What we do and don't know

whiporee

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I thought it might be a good idea to try and establish what are facts and what is speculation about WDW and such these days.

What we don't know:
  • Whether free FPs are gone for good
  • To what level WDW has increased capacity from COVID lows. We see lots of speculation, but no one outside of TWDC knows the actual numbers.
  • What features Genie will or won't offer, or what Chapek meant by commercial possibilities.
  • Why WDW has been slow to reopen some shows.
  • How the attendance caps for Boo Bash and the new Christmas party compare to the old ones.

What we do know:
  • That Magical Express is gone, and no replacement seems imminent
  • That there have been no publicized surveys or questions or market research about monetizing FP
  • That WDW bloggers who are speculating on Disney activity earn money from clicks
  • That the Orlando area is still short workers for lower-end jobs
  • That the Orlando area recently saw a COVID spike
  • That Shanghai and Paris have some sort of virtual queue
  • That Shanghai and Paris both implemented a paid FP plan
  • That Shanghai and Paris have a fraction of the attendance of either WDW or DLR. And they cost less; an average of $83 for Paris and $65 for Shanghai
  • That the new parties are more expensive than last year
  • That Extra Magic Hours has changed, going from an average of 3 hours per park per week (1 morning hour, 1 night of 2 hours) to 3.5 hours per park per week (seven days of half-hour earlier).
What are guesses, informed or otherwise:
  • The next incarnation of FP
  • What, if anything, that incarnation will cost
  • The reasons for WDW being slow to reopen shows
If anyone has stuff to add, please feel free.
 
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In regards to the paid fastpasses outside the US:

- We do not know how the paid fastpass in Shanghai influences the lines as Shanghai has always had a paid fastpass.
- We do know that the pre-covid paid fastpass and the hotel fastpasses in Paris didn't noticeably increase the lines.
- We do know that UNTIL now, two weeks after the introduction the new paid fastpass in Paris didn't increase the lines. Paris is still at limited capacity.
 
















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