Who said Harry Potter was a passing fad?

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However we will NOT be sacrificing any of our WDW time in order to visit US for HP. We will be extending our stay at WDW (onsite) by 1 day and driving over to US to visit the HP part of US. So count us in as one of the second type of people you mentioned.

That's us too. I have no interest in the rest of US, just the HP area. I can do that in a day. We'll be back at Disney by supper. Sure, I wish there was a HP land going in at DHS. But, I understand not spending the money when you have your own things you could develop.

I'm sure lots of people will initially be drawn to try something new. There will be HP fans who make a special trip to do this. But 10 years from now? Eh. I don't see it having a huge impact on attendance long-term, though I think the HP books will continue to be popular.
 
My DW and I are HUGE HP fans. Getting the chance to immerse ourselves in the HP Universe is very exciting.

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That's exactly why it won't be a long term draw.
It's not "immerseing" into the harry potter world.
It's 1 section of 1 park.
And in the end you'll still eat at a normal resturant and go back to your normal room.
The fasination will wear off.
 
I just saw this on Screamscape a few minutes ago, found it interesting:

2012 to 2015 - Fantasyland Update - Rumor - (7/21/09) A Screamscape reader decided to take those Fantasyland layout plans and overlay them on top of an aerial photo of the park to show off just how everything is going to be set up and revised. However this got me to thinking today... just when was the last time anyone had ever managed to find and copy any Disney blueprints or layout plans over to the web? The only other time I can think of was when someone managed to get a shot of an Expedition Everest model and sent it to me long before they had begun construction. But that was quick and dirty reporting... whip out a camera, take the picture quick and run off with a semi-blurry photo. This on the other hand is a clear clear scan of Disney’s plans for Fantasyland... or is it?
According to an anonymous tip I received today they claim that these elaborate plans were leaked out to the internet on purpose by Disney. These represent one particular blue-sky vision they have for remodeling Fantasyland, but I’ve been told that the reality of the project will more than likely be far less grand in scope than what we see here. So you’ve got to be wondering why would Disney leak the big “blue sky” plans if they reality may not live up to it? Three Words... Harry Friggin’ Potter.
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere lately, my sources have been telling me that Disney is quickly preparing a large number of new projects, including possible major new attractions for each park. Upon any new announcements about the Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Islands of Adventure, Disney plans on releasing their own press releases about major new attractions they have in development. Given that they can announce things about four different theme parks plus all the other aspects of the WDW Resort, you can understand why they think they can possibly attempt drown-out the buzz over Universal’s Potter project. Why go through all the trouble? To put it bluntly... Potter scares Disney. This is why Disney tried like crazy to win over the rights to the PotterVerse themselves, but failed in the end. The Fantasyland project is a perfect example of why... while it may appeal to all the girls who are flocking to the Bibbi-Boutique, one simply has to look at the sheer number of princess and fairy meet & greet areas and wonder, ‘So what are the boys going to be doing?” I’ll tell you what... the boys and a good number of girls as well (as well as many adults) are going to be making their plans to visit Islands of Adventure and the Wizarding World.


http://www.screamscape.com/html/wdw_-_magic_kingdom.htm
 
That's exactly why it won't be a long term draw.
It's not "immerseing" into the harry potter world.
It's 1 section of 1 park.
And in the end you'll still eat at a normal resturant and go back to your normal room.
The fasination will wear off.

You may want to scroll down to the WWHP section in this link, it's quite a bit more than you're letting on.

http://www.screamscape.com/html/islands_of_adventure.htm
 

You may want to scroll down to the WWHP section in this link, it's quite a bit more than you're letting on.

http://www.screamscape.com/html/islands_of_adventure.htm


So renaming Dueling Dragons to Dragon's Challenge is part of it?
Not very thrilling.

"nearby Flying Unicorn is still said to be renamed Flying Hippogriff"
:lmao: wow..they are full of new ideas!

Doesn't say much of what they will have...bunch of guesses but other than a Harry Potter ride, (and who wouldn't expect a ride) they don't seem to say much.
 
I just saw this on Screamscape a few minutes ago, found it interesting:

2012 to 2015 - Fantasyland Update - Rumor - (7/21/09) A Screamscape reader decided to take those Fantasyland layout plans and overlay them on top of an aerial photo of the park to show off just how everything is going to be set up and revised. However this got me to thinking today... just when was the last time anyone had ever managed to find and copy any Disney blueprints or layout plans over to the web? The only other time I can think of was when someone managed to get a shot of an Expedition Everest model and sent it to me long before they had begun construction. But that was quick and dirty reporting... whip out a camera, take the picture quick and run off with a semi-blurry photo. This on the other hand is a clear clear scan of Disney’s plans for Fantasyland... or is it?
According to an anonymous tip I received today they claim that these elaborate plans were leaked out to the internet on purpose by Disney. These represent one particular blue-sky vision they have for remodeling Fantasyland, but I’ve been told that the reality of the project will more than likely be far less grand in scope than what we see here. So you’ve got to be wondering why would Disney leak the big “blue sky” plans if they reality may not live up to it? Three Words... Harry Friggin’ Potter.
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere lately, my sources have been telling me that Disney is quickly preparing a large number of new projects, including possible major new attractions for each park. Upon any new announcements about the Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Islands of Adventure, Disney plans on releasing their own press releases about major new attractions they have in development. Given that they can announce things about four different theme parks plus all the other aspects of the WDW Resort, you can understand why they think they can possibly attempt drown-out the buzz over Universal’s Potter project. Why go through all the trouble? To put it bluntly... Potter scares Disney. This is why Disney tried like crazy to win over the rights to the PotterVerse themselves, but failed in the end. The Fantasyland project is a perfect example of why... while it may appeal to all the girls who are flocking to the Bibbi-Boutique, one simply has to look at the sheer number of princess and fairy meet & greet areas and wonder, ‘So what are the boys going to be doing?” I’ll tell you what... the boys and a good number of girls as well (as well as many adults) are going to be making their plans to visit Islands of Adventure and the Wizarding World.


http://www.screamscape.com/html/wdw_-_magic_kingdom.htm


I think you take what's written on the internet too much as fact than one person's opinion.

This whole story contains not one fact but all someone's speculation.

My sources say, this person is making things up.

My sources say history has proven Disney is constantly planning and putting out new projects.
So it's not exactly predicting the future by saying Disney has plans for the future.
 
So renaming Dueling Dragons to Dragon's Challenge is part of it?
Not very thrilling.

"nearby Flying Unicorn is still said to be renamed Flying Hippogriff"
:lmao: wow..they are full of new ideas!

Doesn't say much of what they will have...bunch of guesses but other than a Harry Potter ride, (and who wouldn't expect a ride) they don't seem to say much.

That's why I'm sure we'll be able to do this in a 1/2 day and be back in the evening to catch the Fireworks at MK. We'll ride a few of the HP-themed rides, have our picture taken in front of "Hogwart's," geek out with some robes, wands, scarves, and be on our way. I'm not sure what else people are expecting to do there that would keep them for an entire day (or more!)
 
So renaming Dueling Dragons to Dragon's Challenge is part of it?
Not very thrilling.

"nearby Flying Unicorn is still said to be renamed Flying Hippogriff"
:lmao: wow..they are full of new ideas!

Doesn't say much of what they will have...bunch of guesses but other than a Harry Potter ride, (and who wouldn't expect a ride) they don't seem to say much.

That would be because they are purposefully attempting to keep a lid on the specifics. As I said, there is much more to it than you seem to want to admit (or maybe you didn't know). I think it's great, because as soon as Disney sees how much it affects their attendance, they will respond with something themselves, and we will all "win" by having more choices for our entertainment.
 
I think you take what's written on the internet too much as fact than one person's opinion.

This whole story contains not one fact but all someone's speculation.

My sources say, this person is making things up.

My sources say history has proven Disney is constantly planning and putting out new projects.
So it's not exactly predicting the future by saying Disney has plans for the future.

I think you assume too much, but I can tell you the guy is right far more often than he is wrong, and there's no reason at all to think he's making anything up. He always prefaces what he can't verify with the term "rumor" for a reason.

But hey, apparently you'd rather Disney not have any competition that forces them to stay on their toes. I don't feel the same, I prefer to have as many people competing for my hard-earned dollar as possible.
 
I think you take what's written on the internet too much as fact than one person's opinion.

This whole story contains not one fact but all someone's speculation.

Yeah, I have to agree. Lance is making a pretty big leap in his assumptions there..all based upon one anonymous email. I've had more than one person tell me that WDW's Fantasyland plan is legit AND has been approved. But I'm not booking my airfare for October '11 quite yet. ;)

The line from Screamscape that really made me roll my eyes was the comment about Disney "...quickly preparing a large number of new projects." Ummm, they've known about HP for about 2 years now. :rolleyes1

I think you assume too much, but I can tell you the guy is right far more often than he is wrong, and there's no reason at all to think he's making anything up. He always prefaces what he can't verify with the term "rumor" for a reason.

You need to factor in the quality of the source, though. When reporting news based upon press releases, legal documents in the public domain or first-hand accounts, you're going to bat a pretty high percentage.

The success rate when writing three paragraphs of opinion based upon info from one anonymous source is quite a bit lower.
 
. I've had more than one person tell me that WDW's Fantasyland plan is legit AND has been approved. But I'm not booking my airfare for October '11 quite yet. ;)


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Well I'm not convinced that is real, I'll wait for the official announcement to believe it.
BUT!!!!!
I hope what you say is right, we're planning on visiting end of Sept 2011. My girl would love it the FL.
 
Yeah, I have to agree. Lance is making a pretty big leap in his assumptions there..all based upon one anonymous email. I've had more than one person tell me that WDW's Fantasyland plan is legit AND has been approved. But I'm not booking my airfare for October '11 quite yet. ;)

The line from Screamscape that really made me roll my eyes was the comment about Disney "...quickly preparing a large number of new projects." Ummm, they've known about HP for about 2 years now. :rolleyes1



You need to factor in the quality of the source, though. When reporting news based upon press releases, legal documents in the public domain or first-hand accounts, you're going to bat a pretty high percentage.

The success rate when writing three paragraphs of opinion based upon info from one anonymous source is quite a bit lower.

Many things "approved" have been shelved in the past for various reasons, but I think you absolutely will see a major renovation in Fantasyland by 2012 at the latest - and it will in large part be in response to WWHP. That's why I don't get it when people seem not to want Disney to have any serious competition. Even the most die-hard Disney enthusiast should welcome it, the more pressure it puts on Disney, the more you'll come out better in the end.

And make no mistake, it will cost Disney. They made a mistake by shelving/postponing any new, big-ticket attractions for the next 2 years. Wha happened to Beastly Kingdom/ Night Kingdom? Why did they shelve the plans for a Monster's Inc. coaster (which would be totally sweet)? From what I've read, they even scaled back the renovation to Space Mountain in the hopes of having it up for the holiday season. That is being short-sighted, and I believe it will absolutely cost them in the long run.
 
Many things "approved" have been shelved in the past for various reasons, but I think you absolutely will see a major renovation in Fantasyland by 2012 at the latest - and it will in large part be in response to WWHP. That's why I don't get it when people seem not to want Disney to have any serious competition. Even the most die-hard Disney enthusiast should welcome it, the more pressure it puts on Disney, the more you'll come out better in the end.

And make no mistake, it will cost Disney. They made a mistake by shelving/postponing any new, big-ticket attractions for the next 2 years. Wha happened to Beastly Kingdom/ Night Kingdom? Why did they shelve the plans for a Monster's Inc. coaster (which would be totally sweet)? From what I've read, they even scaled back the renovation to Space Mountain in the hopes of having it up for the holiday season. That is being short-sighted, and I believe it will absolutely cost them in the long run.

The comments that began this thread questioned whether HP is a "fad" or not based upon opening weekend box office numbers. Not exactly rock solid evidence to support the franchise's viability in 5, 10 or 20 years.

I have no problems with competition. Disney has a long history of upgrading its parks to continue to draw new business. I'm not sure I buy the "Disney will do ____ to combat Universal's ___" line of thinking. Seems a bit chicken-and-egg to me. Looking back at the history of WDW there aren't may correlations between their construction schedules and the competition (with the most noteworthy exception being MGM/DHS as a challenge to US.) US has opened several high-profile, and well-received, attractions in recent years including Spider-Man, Mummy and Simpsons. If any of those attractions made a dent in Disney attendance, I must have missed that news.

Disney had a shot at HP and they declined. (I'm sure there are other stories out there but I sincerely doubt that they were knowingly out-bid by Universal, nor that Rowling willingly chose US' landlocked park over the virtual blank tableau of WDW.) And in doing so Disney knew there would be some repercussions. How deep those repercussions go will remain unknown for some time to come. Disney may see attendance losses in some areas but they may also gain business via those who come to town for HP and visit the Disney parks as well.

Sure a lot of people will visit IOA to get a look at the new attractions. Do you really believe IOA would attract FEWER guests if Disney had Star Tours 2, this Fantasyland refurb and Space Mountain on-board audio in place by summer 2010?

And whether IOA can sustain those attendance gains long enough to make the deal worthwhile remains to be seen. If Rowling refuses to churn-out any additional HP content, or to allow others to do it, a decade from now WWHP may generate as much excitement as US' tired old ET attraction.

Disney has had 2 years now to "respond" to HP at IOA. I'm not sure why we should believe that they are suddenly scared of this development rather than just viewing these design ideas as the natural progression of Disney's own parks.
 
The comments that began this thread questioned whether HP is a "fad" or not based upon opening weekend box office numbers. Not exactly rock solid evidence to support the franchise's viability in 5, 10 or 20 years.

I have no problems with competition. Disney has a long history of upgrading its parks to continue to draw new business. I'm not sure I buy the "Disney will do ____ to combat Universal's ___" line of thinking. Seems a bit chicken-and-egg to me. Looking back at the history of WDW there aren't may correlations between their construction schedules and the competition (with the most noteworthy exception being MGM/DHS as a challenge to US.) US has opened several high-profile, and well-received, attractions in recent years including Spider-Man, Mummy and Simpsons. If any of those attractions made a dent in Disney attendance, I must have missed that news.

You may have missed the news, but Disney didn't. Why do you think they built EE, TSM, etc.? That's the point, in the past they have not elected to sit back and ride on their reputation. It seems that they've decided to do just that for the time being.

Disney had a shot at HP and they declined. (I'm sure there are other stories out there but I sincerely doubt that they were knowingly out-bid by Universal, nor that Rowling willingly chose US' landlocked park over the virtual blank tableau of WDW.) And in doing so Disney knew there would be some repercussions. How deep those repercussions go will remain unknown for some time to come. Disney may see attendance losses in some areas but they may also gain business via those who come to town for HP and visit the Disney parks as well.

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Disney didn't "decline".

Sure a lot of people will visit IOA to get a look at the new attractions. Do you really believe IOA would attract FEWER guests if Disney had Star Tours 2, this Fantasyland refurb and Space Mountain on-board audio in place by summer 2010?

And whether IOA can sustain those attendance gains long enough to make the deal worthwhile remains to be seen. If Rowling refuses to churn-out any additional HP content, or to allow others to do it, a decade from now WWHP may generate as much excitement as US' tired old ET attraction.

None of them are going to attract fewer guests, in general, based on previous years' numbers due to anything the other park does. That's why saying that IOA hasn't dented Disney's attendance isn't something you can look at attendance levels and claim, because attendance for all of the parks have been generally increasing for years. Most people aren't going to plan an entire vacation to go to US/IOA, but what they will do (and what they already do) is split their vacation. What I believe you'll see is people staying, for example, 4 days at Disney and 3 days at Universal rather than a 5/2 split that they may do now.

BTW, comparing HP to ET is hardly an apt comparison. HP is going to be much more than a single ride. Looking at the examples you gave (Spiderman, Mummy, etc. - considered the most technologically advanced rides in the world at the time they were built), I'd say Universal has a pretty good track record over the past decade of putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

Disney has had 2 years now to "respond" to HP at IOA. I'm not sure why we should believe that they are suddenly scared of this development rather than just viewing these design ideas as the natural progression of Disney's own parks.

Because they've been shelving any and all big tickets items for the past few years, and we're just now starting to get to a point where Universal will have more and more to actually release to the public with respect to WWHP. They didn't need to "respond" earlier because, quite frankly, there hasn't been a ton of press releases regarding WWHP (other than the initial one).
 
You may have missed the news, but Disney didn't. Why do you think they built EE, TSM, etc.? That's the point, in the past they have not elected to sit back and ride on their reputation. It seems that they've decided to do just that for the time being.

For the same reason they built Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Epcot and a host of other theme park attractions before US/IOA even came to town. It's a natural evolution of their product.

Disney didn't "decline".

Source?

None of them are going to attract fewer guests, in general, based on previous years' numbers due to anything the other park does. That's why saying that IOA hasn't dented Disney's attendance isn't something you can look at attendance levels and claim, because attendance for all of the parks have been generally increasing for years. Most people aren't going to plan an entire vacation to go to US/IOA, but what they will do (and what they already do) is split their vacation. What I believe you'll see is people staying, for example, 4 days at Disney and 3 days at Universal rather than a 5/2 split that they may do now.

Time will tell. The Disney parks still have far more to offer and HP-land will be a 1-2 hour distraction at IOA. Until proven otherwise, I have no reason to believe that guests will--to use your numbers--find they need to increase their US/IOA trip time from 2 days to 3 days.

As for people introduced to the Universal parks for the first time, we'll see how they respond to the experience. Our most recent visit was March '09 and it was extremely disappointing. Apathetic employees...dirty parks...closed "seasonal" attractions...broken attractions...Express lines that had us unmoving for 20 minutes...aggressive timeshare salespeople (we're not talking DVC here)...meal prices even higher than Disney.

In a time when people seem to be particularly attuned to declines in Disney quality and service, they ain't seen nothin' yet.

BTW, comparing HP to ET is hardly an apt comparison. HP is going to be much more than a single ride. Looking at the examples you gave (Spiderman, Mummy, etc. - considered the most technologically advanced rides in the world at the time they were built), I'd say Universal has a pretty good track record over the past decade of putting their money where their mouth is, so to speak.

They do have a decent track record with attractions. Don't think I ever said otherwise. (Although if I were to voice one complaint....enough with the simulators!!! There are people who can't stomach these simulator attractions...and isn't a yet another simulator supposed to be the main attraction of WWHP?)

But while the WWHP may be more extensive than the likes of ET, the question remains as to whether it will be any more relevant years down the road.

Because they've been shelving any and all big tickets items for the past few years, and we're just now starting to get to a point where Universal will have more and more to actually release to the public with respect to WWHP. They didn't need to "respond" earlier because, quite frankly, there hasn't been a ton of press releases regarding WWHP (other than the initial one).

Sorry. Don't buy it. I don't see Disney's master plan being to battle attractions with press releases.

Right or wrong, Disney dances to their own tune these days. Eisner would have gone with the knee-jerk reaction of trying to best Universal. Not current management.

While it's troubling to not see bulldozers currently on-site, Disney does have a decent track record over the last 3-4 years: TSM, Monsters, Inc., American Idol, Gran Fiesta Tour, Nemo Musical, Seas with Nemo, Everest, etc. And perhaps more importantly, the upgrades to Pirates, Haunted Mansion, IASW, Space Mountain, Hall of Presidents and Spaceship Earth. Does US have any upgrades planned for tired old ET, Terminator or Twister?
 
For the same reason they built Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Epcot and a host of other theme park attractions before US/IOA even came to town. It's a natural evolution of their product.



Source?



Time will tell. The Disney parks still have far more to offer and HP-land will be a 1-2 hour distraction at IOA. Until proven otherwise, I have no reason to believe that guests will--to use your numbers--find they need to increase their US/IOA trip time from 2 days to 3 days.

As for people introduced to the Universal parks for the first time, we'll see how they respond to the experience. Our most recent visit was March '09 and it was extremely disappointing. Apathetic employees...dirty parks...closed "seasonal" attractions...broken attractions...Express lines that had us unmoving for 20 minutes...aggressive timeshare salespeople (we're not talking DVC here)...meal prices even higher than Disney.

In a time when people seem to be particularly attuned to declines in Disney quality and service, they ain't seen nothin' yet.



They do have a decent track record with attractions. Don't think I ever said otherwise. (Although if I were to voice one complaint....enough with the simulators!!! There are people who can't stomach these simulator attractions...and isn't a yet another simulator supposed to be the main attraction of WWHP?)

But while the WWHP may be more extensive than the likes of ET, the question remains as to whether it will be any more relevant years down the road.



Sorry. Don't buy it. I don't see Disney's master plan being to battle attractions with press releases.

Right or wrong, Disney dances to their own tune these days. Eisner would have gone with the knee-jerk reaction of trying to best Universal. Not current management.

While it's troubling to not see bulldozers currently on-site, Disney does have a decent track record over the last 3-4 years: TSM, Monsters, Inc., American Idol, Gran Fiesta Tour, Nemo Musical, Seas with Nemo, Everest, etc. And perhaps more importantly, the upgrades to Pirates, Haunted Mansion, IASW, Space Mountain, Hall of Presidents and Spaceship Earth. Does US have any upgrades planned for tired old ET, Terminator or Twister?

Yes, you're right. Unlike every other major corporation on earth, Disney completely ignores its competition and dances to its own tunes. :lmao:

How about we meet up back here in 2 years and see?
 
Yes, you're right. Unlike every other major corporation on earth, Disney completely ignores its competition and dances to its own tunes. :lmao:

I said no such thing. I simply pointed out that Disney has a long track record of growing its theme parks regardless of what competition happens to be in town. You're the one who seems more interested in establishing cause-and-effect relationships between Spider-Man and TSM. :rolleyes1

How about we meet up back here in 2 years and see?

What will 2 years prove? Disney will continue to build. Universal will probably continue to build (depends a lot on how much HP actually benefits the bottom line after Rowling's share, if the park's ownership situation changes, etc.) Economy notwithstanding, Disney's attendance won't be noticeably impacted by HP while IOA will get a nice initial bump. The fact that there are still two films in the can helps immensely.

What interests me is (as the thread started out discussing) whether HP proves to be little more than a fad or if it really has legs. Will people decide they've had enough WWHP after one trip or will they like US/IOA enough to plan return visits?

Gonna take a lot more than 2 years to figure that out. But I'll probably still be here waiting. ;)
 
I said no such thing. I simply pointed out that Disney has a long track record of growing its theme parks regardless of what competition happens to be in town. You're the one who seems more interested in establishing cause-and-effect relationships between Spider-Man and TSM. :rolleyes1

I said no such thing, I simply pointed out that Disney did not sit back listening to its own tune to dance by while its competition attempted to attract more customers. There are a multitude of reasons for this, some of which include the fact that UO was developing some of the most technologically advanced attractions in existence. If you don't believe what UO was/is doing directly affects what Disney does, then you really don't understand basic economics.

What will 2 years prove? Disney will continue to build. Universal will probably continue to build (depends a lot on how much HP actually benefits the bottom line after Rowling's share, if the park's ownership situation changes, etc.) Economy notwithstanding, Disney's attendance won't be noticeably impacted by HP while IOA will get a nice initial bump. The fact that there are still two films in the can helps immensely.

Actually, there is only 1 film left, but that's beside the point. Disney's attendance will be impacted - it already is. That you refuse to acknowledge that isn't something I can help. Thus far, Disney hasn't committed to anything near what UO has. I suppose if you count the recent addition to Tomorrowland as continuing to build then you have a point - and yes, all sarcasm aside, I have no doubt Disney will continue to build. Partly in response to what their competition just up the street decides to build.

What interests me is (as the thread started out discussing) whether HP proves to be little more than a fad or if it really has legs. Will people decide they've had enough WWHP after one trip or will they like US/IOA enough to plan return visits?

Gonna take a lot more than 2 years to figure that out. But I'll probably still be here waiting. ;)

Well, without WWHP that question has already been answered. I doubt they'll lose attendance because of it.
 
I said no such thing, I simply pointed out that Disney did not sit back listening to its own tune to dance by while its competition attempted to attract more customers. There are a multitude of reasons for this, some of which include the fact that UO was developing some of the most technologically advanced attractions in existence. If you don't believe what UO was/is doing directly affects what Disney does, then you really don't understand basic economics.

Six of one, half dozen of another...

Actually, there is only 1 film left, but that's beside the point.

Actually there are two films left:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926084/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1201607/

Disney's attendance will be impacted - it already is. That you refuse to acknowledge that isn't something I can help. Thus far, Disney hasn't committed to anything near what UO has. I suppose if you count the recent addition to Tomorrowland as continuing to build then you have a point - and yes, all sarcasm aside, I have no doubt Disney will continue to build. Partly in response to what their competition just up the street decides to build.

Look, I'm not naive here and yes I understand basic economic principles. Where we appear to differ is in our opinion of what is driving the machine. Walt himself was constantly adding to Disneyland even when it was the only game in town. Disney continued to add attractions, parks and hotels in Florida long before US/IOA came to town.

Keeping attractions fresh and adding new entertainment has always been a foundation of the amusement park/theme park industry regardless of what the guy across town is doing.

As for Disney's attendance declining, in '07 to '08 comparisons the four Disney parks saw a net increase. The two Universal parks were a net decrease.

If the 2009 year end numbers reflect a decline, I suspect it has more to do with the US unemployment and foreclosure rates than it does Disney's postponing Star Tours 2.

Well, without WWHP that question has already been answered. I doubt they'll lose attendance because of it.

With the hundreds of millions IOA has invested in WWHP, I certainly hope they are viewing the commitment as a marathon and not a sprint. A small uptick in attendance for a couple of years isn't going to justify the investment. You know that--that's basic economics.
 
That's exactly why it won't be a long term draw.
It's not "immerseing" into the harry potter world.
It's 1 section of 1 park.
And in the end you'll still eat at a normal resturant and go back to your normal room.
The fasination will wear off.

There have been several threads in these forums that would dispute what you say -- here's just one:
http://www.disboards.com/showthread.php?t=2219505&highlight=harry+potter

I'm just not sure why people have to take WDW's side so much that they ignore common sense. for example, I'm no longer fascinated by Peter Pan, but I do the ride several times on each trip.

I love going to WDW, but I will also love going to WWHP.
 
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