What's wrong with the Twilight series??

Yeah, but didn't we see it coming a mile away after Rosalie's background story?

Yes, and I just need to get over the fact that the author really did not care for doing a real vampire series. It is just it had a lot of potential to go there.

I want to read the Sookie Stackhouse series but I won't touch it until True Blood is cancelled.
 
Yeah, but didn't we see it coming a mile away after Rosalie's background story? I hear you, but in his defense, Edward -- who can read Jacob's thoughts -- specifically told Bella that Jacob wasn't thinking about Renesemee in sexual terms AT ALL. Just that his whole world centered around her, that he would do anything for her, etc.

Also, didn't we all see the "it's a girl and Jacob imprints" coming a mile away? I mean, after his friend (Quil?) imprinted on a child, we understood that this was possible, although not particularly a good thing. And it was the only thing that could've united the two groups.

Of coruse it was obvious she was going to go there for a long time before she did. I found that to be the case with pretty much the whole series (to quote DD again--"it's supposed to be foreSHADOWING not FOREbeating you over the head with it-ing":lmao:).
And yes i get that Meyer made it all okay by having Edward "read" that Jacob just wanted to take care of the baby. it is still creepy and wrong, not the least because the girl apparently gets zero choice in who she eventually will love or marry and zero chance to date others, etc.
 
Yes, and I just need to get over the fact that the author really did not care for doing a real vampire series. It is just it had a lot of potential to go there.

I want to read the Sookie Stackhouse series but I won't touch it until True Blood is cancelled.

I love True Blood!! I read one of the Sookie Stackhouse books and really liked it. I'm going to order them all:thumbsup2
 
There is a ton of sex in the fourth book. And there is cursing, but not quite as much as other books.

Reason #345245432 I don't have morals: My first thought was, "A TON of sex? Hardly! Plus it's more hinting at sex that anything." :lmao:

I'm reading the Black Dagger Brotherhood books, which are most certainly not YA though. (Smutty fiction FTW!)
 

I know i'm late to this thread but....

Twilight just plain sucks.
I read the first few chapters a few years ago and wanted to barf.
I can write better than that and i'm an awful writer.
 
Bella saddling a child with the name Renesemee is reason enough for me to hate her.
 
I have the first 3 books. They're okay. Nowhere NEAR as good as Harry Potter. (<3)

The problems I have with the books are as follows:


  • The fact that Bella is a blatant Mary Sue. This is clear from the first page of Twilight.
  • Bella also has no personality. The whole "This is so any girl can insert herself in Bella's place" seems like such a cop-out to me.
  • The climaxes are duds.
  • Edward and Bella's "relationship" Bella has her famous "Three things are for certain" line about 5 days after meeting Edward. They get married after knowing each other for about 18 months I think and Edward wasn't even THERE for 6 of them! Plus, watching her sleep? DISTURBING.
  • There is no subtlety in the books. AT ALL. You KNOW when something's coming because of all the "foreshadowing"
  • Jacob is so obviously written in a way that you don't want him anywhere NEAR Bella.
  • The imprinting thing. No. Just...no.
  • Bella getting pregnant. Even though just one book earlier Rosalie said that she couldn't have children because she was a vampire. So...Vampire women are barren but men aren't?
  • The writing. Good God, the writing.
These aren't anywhere close to being my favorite books. (HARRY POTTER <3) I do, however, ADORE Alice. Because she is awesome.
 
because it's about vampires?? idk, that's all i got.

remember when Harry Potter was all the rage, and people didn't want their kids to read it because "OMG IT'S ABOUT WITCH CRAFT!!"??

same thing. people are paranoid. i would hope that people are teaching their kids that there's a difference between real life and books/movies.
 
shoot maybe I shouldn't let my 8 year old watch Beauty and the Beast anymore

that Gaston a bit possesive and Belle could even be considered stalkerish, you know that whole mirror to "watch" the Beast and all...

It's a book people relax
 
I look at the Twilight books and movies as entertainment. They are not something I think is worth analyzing. As far as the books go, they all have some violence. The last book has some sexual content that parents may have a problem with letting their tween read. I would suggest the parent read the 4th book first if they have any doubts.

Books 1 through 3 have the same type of content as the Twilight movies and I don't see a problem with a tween reading them. I see no problem with a teenager reading any of the books.
 
Well, I can understand why some people have a problem with it. I didn't really notice it too much when I read the books or after I first saw New Moon but I just recently watched it again, after getting it on DVD, and I didn't like how Edward said something like "I will not live if you die." And when he thinks she died, he goes to extreme lengths to die.

I didn't like thinking that there could be a Twihard (extreme Twilight fan) out there with a boyfriend or girlfriend out there who dies then in turn kills themselves because that's what Edward or Bella would have done.

I certainly wouldn't restrict my child from reading the books or watching the movies but I think a little this-is-only-fiction discussion would be important.
 
I read "Romeo and Juliet" several times in grade school. I'm still here. I don't remember a teacher ever prefacing the play with, "And don't kill yourself, kids.":confused3 Read "The Great Gatsby" too. Never was told not to murder. Teachers never told us not to kill puppies after reading "Of Mice and Men." I hope that most kids that are old enough to read these books are old enough to tell the difference between fact and fiction, right and wrong. Not every character is going to be likable or someone you can relate to. I'm glad Bella is an outsider, not your typical heroine. Who says all female characters in modern literature have to be burning bras yelling Girl Power!
 
Bella is a spineless, unstable wimp, chasing around after Edward pathetically. She's willing to give up everything, including her family and friends, to be with him after knowing him for a very short time. Indeed, she's willing to chuck aside her humanity. I don't see anything admirable in her character at all.

didn't Ariel kind of do the same thing:confused3
she was willing to give up everything for Prince Eric, and they hadn't even spoken

eta she may have even been a teenager when they married.
 
Spineless Bella ends up saving all of her loved ones in the end with her powers. :)

And this was the other problem with Twilight: Bella's ridiculous "power."

It was Meyer's dreadful writing it's worst. Instead of actually exploring what it was like to become a vampire and experiencing the bloodlust that comes with it (which we're lead to believe through the Cullens is difficult to give up), Meyer gives her Superman powers so her transition is like she got a haircut instead of a transformation into a different creature.

Instead of a confrontation between the 'good' vampires and their inexplicable X-Men powers at the end of Breaking Dawn (Meyer once quoted the animated series as an inspiration) against the Volturi, we had Bella and her magic bubble...so the final showdown was just some old vampires chatting it out in woods.

I would have rathered in Breaking Dawn if they'd dropped the ridiculous walking-talking baby, held off the marriage thing, and had Bella actually try out college for a bit...even stayed human for awhile. Edward would have followed her anywhere. Have them travel the world, give her things to actually struggle with once she transformed. Have a more satisfying ending for Jacob rather than give him the baby to imprint on (I wasn't as much creeped out by that as I thought it was just a lazy out for a love triangle).

You were left with the impression that Bella had blown off life for the sake of a cute vampire boy. She blew off her friends. Yes, she protected her parents, but not once did she even try to explain what she was doing, and I think there came a point where they should have known what she was doing.
 
And this was the other problem with Twilight: Bella's ridiculous "power."

It was Meyer's dreadful writing it's worst. Instead of actually exploring what it was like to become a vampire and experiencing the bloodlust that comes with it (which we're lead to believe through the Cullens is difficult to give up), Meyer gives her Superman powers so her transition is like she got a haircut instead of a transformation into a different creature.

Instead of a confrontation between the 'good' vampires and their inexplicable X-Men powers at the end of Breaking Dawn (Meyer once quoted the animated series as an inspiration) against the Volturi, we had Bella and her magic bubble...so the final showdown was just some old vampires chatting it out in woods.

I would have rathered in Breaking Dawn if they'd dropped the ridiculous walking-talking baby, held off the marriage thing, and had Bella actually try out college for a bit...even stayed human for awhile. Edward would have followed her anywhere. Have them travel the world, give her things to actually struggle with once she transformed. Have a more satisfying ending for Jacob rather than give him the baby to imprint on (I wasn't as much creeped out by that as I thought it was just a lazy out for a love triangle).

You were left with the impression that Bella had blown off life for the sake of a cute vampire boy. She blew off her friends. Yes, she protected her parents, but not once did she even try to explain what she was doing, and I think there came a point where they should have known what she was doing.

My sister felt the way you do. I however disagreed with her!:laughing: I thought Breaking Dawn offered a totally different feel than the previous 3 books. I liked that they were married, pregnant and the ensuing struggle to maintain the pregnancy. The birth was full of emotion and action. I completely enjoyed Bella's point of view as she transformed into a vampire. Her ability to embrace vampire life so easily jived with her personality. She was prepared, willing and completely in love so I think that helped curb her vampire desires for blood somewhat. The fact that Edward couldn't read her mind from the beginning totally prepped me for the special power Bella had. Her mind was hers and nobody was allowed in but her, if that makes any sense!:laughing:

As for her explaining to her parents what she was doing, well, that would've put them in danger. Remember the Volturi? They don't like the boring humans to know they exist!:laughing:
 
I have the first 3 books. They're okay. Nowhere NEAR as good as Harry Potter. (<3)

The problems I have with the books are as follows:


  • The fact that Bella is a blatant Mary Sue. This is clear from the first page of Twilight.
  • Bella also has no personality. The whole "This is so any girl can insert herself in Bella's place" seems like such a cop-out to me.
  • The climaxes are duds.
  • Edward and Bella's "relationship" Bella has her famous "Three things are for certain" line about 5 days after meeting Edward. They get married after knowing each other for about 18 months I think and Edward wasn't even THERE for 6 of them! Plus, watching her sleep? DISTURBING.
  • There is no subtlety in the books. AT ALL. You KNOW when something's coming because of all the "foreshadowing"
  • Jacob is so obviously written in a way that you don't want him anywhere NEAR Bella.
  • The imprinting thing. No. Just...no.
  • Bella getting pregnant. Even though just one book earlier Rosalie said that she couldn't have children because she was a vampire. So...Vampire women are barren but men aren't?
  • The writing. Good God, the writing.
These aren't anywhere close to being my favorite books. (HARRY POTTER <3) I do, however, ADORE Alice. Because she is awesome.

I couldn't have said it better myself :thumbsup2 Although I have to disagree with you on one thing. To me Jacob and Edward are the exact same character, with extremely different body temperatures! Whenever they were in the same scene I had to keep stopping to figure out which one was talking.

To the OP, I wouldn't have a problem with my daughter, if I had one, reading it, just so long as she know's it's fluff and that an obsessive/stalker relationship isn't healthy.
On a side note, Rosalie was the only character to show a glimmer of depth, and I didn't appreciate the Florida is a humid swamp where you inhale water comment in the book. :sad2:
 
I wanted to know what all the hype was about so I read the series myself. I loved them. The story is great, but the writing is not. I kept thinking "if only a wonderful author had written this story". My DD 10 has not asked to read them, but if she did I would let her read them. I didn't see anything wrong with the series.
 
My sister felt the way you do. I however disagreed with her!:laughing: I thought Breaking Dawn offered a totally different feel than the previous 3 books. I liked that they were married, pregnant and the ensuing struggle to maintain the pregnancy. The birth was full of emotion and action. I completely enjoyed Bella's point of view as she transformed into a vampire. Her ability to embrace vampire life so easily jived with her personality. She was prepared, willing and completely in love so I think that helped curb her vampire desires for blood somewhat. The fact that Edward couldn't read her mind from the beginning totally prepped me for the special power Bella had. Her mind was hers and nobody was allowed in but her, if that makes any sense!:laughing:

I hated the whole "I'm in terrible agony, but I won't scream...because it might make Edward upset" part of the transformation. I mean, please.

I actually thought it would have made it much more interesting if she had gone after a human - in fact, I was all for her going after Charlie. Not killing him, of course...but give her something to have to deal with than superpowers and a singsongy voice that she can't get used to.

And I thought the birth scene was awful. I love horror stories, and that was just a bad one. I hated that Rosalie didn't care if she lived or died as long as the baby lived, but Bella depended on her anyway.

I hated the 11th hour return of Alice at the end (like she wasn't coming back?) with a family of half-breed vampires. If she'd known that they existed all along, why didn't she bring that up when Bella was pregnant and no one knew what to do about it?


As for her explaining to her parents what she was doing, well, that would've put them in danger. Remember the Volturi? They don't like the boring humans to know they exist!:laughing:

And that was another ridiculous plothole - the Volturi are so committed to secrecy that the punishment for revealing themselves is death, yet they lunch on busloads of tourists on what seems like a regular basis.

Seriously. That's a lot of people who've gone missing. Hasn't someone noticed that by now? It would certainly seem like bad news for the tourism industry in Rome - definitely much more attention-getting than some guy glowing like a disco ball for a few seconds in a town square would.
 












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