What is the 1BR Value at AKV?

[ReneeQ]

Why is the "value" villa so many less points? Will the 1BR value accommodate 5 people, 2 adults and 3 children?
Thanks!

 

[disneynutz]

Value rooms are smaller than regular rooms. They were made when the regular hotel rooms were converted to DVC rooms, left over space if you will.

They are less points for a reason.

Bill

 

[Deb & Bill]

Why is the "value" villa so many less points? Will the 1BR value accommodate 5 people, 2 adults and 3 children?
Thanks!

The only way the one bedroom value villa will hold five is if one of the guests is under the age of three. You cannot put five guests, aged three or older in the one bedroom value villa. They are strict on occupancy for the value villas. Four plus one. Not five.

 

[ReneeQ]

So I'm guessing the 1BR "Value Level" at AKV is made up of what used to be two regular hotel rooms? Correct? So it's not a typical DVC 1 BR. I thought maybe it was a bad view or something that made it less points. But they won't allow 5? In what used to be two rooms that allowed 4 each? And the GFV studio will allow 5? Hmm.

 

[LisaS]

So I'm guessing the 1BR "Value Level" at AKV is made up of what used to be two regular hotel rooms? Correct? So it's not a typical DVC 1 BR. I thought maybe it was a bad view or something that made it less points. But they won't allow 5? In what used to be two rooms that allowed 4 each? And the GFV studio will allow 5? Hmm.

Yes AKV's Value rooms were created by converting the space occupied by two Regular AKL hotel rooms. One hotel room became a master bedroom, bathroom and laundry area. The other hotel room became a living area and kitchen.

The non-Value 1BRs in Jambo House were created by converting the space occupied by two AKL Deluxe hotel rooms which were about 3 feet longer. The extra length is in the living area and the master bedroom. That difference in length is why the Value 1BRs (and 2BRs) do not have the sleeper chair and therefore have a lower occupancy.

The GFV studios have a pull down bed in addition to the queen bed and the fullsize sleeper sofa so they can accommodate 5 people though I got the impression from some other posts that the pull down might be too small for an adult.

ETA: As Deb & Bill said, you can have four plus a child under 3 years of age in a Value 1BR.

 

[Deb & Bill]

So I'm guessing the 1BR "Value Level" at AKV is made up of what used to be two regular hotel rooms? Correct? So it's not a typical DVC 1 BR. I thought maybe it was a bad view or something that made it less points. But they won't allow 5? In what used to be two rooms that allowed 4 each? And the GFV studio will allow 5? Hmm.

It comes down to the rules for DVC one bedroom villas. These are much smaller than the other one bedroom villas at AKV. So no room for the sleeper chair. So no room for an extra person.

 

[ReneeQ]

Thanks for the explanations. I'm trying to help a friend squeeze in one more trip with her very limited DVC points, so looking at all options. Her children are 9, 7 and 4. I knew the value AKV rooms were hard to get, but she does own at AKV, so thought it might be an option. MS has allowed the 5 of them to be booked in 1 BRs at BCV, BWV, BLT and SSR, but I wasn't sure about the values.

 

[Deb & Bill]

Thanks for the explanations. I'm trying to help a friend squeeze in one more trip with her very limited DVC points, so looking at all options. Her children are 9, 7 and 4. I knew the value AKV rooms were hard to get, but she does own at AKV, so thought it might be an option. MS has allowed the 5 of them to be booked in 1 BRs at BCV, BWV, BLT and SSR, but I wasn't sure about the values.

What about OKW? Fewer points, larger and the one bedroom sleeps five with the sleeper chair.

 

[wrighter]

So do all the "value" rooms at Jambo (studio, 1 bd, or 2bd) have good views? I always assumed the value rooms looked out at the trash bins or something. It just means that they're smaller?

 

[Deb & Bill]

So do all the "value" rooms at Jambo (studio, 1 bd, or 2bd) have good views? I always assumed the value rooms looked out at the trash bins or something. It just means that they're smaller?

The value villas are savanna view, pool view and parking lot view. You cannot request a view with value villas. You get what you get. They are substantially smaller than the non-value villas.

 

[wrighter]

Thanks, Deb & Bill. I learn something new every day on the Dis!

Guess I will have to keep those value rooms in mind in the future when we need more beds, but not necessarily more space. No wonder they sell out so fast!

 

[LisaS]

So do all the "value" rooms at Jambo (studio, 1 bd, or 2bd) have good views? I always assumed the value rooms looked out at the trash bins or something. It just means that they're smaller?

They are Value rooms because they are three feet shorter. That's why they are called "Value" and not "Value View". It's not the view, it's the size of the room.

As Deb & BIll said, most of the Value villas face either the pool or the Sunset Savanna. Two 2BR lockoff Value villas face the parking lot but there is a lot of vegetation in that area so it's probably not too bad for a parking lot view. There are additional rooms on the 5th floor that face the parking lot but they are AKL hotel rooms that were not converted to DVC villas.

 

[MarineFam]

so is there a difference in size between Standard one bedroom and Savannah view? Trying to save a few points but still wanted some room. In a Studio Savanna view now and really think we will do a one bedroom from now on. Want the room and laundry. It was all that was available. we are booked for a 2br in April though.

 

[chalee94]

so is there a difference in size between Standard one bedroom and Savannah view?

No.

 

[1971DBday]

The only way the one bedroom value villa will hold five is if one of the guests is under the age of three. You cannot put five guests, aged three or older in the one bedroom value villa. They are strict on occupancy for the value villas. Four plus one. Not five.

Okay- now I'm concerned. We are new DVC owners with our home resort at AKV. We are a family of 5 and based our points purchase on a one bedroom value!!!! At no point was it communicated to us that there are no value one bedrooms that sleep 5!!!!

 

[Dean]

Okay- now I'm concerned. We are new DVC owners with our home resort at AKV. We are a family of 5 and based our points purchase on a one bedroom value!!!! At no point was it communicated to us that there are no value one bedrooms that sleep 5!!!!

Then you have a problem because they will not unless one is under 3 at the start of the reservation dates. I'm assuming you bought direct, are you close enough to change or cancel?

 

[1971DBday]

Then you have a problem because they will not unless one is under 3 at the start of the reservation dates. I'm assuming you bought direct, are you close enough to change or cancel?

We are about to send in our signed contract! This is just very frustrating! He met all of our kids and our focus was fitting a family of 5 in a room!!! Now I have to tell DH we need to either cancel or buy 52 more points or stay less days.

 

[Dean]

We are about to send in our signed contract! This is just very frustrating! He met all of our kids and our focus was fitting a family of 5 in a room!!! Now I have to tell DH we need to either cancel or buy 52 more points or stay less days.

I hadn't linked the two thread's until now. Another option is resale. Remember you're talking to a salesperson, he has his and the employer's best interests at heart, not yours.

 

[1971DBday]

I hadn't linked the two thread's until now. Another option is resale. Remember you're talking to a salesperson, he has his and the employer's best interests at heart, not yours.

Yes, my DH is in sales - we know the routine, thus why I am doing my homework before we sign anything. I will speak to DH but I think we can still make this work. I have gotten over the initial shock I think we will just continue on with the contract. Someday in the future we can try adding onto our points but in the meantime we can rent or modify our reservation.

Yes. I'm all over the place today! Thanks for confirming! I would rather be a educated buyer then be in the dark about all of this. I'm sure there is so much more for us to learn!!!

 

[Deb & Bill]

Yes, my DH is in sales - we know the routine, thus why I am doing my homework before we sign anything. I will speak to DH but I think we can still make this work. I have gotten over the initial shock I think we will just continue on with the contract. Someday in the future we can try adding onto our points but in the meantime we can rent or modify our reservation.

Yes. I'm all over the place today! Thanks for confirming! I would rather be a educated buyer then be in the dark about all of this. I'm sure there is so much more for us to learn!!!

You still have time to buy a resale and save money so you get more points for the same money. Check out the resale prices on some of the resale company sites. The Timeshare Store has a link at the top of the DVC boards.

Also, DVC reallocates points from time to time, so the dates and size villa you want could go up and others go down. Since you bought only what you needed for that specific villa for that specific time, you might need more. And you would be in the same situation.