems at home with my stepkids and wasn't sleeping. Sometimes it happens. I thanked my co-worker profusely and that was the end of it.

 

[luvmy3]

And regarding the comment that the sleeper should just stay home; obviously that's not always going to be an option. I know I couldn't afford to stay home just because I was tired, I need my paycheck! And if I was sneaking in a nap on my 15 minute break and someone thought it was funny to snap a photo and show it around, you BET I'd be

It's really hard to say how I'd feel about that situation, not knowing more details.

Being tired is not the same as having issues that make it so you can't control when you need to sleep. I know plenty of people who go to work tired and make it through their whole day without napping. If you (general you) can't control your temptation, or your body can't physically stay awake so that you can perform your job, you need to stay home whether you can afford it or not. That is assuming that your boss isn't aware of the problem or your office doesn't have some sort of nap policy. In this case I assumed that there is no nap policy since it seems to be a concern that the President of the Co. was shown the pic. Like you said though, its hard to say who I would be mad at more, since we don't know all the details.

 

[Cantw8]

Hey Cantw8, when are you going to tell us which employee you are?

I'm neither, just an innocent bystander in this mess. OK, here's how I see it. First of all, this is a biotech company...not alot of couches around here for napping and it would certainly not be encouraged if there were. The sleeper, to the best of my knowledge has never done this before or at least ever been caught He is a maintanence mechanic and fell asleep at his work bench in the "shop". The "photographer" is the sleepers co-worker, not a mechanic but part of the same group. He honestly (according to him) thought it was hysterical to take the sleeper's picture and never dreamed it would get the sleeper in trouble...which it did, ALOT I think the photographer is a jerk

 

[bubie2.5]

I would be angry at the sleeper. If he was that tired he should've been at home.

 

[LoraJ]

I'd be mad at the photographer. At work we switch shifts a lot. One week I am 9am - 5pm, the next 5:30pm - 12:30am. When i work the day shift, I have a very hard time getting to sleep at a decent hour. So I am usually fine in the morning, but around 3p - 4p I am falling asleep. So it is silly to say that because someone is tired they should stay home. If that were the case, I would never work. I have fallen asleep a few times. This happens when we are watching down a show to take some time out, and the lights in the room are dim, and the pace is slow and then zzzzzzz. I'm only out of it for a minute though. But it's embarrassing if I am working with someone. . It doesn't make me a horrible person, it's just my bodies natural response.

If I am feeling sleepy like that, I try and get up and walk around to re-energize, but that's not always possible. I think one time when I was an assistant and I was working with a client and a producer, we all fell asleep during this one movie. It was pretty funny actually. I think it has happened to almost every editor at work.

 

[littleteapot]

If it wasn't habitual, then I think the photographer is a big jerk!

When I was 8 months pregnant, I'd go lay down in an empty office for 30 minutes or so every day. My boss knew where I was, how hard I worked and how huge my feet were getting. I never worked a strict 40 hour week, so he never felt like I was cheating the company.

When I first starting working my supervisor taught me how to sleep at my desk. Sit with my back to the doorway, hold pencil in one hand and prop my head up with my other hand. I don't think he was serious and I didn't do it. I did nod off a few times when reading extra dry technical manuals, but when my head dipped I ran to the coffee machine and woke myself up.

 

[snapppyd]

Well I need to see the picture before I decide. Can you post it?

 

[Hercules10]

I'm neither, just an innocent bystander in this mess.

Ain't buying it. Someone caught ya in your pink fuzzy bunny slippers again didn't they?


Just like at a bachelor party, whoever took the incriminating pics.......gets shot.

 

[sbell111]

I'm neither, just an innocent bystander in this mess. OK, here's how I see it. First of all, this is a biotech company...not alot of couches around here for napping and it would certainly not be encouraged if there were. The sleeper, to the best of my knowledge has never done this before or at least ever been caught He is a maintanence mechanic and fell asleep at his work bench in the "shop". The "photographer" is the sleepers co-worker, not a mechanic but part of the same group. He honestly (according to him) thought it was hysterical to take the sleeper's picture and never dreamed it would get the sleeper in trouble...which it did, ALOT I think the photographer is a jerk

Sure, the photographer is a jerk. (Luckily for me), most company policies don't cover jerkiness. They do have policies that directly or indirectly cover sleeping (while not on break). Therefore, as a manager, I would deal harshly with the sleeper, while the photog would merely live on my poop list.

 

[MushyMushy]

How could the photographer not realize he might be getting his coworker in trouble? Geez!

Yeah, I think he's more of a jerk. Personally, I have never understood how people can sleep at work or in school. There's no way I could do it.

 

[bumbershoot]

Mainly the photographer.

In the past I would have been annoyed at the sleeper, but then having gone through what we did with hubby, I feel for the sleeper (and hope that they look into whatever made them fall asleep). A couple years ago, hubby was falling asleep ALL the time. He'd sit at his desk and fall asleep. He'd come home, sit down on the couch, fall asleep. He stopped telling me, but I know he fell asleep while driving more than a few times (terrifying).

Because of some emotional issues in his background, he didn't think it was a problem, he just felt it was b/c he was weak, he was too heavy, he was etc etc etc...

We finally noticed that it happened the absolute worst after he ate/drank something with high fructose corn syrup in it. Give him a natural soda with cane sugar and he was basically fine. Give him a Coke, he was asleep (figured that one out while driving). Hershey bar = OK, another sort of candy bar with HFCS = passed out.

Since he had a 25 cent vending machine at that job, it turned out he was having many items from it during the day...he would get tired, have a coke, get more tired, have a candy bar, etc etc. He didn't tell me that whole truth for quite a long while, sigh.

Well last September after switching jobs, where there was no more 25 cent machine, he was doing better, but then got drastically sick over a weekend. Finally went in to an urgent care, and from that was diagnosed with diabetes.

It was scary, but he made huge changes in his eating habits, and he now easily controls his blood sugar in the 90s range (diagnosing measurement was almost 500). But when he does have an extra bit of treat, I can tell because he falls to sleep (hfcs or no hfcs). Too much pasta? Falls asleep. For him it's a huge health issue, and back then he just wasn't aware that it was a *problem*, he just thought he was weak and could control it (but he couldn't).

So this could be a case like that, and I hope that after the trouble is over, the person looks into their health to figure out if it's a big problem. I know my husband would have been so so mortified that it would have set him back even further, and it would have taken THAT much longer to get on track, from the humiliation. I wouldn't wish that feeling on anyone.

 

[tasha99]

There's not enough info to be mad at anyone. What kind of a job is it? There are hurry up and wait jobs (IT, for example) where you have to be there in case something crashes.

The picture taker is kind of a jerk, though. It's one thing to take a picture and another to show it to the boss. The only way I could see someone doing this is if the sleeper is a chronic shammer who has been told several times to shape up.

 

[Erin1700]

As for the photographer....he is a tattletale!! haha this just seems like a funny thread considering our tattletale threads today.

 

[kingcrab]

Both are pretty bad,

-one is a person who is sleeping on company time, Im not going to get into the whole medical issue/personal problems debate that some have theorized about since it wasnt brought up by the op, I am going to presume the sleeping person is either lazy, or a slacker, or a combination of the the two.

- the other is a trouble maker who appears to like to tell on other coworkers to maybe make themselves look bettter to the bosses.

neither would be welcome at my place of work.