When will SSR finally sell out ?

[tubtruck]

Is it nearly sold out, surley it cannot be far off?, I wonder what the price will be once it it deemed as sold?

 

[Chic]

We just added points to our ownership at Saratoga Springs and our Guide said they were almost sold out. Disney plans to make the official announcement regarding the Contemporary Villas in 6 to 8 months but it may be earlier than that when Saratoga is sold out.

 

[dvc_john]

The most recent part of SSR that was declared into DVC inventory was the first floor of building 18. That was on December 27.

 

[Goofy's apprentice]

A recent meeting with our guide indicated it may be sold out within the next 4 to 6 months

 

[lugnut33]

Many people on this board said it would be over a year before a Cont. DVC is officially announced.

 

[tjkraz]

When SSR was the only resort selling, it took about 3 months to sell a single building. If we assume that sales are roughly halved with AKV being offered simultaneously, 6 months seems like a safe estimate. That's not taking into account factors like the economy, promotions, price increases, etc.

 

[dianeschlicht]

We just added points to our ownership at Saratoga Springs and our Guide said they were almost sold out. Disney plans to make the official announcement regarding the Contemporary Villas in 6 to 8 months but it may be earlier than that when Saratoga is sold out.

Not sure where that info has come from. I would be VERY surprised if CRV was announced with AKV still being sold.

 

[tjkraz]

Not sure where that info has come from. I would be VERY surprised if CRV was announced with AKV still being sold.

I think DVC would be willing to sell both simultaneously.

AKV may be a little too...eclectic...for many timeshare buyers. SSR has sold quite well over the last year as both have been offered at the same time. I think the same could be said for AKV and CRV.

In addition, the construction permits for the Contemporary tower had an estimated completion of September '09. AKV isn't going to be sold out by then. And I suspect Disney would like to have several million points sold before the tower even opens so that they aren't paying the operating costs from Day One.

That's assuming the new building actually *IS* DVC, of course.

 

[Jimdvc]

Assuming the points to stay at CRV are about the same as the others DVC's and assuming the cost per point is the same as other DVC's, I can't imagine being able to sell SSR and AKV at the same time as CRV.

The ability to hop onto a monorail will far out weigh the idea of being close to DTD or seeing animals out your window.

 

[TisBit]

Assuming the points to stay at CRV are about the same as the others DVC's and assuming the cost per point is the same as other DVC's, I can't imagine being able to sell SSR and AKV at the same time as CRV.

The ability to hop onto a monorail will far out weigh the idea of being close to DTD or seeing animals out your window.

True, but under the theory that SSR sells out first, it seems that the idea of two different "home resort" options might help sales. Buyers can choose where they want to have their "home" and buy accordingly. Assuming the cost of MF's for CRV will be higher (monorail upkeep, etc) it could actually help AKV. When I bought in, one of my initial thoughts was SSR had lower MF's, but I could still stay at other resorts...so same theory would apply there. But that is all a little

I think you will see SSR sell out by the Fall/Winter.

 

[tjkraz]

The ability to hop onto a monorail will far out weigh the idea of being close to DTD or seeing animals out your window.

Different strokes.

I think there are a LOT of people here--particularly AKV owners--who wholeheartely disagree with that statement.

By my count Disney has at least 8 Deluxe resorts on-property. Only three of them feature the ability to "hop on the monorail." Nevertheless, every day thousands bypass the opportunity to stay at the Poly, GF or CR to instead stay at the Animal Kingdom Lodge, Wilderness Lodge, Yacht Club, and so on.

Different strokes.

 

[DISNEY FIX]

Disney plans to make the official announcement regarding the Contemporary Villas in 6 to 8 months but it may be earlier than that when Saratoga is sold out.

Where did you hear this nugget of news?

 

[Alexander]

....
By my count Disney has at least 8 Deluxe resorts on-property. Only three of them feature the ability to "hop on the monorail." Nevertheless, every day thousands bypass the opportunity to stay at the Poly, GF or CR to instead stay at the Animal Kingdom Lodge, Wilderness Lodge, Yacht Club, and so on.

Different strokes.

And you pay a hefty price to "hop" on that ol' monorail. With the exception of the YC/BC, AKL and WL are considerably less expensive. I love the theming at the Poly but refuse to pay (or more like--can't pay) the price to stay there. I totally agree with different strokes for different folks, but the "opportunity" to stay at the monorail resorts isn't available to all.

 

[tubtruck]

Assuming the points to stay at CRV are about the same as the others DVC's and assuming the cost per point is the same as other DVC's, I can't imagine being able to sell SSR and AKV at the same time as CRV.

The ability to hop onto a monorail will far out weigh the idea of being close to DTD or seeing animals out your window.

Sorry got to disagree with this one, personally I would rather stay at AKV than at CRV, if ever I do an add on and the choice was between these two I would buy at AKV even if it was more expensive than CRV. CRV does not do much for me at all.

 

[cincinmouse]

Don't know the official rules about posting info from other web sites but this info was posted today.


Saratoga Springs: The End is Near!
Written by tjkraz
Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:20AM
On December 24, 2007, Disney Vacation Development filed the Forty-Second Amendment to Declaration of Condominium for Disney's Saratoga Springs Resort. This amendment added Phases 130 - 131 (Units 130A, 130B, 131A and 131B) to the Condominium.

OK, so what does this mean to you and me?

Before Disney Vacation Development (the Disney unit which actually builds and sells the units which are then administered by the Disney Vacation Club) can begin selling ownership in a structure, they must declare that structure as part of the Condominium. In the case of Saratoga Springs, construction on the last of the 18 buildings was completed back in June 2007. Since DVD did not yet have purchase commitments for all 18 buildings, ownership remained with Disney who could make the rooms available to travel agents and their own Central Reservations booking office.

Whenever DVD makes a sale, points are drawn from the units that have already been added to the Condominium. When the supply of available points is nearly depleted, the Declaration of Condominium is amended to add additional units and replenish the points DVD has on-hand to sell.

This particular filing, the forty-second amendment to the original Declaration, represents the addition of the entire first floor of the eighteenth and final building at Saratoga Springs. DVD now has only 6 more units--three more floors--worth of points at Saratoga Springs which could be added to inventory and sold to current or new DVC members.

Dating back to June 2007, DVD has amended this Declaration a total of five times. These five amendments declared a total of 14 units, or 7 floors worth of rooms, into inventory. With only 6 units remaining to declare, it is conceivable that all of Saratoga Springs will be added to the sales inventory by April or May, 2008.

Units must be Declared before they can be sold, so sales will continue for several months following the date of the final amendment. But those considering a purchase or add-on at Saratoga Springs should take note--by all appearances, the initial offering for Saratoga Springs will end sometime in the summer of 2008. After this time, points are likely to remain available for purchase through DVD (or on the resale market), but it is unlikely that any promotional discounts or other incentives will be offered on this particular resort.


I am sorry ahead of time if this is not okay to do

 

[wildernessDad]

The ability to hop onto a monorail will far out weigh the idea of being close to DTD or seeing animals out your window.

Personally, I like to hop onto the boat from WL that takes me to the MK.

 

[drusba]

Assuming the points to stay at CRV are about the same as the others DVC's and assuming the cost per point is the same as other DVC's, I can't imagine being able to sell SSR and AKV at the same time as CRV.

This seems to be everyone's favorite quote post. However, unlike above, it is the assumption I would take issue with. SSR has a point structure higher than OKW though neither is located near a park. SSR is generally less than the park DVC's. Animal Kingdom brought a whole new direction of how DVC does points. For most of its rooms (savanna view which will be 80% of all rooms) and except for January when it is the same, its point cost is higher than BCV, BWV and VWL It thus is not located at a park but received the highest point structure yet for 80% of its rooms. It does have animals and a uniqueness.

CRV, if it ever comes into being, is, by my best quesstimate, going to be higher in points needed for a room than AKV savanna view. I believe a conservative estimate is that cost per night may be 5% to 10% higher as it will be touted as the first monorail/MK resort. Moreover, if announced while AKV is still selling, they will raise the price per point by $7 or more but actually keep AKV close to its price at the time by simply raising the incentive per point to keep it there, and offer only a small incentive on CRV and see how it flies.

 

[BirdsOfPreyDave]

Assuming the points to stay at CRV are about the same as the others DVC's and assuming the cost per point is the same as other DVC's

I hope your assumptions prove true, but I'm not counting on it. I have a feeling -- just like with hotel rooms -- being on the monorail line costs more than staying elsewhere on property. I think the points are going to cost more (it will be hard to book at CRV at the 7 month window, so having it as a home resort will be a benefit -- benefits cost), and I think it's probably going to have some of the highest point-per-night costs of any on-property site. I think it's also going to sell itself, so I'm not thinking they'll have a lot of incentives for it.

 

[tomandrobin]

This seems to be everyone's favorite quote post. However, unlike above, it is the assumption I would take issue with. SSR has a point structure higher than OKW though neither is located near a park. SSR is generally less than the park DVC's. Animal Kingdom brought a whole new direction of how DVC does points. For most of its rooms (savanna view which will be 80% of all rooms) and except for January when it is the same, its point cost is higher than BCV, BWV and VWL It thus is not located at a park but received the highest point structure yet for 80% of its rooms. It does have animals and a uniqueness.

CRV, if it ever comes into being, is, by my best quesstimate, going to be higher in points needed for a room than AKV savanna view. I believe a conservative estimate is that cost per night may be 5% to 10% higher as it will be touted as the first monorail/MK resort. Moreover, if announced while AKV is still selling, they will raise the price per point by $7 or more but actually keep AKV close to its price at the time by simply raising the incentive per point to keep it there, and offer only a small incentive on CRV and see how it flies.

On the other hand AKV also has some of the lowest points per night rooms. Those "Value" rooms are cheap, plus the one bedroom sleeps 5!

Also, CRV will have MK views (mucho points) and lake/pool view room (value points) similar to AKV point structure. The only "X" factor is will it have a conceirge level also. I'm thinking that it will, especially with the success/demand of AKV club level.

 

[Jimdvc]

I have a feeling -- just like with hotel rooms -- being on the monorail line costs more than staying elsewhere on property. I think it's probably going to have some of the highest point-per-night costs of any on-property site. I think it's also going to sell itself, so I'm not thinking they'll have a lot of incentives for it.

I agree.

The demand for being able to be on the monorail in 10 mins, from the time you leave your room will be huge.