Whispering Canyon Cafe-bad experience!!!!

I guess if it were me with a server that off, or "bad", I would ask for a manager, and a move to a different table. If the server doesn't like his particular job, or is having a bad day, then change it, suck it up, and leave your problems at the door, or don't come in. For some people Disney is a once in a while trip, so If you are going to a resturant known for it's antics, thats what you should get to some degree at the very least. Just my opinion!!
 
We went to WCC in Oct 2006 and had a great server. It was my sons bday week down there for his 13th bday. Left them know and our server announced that he was celebrating his bday. And Since he was turning 13 she had him sing a childhood song with her in front of the entire restaurant of I am a little teapot. Food was great, and so was the service. Planning on going back to eat there in Sept of this year.
 
kirbsam said:
i respectfully disagree with those who think that because the waiter gave prompt service that they deserve the 15%. at some restaurants, 50's, and wcc, some role playing is expected, and is part of the experience.
Expected? Sure. Guaranteed? Nope. Not at all. What should be absolute is the actual service. The OP and at least one other person in this thread did not get even that.
A particular server may be having an 'off' day. They may have been hired based on their experience, not their ability to perform antics. They may have been borrowed from another ("boring") location.
I still and always will believe the tip should be based on the service one receives.
 
I am surprised you left a tip. We are never expecting anything, we go into restraunts with an open mind. We have never encountered bad service anywhere at WDW. But we have many times at Disneyland, and we will pay the bill and we have no problem at all not leaving any tip. If they do not treat us decent I refuse to leave a tip. We were treated horribly at Cafe Orleans in DL back in March. They seated us, and said they were not serving some of the things listed on the menu. (Thats fine) we ordered all salads and waited 45 minutes or longer for them. Then I had to get up and hunt down another waiter for drink refills cause I couldn't find my waiter. Then that was it, he never even offered us a dessert menu. The bill came and I paid exactly what was owed and on the tip line I wrote a big fat 0. That's how we were treated so that's what he got.

Just an observation....if you leave zero for the tip, the waiter isn't likely to realize you were disappointed....instead they'll simply think you were either a foreigner who didn't understand American tipping etiquette, or more likely that you were a cheapskate. When I receive such poor service that I refuse to actually tip, I leave a quarter. This isn't much money for me to be "out"....but it should hopefully make the waiter think "what did I do to deserve only a quarter?" It shows you knew about tipping policy but by leaving something woefully inadequate most servers should know it's because you were unhappy. Or at least that's how it was always done "in my day"....not sure if the young whippersnappers :flower3: of today understand.

The other thing you REALLY should have done, was speak to management either during the meal when you were not receiving refills or any attention, or on your way out. If management isn't told there is a problem, then they can't speak with the server to try to correct/retrain on the problem. For the lack of attention on the birthday....that's certainly unfortunate and sad (by the way HAPPY BIRTHDAY), but like others have said, it's not something you can really expect unless you've made prior arrangements (and while I agree the notes on ADR and the acknowledgement at the beginning should have tipped him off) but freebies aren't to be expected. I've not done any birthday celebration in Disney, but when we go to a local restaurant to celebrate, I always talk to the waiter privately (excuse myself for the bathroom and then seek out waiter) and request that they sing for the kids' birthday (hubby would kill me if I did for his, lol). I've never been disappointed and I feel it's because I specifically asked for it. Now, I have had one time when they've come and sang, but brought no treat, and while it was a bit surprising, I realized it was MY expectation that a birthday greeting would include their smallest dessert, but afterwards I realized that no one at the table had ordered dessert, so why should they give it away. After that, I make sure we all order a dessert, and sometimes the birthday dessert will be comped, sometimes I've had them bring the ordered dessert AND whatever little thing they normally offer free for birthdays (making the child VERY happy, :rotfl: )

I think I'd be most disappointed by the fact that the particular restaurant had a reputation for silly and funny antics and others were getting it and I wasn't. It seems like that restaurant part of what you're going for is the entertainment. So I probably would have mentioned the disappointment to the manager, again so the server could be spoken with about it. No, it wouldn't have changed my experience, but it might change for the next person at his table....and you have to think of that as "if the person before me had complained, maybe my experience would have been different....so I'll pay it forward now in hopes someone else does it for me later". Not perfect, but that's life!
 

1) I am sorry to hear of the experience - or lack of an experience.
2) There is no excuse for bad service.
3) I know many of the WCC servers and most try hard to be good servers.

4) As for interaction, play, funny quips, etc, that is a different manner.
5) Although they try, sometimes it doesn't come off.
. . . there is a strong interaction between servers and guests
. . . each sort of plays off the other
. . . if one isn't lively, it reduces the total experience

NOTE: Due to the interaction of guests and servers, I have seen lunches that are more boisterous than dinners. I have seen meals get so loud it was hard for CM's to check people into the hotel due to the roar. Other times, one could hold a funeral in the lobby due to the silence. Each meal is different.
 
I was under the impression that you were supposed to order the cake at the podium when you check in so long as you only wan the small one that serves up to 6. I am under the impression that it costs $12.00. When I called to add a birthday cake for my DS, he'll be 16 so I definately want a cake, that was what I was told. I will be asking very directly at the podium (not at WCC--we've never had a good experience there BTW) when I check in otherwise I'll have to come up witha plan B.
 
I did not have a great experience. I was more than willing to pay for a cake and fully expected too. I had to ask another waiter for refills for out skillet dinner and drink refills. Also, he never even asked us how everything was or if we wanted dessert. Also on the ticket it clearly stated that it was DH birthday.
NO- I did not tip the standard 15%!

Did you order a cake?

If you said "We'd like birthday cake" you'd probably have gotten it. You may or may not have had to pay for it but it's never guaranteed to get something free.
 
I am going to WCC for our first night in WDW in Jan. Reading this review has me worried! :scared1:

Can anyone name some of the best servers there?

Hedda Lettuce was a great server, I believe her real name was Suzanne, but I can't swear to it. Very friendly, we had great service.
 
I am going to WCC for our first night in WDW in Jan. Reading this review has me worried! :scared1:

We've been to WCC many times and have always had a good time. But there are always times when things are not as good as expected and we have been the victim of that before at 50's. So the possibility of a bad experience is always there with any restaurant but I wouldn't worry about WCC going into it.

As far as bad service....I agree, leaving zero is not as effective as leaving a quarter or we have left a penny in the past. This type of tip displays your disappointment and the fact you are aware you should leave a tip. Unfortunately, we have had to do this from time to time. In our minds, the tip starts out at 15% and will go up or down depending on the service.

We were recently at a non-WDW restaurant and our main server was terrible...never showed up for drink refills...was unresponsive to taking our order...some others had to bring our food...and finally showed up to bring us our check. Now during all of this, we had flagged down another server and she saved the day. She took the initiative to get our refills, bring our food, and basically kept us from asking for the manager during the meal....she was great and understood our situation and went beyond our expectations to make our meal a good experience. When the original server brought the check, the 'good' server was walking by...along with the manager. My wife took the moment to bring all three together and politely explained why the original server was NOT getting a tip...why the second server was getting all of the tip...and why the manager should be aware of both servers actions; one very negative and one very positive. The manager comped part of the meal which was nice but was not our aim of telling them. We reward for good service and will complain about bad...we've done it at WDW and elsewhere.

Hey, as customers it is our right to do so and the restaurant's responsibility to address both positive and negative situations. It is how the management during the trying times handles these situations that will determine if we go back or not. Some restaurants 'get it'...others don't and those that don't, do not get our business again.
 
Sorry it did not live up to your expectations....:sad1:
We are going in Jan. I am hoping for a "fun" time. I already made my ADR, should I have asked for the main dining room? Should I call back? :confused: Will that help to guarantee a "fun" time?
 
Our experience has been that your best bet is to pre-order your cake. We have had a bday cake and also an anniversary cake that way, and both came off beautifully. We arranged both through ADR when first making our reservations (they transferred us to the appropriate bakery area each time) and then followed up two weeks before each event. You are charged for the cake at the time you make the order. On the dining day, I confirmed at the podium when we checked in to dine. Both times, the waiter brought the cake to us. For our anniversary, at the Grand Floridian Cafe, they even set it up like a wedding cake with our champagne on a table next to the one where we were dining and let us have a cake cutting, even though we had renewed our vows at a local church and not on Disney property. It was wonderful! Anyway, point is... it is safest to arrange exactly what you want ahead of time instead of hoping for the restaurant to provide something.
 
Expected? Sure. Guaranteed? Nope. Not at all. What should be absolute is the actual service. The OP and at least one other person in this thread did not get even that.
A particular server may be having an 'off' day. They may have been hired based on their experience, not their ability to perform antics. They may have been borrowed from another ("boring") location.
I still and always will believe the tip should be based on the service one receives.


I respectfully accept your point about the antics not being guaranteed. However, I feel that people dining at WCC have a reasonable expectation that their server will be lively and entertaining. If that is not the server's personality, there are many other WDW restaurants who need quality servers that choose not to be "entertaining."

I look at it this way: when I enter the Haunted Mansion, I expect the CM to act creepy and morbid. If I go there this fall and the CM greets me with a smile and high energy, I will be disappointed because a CM at the mansion shouldn't act that way.

I could accept the idea of a server having an off day if I had not experienced the same exact boring and miserable server during our second and third trips to WCC. (Our first trip, we had a very pleasant and slightly entertaining server and that was just enough to bring us back.)

We have finally given up on WCC as the food was very disappointing on our trip number three. I know that many others have different opinions and that is wonderful. I am glad that many people enjoy WCC the way we did on our initial visit.
 
I was under the impression that you were supposed to order the cake at the podium when you check in so long as you only wan the small one that serves up to 6. I am under the impression that it costs $12.00. When I called to add a birthday cake for my DS, he'll be 16 so I definately want a cake, that was what I was told. I will be asking very directly at the podium (not at WCC--we've never had a good experience there BTW) when I check in otherwise I'll have to come up witha plan B.

You should RECONFIRM this with Disney Dining. When I called to "schedule" DH's birthday dinner and our anniversary dinner, the CM specifically told me that I needed to ORDER the cake ahead of time and NOT to expect ANYTHING in the restaurant. The CM told me it is up to the restaurant's discretion as to whether or not they will provide a "CUPCAKE" (or something similar) for the birthday person ONLY -- also, sometimes it is just a card signed by the staff or characters. While I was on the phone, the CM offered to transfer me, so I don't have a specific phone number to give out -- also, I know that there is a thread "floating" around somewhere regarding the online link, but of course, I don't have it. Sorry about the original poster's experience -- hope this information (what there is of it) helps someone . . .
 
We haven't been to WCC since our kids were small. I do remember one time
when my youngest kept getting up and not eating her dinner and finally our
waiter took all of our cloth napkins, told her to sit in her chair and he TIED
HER TO IT. Then he said, "Open!" and she opened her mouth and he fed her
dinner. He was awesome and she was laughing so hard the food was falling
out of her mouth. Why didn't I ever think of that? Tying them to the chair...
BRILLIANT. :thumbsup2
 
The bad service is wrong. I don't blame you for being put off by that. But, as far as the cake goes, if you want a guaranteed birthday cake, you really need to buy it and furnish it yourself. Yes, sometimes Disney comes through with a free cake, but more often than not they don't. Just try to keep in mind there are probably hundreds, if not thousands, of people at Disney celebrating their birthday. If it makes you feel any better I've gone every single year for 20 years now for my birthday and have never once gotten a free cake.

I DID order a cake when making my ADR and did not receive it. I would never just assume we would get one for free!
 
I DID order a cake when making my ADR and did not receive it. I would never just assume we would get one for free!

Well, to me, that's totally different, if I'd ordered/paid for a cake and it wasn't brought out, I'd be taking the server aside to remind them. Then if there was some mix up and it hadn't been made, I'd definitely be getting my money back and expecting them to find something for dessert to make up for the missing birthday cake! Disney or not, that's something I think you do have the right to expect if you paid for something and it doesn't show up!
 
I DID order a cake when making my ADR and did not receive it. I would never just assume we would get one for free!

What did they say when you mention you paid for a birthday cake and didn't get it? Those thing run any where from $25 -$60 bucks.
 
We went to WCC last year and I have to admit we were disappointed. The food was OK, the service was OK, but we had specifically gone there for the experience and the antics and it was really difficult for my kids to have to watch kids at other tables get all kinds of special attention while our server was a complete dud. It seems to me that if they're going to promote the restaurant as being full of laughs, etc (which they definitely did do for us) then servers there should understand their role and play along. If it's not a requirement of the servers then, IMO, Disney shouldn't be promoting it as such. I don't throw this into the same category as expecting towel animals or expecting free upgrades just because some others on these boards have had them, but again it's just my opinion. I'm sure others will (respectfully ;) disagree.

We had the same experience on our last visit with our granddaughters. No antics whatsoever-I was really disappointed as we specifically ate there to show the girls a fun time. We aren't p[lanning on returning this trip and maybe never will because I get irritated every time I think about our experience. I did like the skillet, though. ;)
 
I DID order a cake when making my ADR and did not receive it. I would never just assume we would get one for free!
Oh, wow, I'm sorry. You didn't mentioned you actually bought one. If that's the case, then someone certainly owes you your money back.
 
I did not have a great experience. I was more than willing to pay for a cake and fully expected too.
Just went back to read your previous post and it doesn't sound like you prepaid for the cake. When I said you shouldn't expect a cake, I really am not trying to be unkind, I'm just trying to say that if you really want something, such as the cake, your best bet is to pay for it ahead of time, that way you won't be disappointed.
 


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