Where is the DVC market going?

[disney dumbo]

You need a decent rated II resort, preferably a 1 BR or larger or a lockoff. Some of the points systems work well for this also. I've traded in a number of times and plan most of my future trips in this manner. I had a 1 BR in Jan at OKW, Sept at BWV and a 2 BR at SSR in Dec in 2006. But it assumes you can make do without a 2 BR and you can travel somewhat off season for most trips. As a member, you can still get most perks while staying on an exchange. Part of my stays have been with bonus weeks.

One also needs to plan a full 11-12 months or more in advance and be willing to give the process some time. It does become questionable in value when looking at the studios because you have the same exchange fee and extra $95 DVC fee when you exchange in plus your II dues and maint fees on the resorts you own.

Whoa Dean... you are rolling tonight!

Okay... Dumbo showing again... sorry!

How do you know if it is "decent rated"?

"Some of the points systems work well for this also." Care to name a few?

Thanks for continuing to educated me!

 

[Amy5000]

You need a decent rated II resort, preferably a 1 BR or larger or a lockoff. Some of the points systems work well for this also.

Dean: How do you find out what's a decent rated II resort? Also, I'm curious, what do you use to trade into Disney? I checked out the II site and saw so many resorts listed. If considered getting something to trade into Disney to supplement what will hopefully be my small DVC contract (if I make it through ROFR). But I was overwhelmed when I saw the number of II resorts out there.

Amy

 

[Dean]

Whoa Dean... you are rolling tonight!

Okay... Dumbo showing again... sorry!

How do you know if it is "decent rated"?

"Some of the points systems work well for this also." Care to name a few?

Thanks for continuing to educated me!

It's not difficult to figure out if a timeshare is rated well enough in II to trade into DVC but it does take a little work and effort. II will tell you if you ask them the right questions. You can ask other owners who do II searches. And as a ROUGH rule, MOST things 5 star will fit the bill but some that are not 5 star will also. As a rule for someone getting started along this road I would recommend you spend 6 months of active research and then buy something you can use yourself 30-50% of the time.

Any of the points systems that work with II should do OK that I am aware of. Just to name a few of the more common ones: Hyatt, Bluegreen, Sunterra, Starwood, Fairfield & Worldmark. That is a wide range of options just in that list of 6. At least BG & FF give you RCI options as well as II options. FF & BG should be relatively inexpensive. With BG you should be able to get something where you could get a DVC 1 BR yearly for 7000 points which you could get resale for less than the $3K mentioned above. My impression is FF would be a similar price. But you should investigate each you are considering well enough to know what will work best for you and what will not.

Dean: How do you find out what's a decent rated II resort? Also, I'm curious, what do you use to trade into Disney? I checked out the II site and saw so many resorts listed. If considered getting something to trade into Disney to supplement what will hopefully be my small DVC contract (if I make it through ROFR). But I was overwhelmed when I saw the number of II resorts out there.

Amy

Amy, in addition to the above info I'll say that my views on what I own over the years (DVC and otherwise) have evolved. I want good stuff, mostly at least reasonably close to DVC qualify, and I want it as cheaply as possibly. I've evolved from mostly owning to trade to owning to use and trading to supplement, for variety and for sport. The thrill of the chase so to speak. I do have high demand resorts weeks that I would only trade in a special situation (DVC, HH Marriott's), then I have a trading Marriott that is a lockoff, a single MX resort that works on points and a lot of BG points. This is very different than a few years ago. Currently I have 433 DVC points down from 885 a few years ago headed to likely 100 or less in 2-3 years. Previously I owned a different Marriott week to trade but feel that resort may be dropped from Marriott so I sold it and bought another. I owned several fixed weeks in Aruba but fees were going up and we've never been to Aruba to I converted them to BG. Over the years I've likely owned 30-40 weeks/contracts that I don't currently own. While I haven't learned much the hard way fortunately, I have moved closer and closer to the ideal situation for myself and my family.

I do searches in II daily for what DVC options show up no only with everything I own now but many of the options I no longer own still show up in my online II account. Then I play with all type of unit/resorts to see what will and will not pull the DVC units available. Will a 1 BR from a lower rated resort pull all DVC 1 BRs available? Will a studio pull a 1 BR? will a bonus week get it? do I have to use a higher demand/value week or resort to get what I want. What are my chances of getting a 2 BR? a 1 BR during a higher demand time like summer? Obviously this is not a perfect science and it relies on what's sitting in II online where ongoing searches have already picked over the inventory to the real answer is likely even better than the picture I get if I do ongoing searches. But I've assumed if I see it online consistently with a given option, my chances of getting that same thing or something similar the next few years with that option is very good. And it tells me if I can use a $200 option or need to use a $1000 options for example to get what I want.

 

[gerrym51]

I'm not sure, but I think I've seen a little lower than that. Seems to me I've seen $55-57 when DVC first started. I'm sure someone knows for sure.

my wife and i bought 230 OKW points in 1993 for $56.00 a point plus
7 years for park passes free.


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[Amy5000]

Amy, in addition to the above info I'll say that my views on what I own over the years (DVC and otherwise) have evolved. I want good stuff, mostly at least reasonably close to DVC qualify, and I want it as cheaply as possibly. I've evolved from mostly owning to trade to owning to use and trading to supplement, for variety and for sport. The thrill of the chase so to speak. I do have high demand resorts weeks that I would only trade in a special situation (DVC, HH Marriott's), then I have a trading Marriott that is a lockoff, a single MX resort that works on points and a lot of BG points. This is very different than a few years ago. Currently I have 433 DVC points down from 885 a few years ago headed to likely 100 or less in 2-3 years. Previously I owned a different Marriott week to trade but feel that resort may be dropped from Marriott so I sold it and bought another. I owned several fixed weeks in Aruba but fees were going up and we've never been to Aruba to I converted them to BG. Over the years I've likely owned 30-40 weeks/contracts that I don't currently own. While I haven't learned much the hard way fortunately, I have moved closer and closer to the ideal situation for myself and my family.

I do searches in II daily for what DVC options show up no only with everything I own now but many of the options I no longer own still show up in my online II account. Then I play with all type of unit/resorts to see what will and will not pull the DVC units available. Will a 1 BR from a lower rated resort pull all DVC 1 BRs available? Will a studio pull a 1 BR? will a bonus week get it? do I have to use a higher demand/value week or resort to get what I want. What are my chances of getting a 2 BR? a 1 BR during a higher demand time like summer? Obviously this is not a perfect science and it relies on what's sitting in II online where ongoing searches have already picked over the inventory to the real answer is likely even better than the picture I get if I do ongoing searches. But I've assumed if I see it online consistently with a given option, my chances of getting that same thing or something similar the next few years with that option is very good. And it tells me if I can use a $200 option or need to use a $1000 options for example to get what I want.

Dean: Thanks for the info. I'm going to continue to read up about other TS, but I've decided not to jump into anything too quickly. Afterall, I'm new to DVC, I should see how this works for us before deciding to buy other TSs to trade into DVC. Thanks again.

Amy

 

[joestein]

I will pretty much agree with what Dean said about trading into DVC. I am using FF points, which are very cheap, and I know that Worldmark Points work well too.

FF has generic floating weeks that you can use to look up a trade. Once you find what you want using the the most powerful floating week (red - 3 bedroom), you can search using the lesser weeks until you find the best deal.

Even if you find only the 3 bedroom pulls DVC, you can call II and ask them to change the unit you are exchanging to the same number of rooms as the DVC unit you will receive. There are a lot of ways to work the system.

I recommend checking out TUG, the timeshare user group, and then once you get an idea of what system you want to own, check out the yahoo group devoted to that timeshare company. You can find a lot of "secrets" there.

Good Luck.

Joe

 

[DVC SSR Owner]

Jim, you are correct. When OKW was in the pre- or early construction phase, they offered points at $47. After they opened , the price went to $50. I bought in 1997 at $56 a point, showing that the points slowly rose, from 1992-97. After that, things started taking off. There are some of us that even remember Disney trying to sell Vero at $50 as a promotional thing. Those days are behind us, though. Prices have NEVER gone down, and won't until we get closer to the end.

Look how wrong this post was!

 

[JimMIA]

Look how wrong this post was!

Look at the age of the thread!

You're quoting a thread almost 4 years old, talking about accurate facts from 13 years ago.

There is nothing "wrong" with the post -- but you took the whole thread completely out of context.

 

[Jaaron2]

Two Things... First I travel a ton for work and at any given time have 300,000-500,000 hilton points. We typically use them to Pay for rooms for our kids sports tournaments. We have stayed in category 7 and 8 rooms and have mostly been less than impressed. They in no way compare to the accommodations we have thru DVC ( im not saying they are all that way). Based on my own experience and travels DVC is a great value .

We just got back from a 10 day stay, we own 300 pts at BCV and 250 at AKV. our favorite resort is BCV. We are looking to add on a 50 pt contract and are trying to decide between longer term and our favorite resort . We are really struggling with this ( probably because we just stayed in a grand villa at AKV) . With BCV being so small there is a definate advantage to owing there (maybe more so than any other resort... IMHO) that will probably lead us to adding on there even tho the years of ownership are less.