Which aspect of FP+ are you most bothered by

[JoshuaShaw]

The order in which I am most bothered:

1.) Tiering
2.) The inability to FP the same attraction multiple times
3.) The advanced planning involved

 

[Davey Jones II]

I agree with this I have been during very busy times and have never seen Living with the Land over 20 minutes, and that was during a very super busy Spring Break week. Why would I even need a Fastpass for it?

Like I said, out of touch. Why do the Disney execs and park presidents so rarely leave their executive bubble to actually visit the parks for which they are making decisions? That's their real place of business; never mind the board rooms and the spreadsheets. Go see for yourselves what is happening there; maybe even talk to guests and hear their concerns? Is that so unthinkable?

That's what made Matt Ouimet such a great president for Disneyland; he was known for actually going out into Disneyland and interacting with the guests. Horrors!

Maybe that's why they let him go? He cared too much about quality, and not enough about the almighty budget?

 

[sonofanarchy]

Other: The whole thing sucks.

 

[goofy4tink]

Ok so what you want is to be able to FP+ TSMM 3 times a day. Right?

So presumably you want this for everyone (you don't just want it for you, right?).

Say there are 30,000 guests to HS that day. And the TSMM ride handles 50,000 riders in a day in which it does not break down.

How on earth are you going to give each person 3 rides? *it is just not feasible*. Disney is not limiting you because they want to see you squirm -- they are limiting you because there is only so much capacity to go around.

It was just an example. I couldn't be bothered riding the same thing three times in one day. Well, there was that rainy afternoon at AK when I got to do EE 14 times in a row, never stopping. Of course it was a rainy Tuesday afternoon, about 90 mins before park closing. Did that just because I could.
But in all reality? Just give me more of the dang things and the ability to use them in different parks that same day. I make it work now by going to one park early, doing what I want and then heading to the park I have FP+ that afternoon. It's not ideal tho.

I'm really not sure what the answer is for those that want to ride one thing more than twice. They can do it once at park opening, and then again with their FP. But more often than that is problematical.

 

[Golf4283]

Other: The whole thing sucks.

What went so wrong on your trip when you used the system that you hate every aspect about it?

 

[Disneylover99]

I chose other because I really can't choose. I dislike all the choices equally.

But I also get frustrated when you know you have a FP reservation and your band scans blue. Sometimes the cm's ask you to step aside if they don't have extra cm's to help you figure it out. It kind of defeats the purpose of FP when you are told to wait.

 

[brockash]

Ok so what you want is to be able to FP+ TSMM 3 times a day. Right?

So presumably you want this for everyone (you don't just want it for you, right?).

Say there are 30,000 guests to HS that day. And the TSMM ride handles 50,000 riders in a day in which it does not break down.

How on earth are you going to give each person 3 rides? *it is just not feasible*. Disney is not limiting you because they want to see you squirm -- they are limiting you because there is only so much capacity to go around.

Just as the old system it'd be first come (or in this scenario with the new way Disneys doing stuff) it'd be first reserved first served. Of course not everyone in the park that day would get to ride it 3x...just as not everyone before used to get to ride it 3x with a fastpass. Whoever made it their bigger priority would...same as the old system.

 

[lovethattink]

The app is what I like least. More times than not I got the "blip in the system" error message while using it in the parks.

 

[nansmama]

We've been on three trips using FP+. The only thing I would change is being able to schedule more than one park per day (for example, two FP+ in MK and one in DHS). Otherwise, I think the limits they've set are fine.

 

[Viva Las Disney]

I really liked FP+ when I used it but tiering wasn't in place yet, so my vote was for tiering.

I'll deal with it if I have to but I really hope tiering disappears.

 

[Planogirl]

I bet that if you ask people that stay offsite normally this question the inability to pre-schedule might be higher. Hopefully that will change.

This was a hard choice but I think that the heavy pre-planning bothers me the most.

 

[Luvchefmic]

I voted the one limited to one park a day...I think eventually offsite guests will be included in the pre-planning so I believe that's a non-issue

Riding more than once fave well I think there's ways to get around that too if it is that important, doing rope drop or standby

Tiering and only 3 FP+ until they say this is the way it is forever I hold out hope something will change on that score

 

[rluey29]

We dislike several things on the list, however I chose only riding a ride once because at some parks we only fast pass one ride. To us the system as is stinks.

However I did receive an email that gave me hope that the current FP+ system will change.

 

[Davey Jones II]

I chose other because I really can't choose. I dislike all the choices equally.

But I also get frustrated when you know you have a FP reservation and your band scans blue. Sometimes the cm's ask you to step aside if they don't have extra cm's to help you figure it out. It kind of defeats the purpose of FP when you are told to wait.

Congratulations. You're the one millionth guest to find a glitch in the system!

 

[Rosanne]

I chose the planning ahead option.

I like planning where I'm staying and when we're going on our trip but beyond that I don't like planning ahead. Every minute of my workday is scheduled. It's great to get away from the phone and the schedule when I'm on vacay.

That's why we stopped doing ADR's altogether a few years ago.

 

[AmyB2006]

don't forget

"inability to reserve FP+ for anyone with ADRs due to absurdly restrictive rules"

I don't understand these statements. I have never been restricted on any FP+ due to an ADR. I could schedule my FPs right through my ADR if I wanted. Obviously I didn't but the option was there. Why are people having this issue?

 

[ParkHoppers]

Ok so what you want is to be able to FP+ TSMM 3 times a day. Right?

So presumably you want this for everyone (you don't just want it for you, right?).

Say there are 30,000 guests to HS that day. And the TSMM ride handles 50,000 riders in a day in which it does not break down.

How on earth are you going to give each person 3 rides? *it is just not feasible*. Disney is not limiting you because they want to see you squirm -- they are limiting you because there is only so much capacity to go around.

This is absolutely correct. But you know the people that don,t like the new number of FP don,t want to listen to the math which is the biggest reason for the 3 FP per. They don,t want to admit most of the reason they use to get so many passes was the lack of participation in the old system. Nope! They earned all those FP,s in the old system with their superior touring skills which was getting to the park by 9am,running to 3-4 headliner FP,hit some early short lines then circling back to get more FP. Must of had a PhD to figure that out (rolling my eyes).Sounds like you know exactly what the old system was and the potential of the the new one. Good for you adapting to the new system and not thinking Disney just tried to hurt you and your family for kicks. Disney was just thinking of the greater good with FP + and IMO they are in the process of accomplishing just that. I hope that people not happy with the new system start to think it through a bit more and why Disney did this.

 

[sonofanarchy]

What went so wrong on your trip when you used the system that you hate every aspect about it?

Sorry. I don't need to experience it first hand to tell it's a crap system, and I won't apologize for it. I've been to WDW enough times, and know enough about the place and how to tour the parks to know that the way my family tours, it will suck big time for us.

 

[brockash]

This is absolutely correct. But you know the people that don,t like the new number of FP don,t want to listen to the math which is the biggest reason for the 3 FP per. They don,t want to admit most of the reason they use to get so many passes was the lack of participation in the old system. Nope! They earned all those FP,s in the old system with their superior touring skills which was getting to the park by 9am,running to 3-4 headliner FP,hit some early short lines then circling back to get more FP. Must of had a PhD to figure that out. Sounds like you know exactly what the old system was and the potential of the the new one. Good for you adapting to the new system and not thinking Disney just tried to hurt you and your family for kicks. Disney was just thinking of the greater good with FP + and IMO they are in the process of accomplishing just that. I hope that people not happy with the new system start to think it through a bit more and why Disney did this.

You think it took a Phd to understand how to get fastpasses and how to get more than 1 for the same ride...well I must be 1 in a million then, because I don't have a Phd in anything, let alone in touring a theme park. It really is/was quite a simple process. All you had to do was to ask a CM during your first trip what a fastpass was and how to get it or read something about it.

I also think it's pretty naive to think that Disney does anything for the "greater good" or to make things as an "equal playing field" for all of their guests. The only greater good they're concerned about is money. Not to mention the fact that in all honestly, I'm willing to bet more ppl. used the old fastpass system than those who will get online to plan and to reserve their fastpasses 60 days before they even go on vacation.

 

[MrInfinity]

Not everyone will want to ride it three times a day. I know TSMM is wildly popular, but that's primarily because it is a kid-friendly ride in a park with few such offerings. Some people will be satisfied with just one ride through.

In any case, all they have to do is limit the FPs in accordance with ride capacity. Maybe two per day max for that ride, instead of one? Maybe one per day unless you reserve well in advance?

Speaking of ride capacity, why aren't they addressing that by building new rides at DHS? Why, reportedly, have the Star Wars plans for DHS been put on hold? Oh right, I forgot. Their priority was to spend $1.5 billion on a new reservation system instead

Hey I certainly agree HS needs a 2nd kid-friendly ride to offset the demand for TSMM. And I think we'll see it in 2018. You say SW is "on hold"... but given what they're doing elsewhere, I think it's in the works. MK in 2014, AK in 2016, HS will be 2018 timed with the new SW movies. Just watch. The Streets of America will be leveled and a new kid ride, thrill ride, and TS and QS restaurant (much like ETWB, SDMT, BOG) will go in. They will pick a world from the new movie and build that into the Streets area. Or, they'll go the other direction and blaze the IJ Stunt Show. But they didn't buy Lucas Arts to do nothing. Think about it. It's coming. Just in typical Disney fashion, mum's the word until the day they break ground.

Still, we'll have 4 years of HS being a mediocre park. Eh, ok. We'll still spend a day there. SWW opening day here we come!