what will BCV cost per point?

[Terry S]

Kim, First of all congradulations! Second, I really hope that your guide was informed. I am planning on purchasing at BCV. Just want to confirm. You said that they are planning a moderate increase six months after BCV starts sellings, so am I to assume that when they first start selling, the point price will stay at $75?

Terry

 

[TinkerbellRules]

Has WLV sold out yet?

 

[WDWguru]

She said "all indications" at that time (this was early Dec when we did the presentation) were that DVC was going to hold the price at $75 for "a while, probably six months" and then, based on demand, look at raising it "maybe $5". I have no idea how accurate her information was, but she was VERY confident that the rental point chart was definitely going to be the same as VWL. We asked specifically a couple of times.

 

[Johnnie Fedora]

Wonder if they will still have $10.00/pt MB??

 

[Granny]

TinkerbellRules....no, VWL is not sold out yet. Projected to sell out in 30-60 days. Subject to extension without notice.

Johnnie F...I would think that Disney would float the starting price without MB. There may be some "pent up demand" for many folks and no use giving away something they don't have to. They can always bring MB out later if sales start slow. They can do the same if a future price increase slows sales.

I know it's still rumor, but I really hope the guide is correct about the points being the same as VWL and BWV preferred. That will make things a lot easier on the BWV people especially.

 

[spruce]

I understand your point but 10 years ago you couldn't buy a 150 point contract. It was 230 or 270 minumum, I'm not sure which. In fact, when we took the tour the 1st time in 96, a 150 point contract could be bought but then the next level was over 200 points(what was this #, 218?). There were no odd # of points between 150 and this next level whatever the # was. MB in 96 was part of your resort stay credited to your purchase. In 98 when we bought, it was $10 off.....
We'll just have to wait and see what Disney does, but I don't think the increase will exceed $5 and I expect the points to remain the same as WLV/BWV preferred.......spruce

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by Granny
I guess I'll still left with my other question....why announce EPV at this time, when they are just about to start selling a new DVC resort? Maybe a trial balloon to ascertain interest?

Remember when they announced they were expecting WLV to sell out in Dec, no recession yet (technically) and no 9/11. Obviously they have put some work and money into this project and didn't start or stop it on a whim.

While I'll be surprised in the selling price is the same, it might be without a workable MB in the current economic climate. I'll also be surprised if it's the same points structure but that would be good news. Regardless, it's still "higher points" than BW preferred because there are really no preferred views. I can tell you that when WLV came out at the same at BW preferred, I was floored. I did not see that coming. While I like WLV, there's no comparision to BW from a hotel value standpoint, just look at the prices for the 2 hotels and DVC cash prices.

It will be interesting to say the least.

 

[Granny]

Originally posted by Dean
I can tell you that when WLV came out at the same at BW preferred, I was floored. I did not see that coming. While I like WLV, there's no comparision to BW from a hotel value standpoint, just look at the prices for the 2 hotels and DVC cash prices.

Dean, you've made this observation before. Personally, we probably would not have joined DVC if not for VWL. We just think the WL theming is the best, bar none. In polls I've seen, WL consistently gets voted the favorite deluxe resort. I don't agree whatsoever with your comment that it is far below BW from a hotel value standpoint.

This is not taking anything away from BWV or OKW....it's just a personal preference. But it's hard to sit back and take the subtle slamming of my "home" without some response.

Given your helpful nature and great advice on this board, I know you did not mean it as a slam. But when you express surprise that DVD priced VWL the same as BWV preferred....well, it suggests that you are surprised that anyone would be willing to pay that price for VWL.

 

[Terry S]

Granny, just wait until those of us pay premium $$$ for the view of the road and parking lot at the tiny BCV, we are really going to hear a lot of slams. Just know you made the right decision for you.

 

[Joeblack]

Dean: Don't forget our bet on BCV's point schedule.

I strongly believe that it will be the same as BWV preferred and WLV's. I also believe that price/point will be a bit higher (in the $2-$5 range with a short period for DVC members to buy at current price before it goes up).

Last week, I commented it to and extremely nice young DVC representative(I'll keep her name) at the DVC sales center and she told me 4 things worth mentioning here:

1)The EPV project is on hold and might be wrapped altogether.
2)She does not know what the price per point at BCV will be nor when pre-sales will start.
3)She said she didn't know how they were going to justify a point schedule equal to that of WLV if BCV will have no view whatsoever. The best view they can offer is to a canal and the parking lots (the same I had last week as a standard view in a BWV studio)
4)Sales have slowed down. They expected to sell out WLV by November. Now they wxpect to sell them out by March-April.

 

[Dean]

Originally posted by Granny
Dean, you've made this observation before. Personally, we probably would not have joined DVC if not for VWL. We just think the WL theming is the best, bar none. In polls I've seen, WL consistently gets voted the favorite deluxe resort. I don't agree whatsoever with your comment that it is far below BW from a hotel value standpoint.

Actually I love WL, probably more than BW as a hotel, it's just that I feel an honest person can not look at BW and WL objectively and feel that WL is on par from a deluxe hotel standpoint. Some will like it better, others will not, it's the overall demand that we are comparing. Realize that Disney themselves have labeled BW a higher priced resort by terms of rental prices both for DVC and regular rooms. WL was in the same category as the Cont wing rooms and below the tower in terms of DC points costs. There are also so premium views so this along with have surprised me for them to be the same points costs. Frankly, I had decided to add on until I saw the points costs.

Joe, I'd forgot about the bet and would love to lose that bet. Whatever it was we bet, was it a beer?

 

[ralphd]

The room rate at BW is higher than WL. We own at both resorts, and like then because they offer a different atmosphere.
We were going to add-on at BCV, but decided to add-on at a different location.
Think the location of the BCV buildings also affected our decision.
Both Joe and Dean have good points on the BCV point cost. Still think Disney will annouce a modest price increase, but will give DVC members a chance to buy at $75 per point. Dean may be right about not offering MB initially.
Don't think they will change the point structure from VWL and BWV preferred.
Bet they haven't shelved EPV yet, but have them on hold until they guage final VWL and a large percentage of BCV sales. They will continue DVC sales as long as they are profitable.

ralphd