What is Michael Newdow (CA atheist) up to now???

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Did anyone else see 'Your World with Neil Cavuto" today? Michael Newdow, the atheist who wanted 'under God" removed from the Pledge of Allegiance, now wants to remove the phrase "In God We Trust" from U.S. currency! Is this guy for real or what? I mean, the argument that he tried to make today was baseless and without thought and just all-around silly. Neil Cavuto tried to get a straight answer out of him when he was asked how these words disrupt his everyday way of life and he responded by asking Cavuto if it would bother him if "I don't believe in God" were printed on dollar bills! Truth be told, I could care less if it had "I think warthogs are sexy" written on my money! :rolleyes: The only time I even think about things like this is when some goof-ball has a hair-brained, wacked out idea of changing the course of history in this country. Everytime this guy opens his mouth, our forefathers our rolling over in their graves!!!!!

Is it just me or does this guy have way too much time on his hands? :confused3
 
I couldn't possibly care less whether the words are printed on the money or not. Would I prefer they not be there? Yes! But I don't feel strongly enough about it to make a fuss.

I did get into an argument with a twit in one of my classes a while back, though. Keep in mind, this is a class on diversity and multiculturalism... we were talking about minorities' rights when this happened. She made a comment about people who complain about "in god we trust," saying that they should all just not accept or spend money if they have such a problem with it. :sad2:

Clueless. Absolutely clueless.
 
Newdow is an Idiot. He is trying to impose his views on everyone else.
 
He's just a nutcase looking for attention.
 

Pugdog007 said:
He's just a nutcase looking for attention.

MTE

after his own daughter told the world she wouldnt support him he had to come up with a way to save face and stay in the spotlight.


The sad thing is he is getting the attention.


I hope loses by a huge margin then *maybe* he will go away.



the thing is I dong think its even his belief system that is driving this whole thing, I think its more of a "I dont wanna and you cant make me" kind of thing.


What is the quote form Toy Story? "You're a sad strange little man"
 
HOGFAN said:
Newdow is an Idiot. He is trying to impose his views on everyone else.

OK, let me preface this by saying I do think he is a nut, BUT did he say believers shouldn't believe? He's fighting against having other's views imposed on him via our government, not the other way around. We are supposed to have a separation of church and state in this country. I don't like God on the money or in the pledge, but it really doesn't matter. The word means nothing to me.
 
(who's Neil Cavuto?)

YUP - everybody I know wishes this guy would just go away! He's an odd-ball publicity hound who can't leave traditional stuff alone!
 
HOGFAN said:
Newdow is an Idiot. He is trying to impose his views on everyone else.

And the presence of a word implying a belief on official government currency is a classic example of trying to impose your views (belief in an spiritual deity) on those who don't share those beliefs. I guess that makes the US Treasury an idiot by your definition.

I am a proud American. I believe in the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, and I am in gratitude of all those who have fought through the years to defend it. I'm especially proud of the first amendment of the Constitution, which states:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The word "God" on governmental currency is a violation of the first amendment. By having it printed on officially recognized currrency, it's an establishment of religion, which our constitution specifically states is illegal. I applaud Michael Newdow in his efforts to see that the law is properly adhered to, as unpopular as that might be.
 
minniecarousel said:
(who's Neil Cavuto?)

YUP - everybody I know wishes this guy would just go away! He's an odd-ball publicity hound who can't leave traditional stuff alone!
Traditional certainly doesn't mean right, especially when it comes to issues of religion. :confused3

I like and respect the guy.
 
HOGFAN said:
Newdow is an Idiot. He is trying to impose his views on everyone else.

And the word "god" on our money isn't imposing a belief on the rest of us? :confused3
 
Now, I don't know if Newdow is a nut or not, and I do think there are other things out there that are more important, BUT I agree that God doesn't belong in our pledge or on our currency.
 
The problem I have is, that this appears to be just another attempt for him to get his mug on TV. He failed in his attempt at the Pledge of Allegiance and this is his new battle. He is not truly fighting for the First Amendment, he's simply doing this because he does not believe in God. If this were a Catholic or Protestant doing this, I would say you're right. But his whole argument is selfish and self-motivated. And his comments on Fox news today validated that. He is angry and upset that he is being singled out and clearly drew comparisons between this and segregation! That's just...ummm...what's the word I'm looking for...oh yeah...CUKOO!!!

Besides, James Madison's original intention for this Amendment was that there should be no national religion established. It was then altered in the House to state that Congress shall make no law establishing religion. It was then the Senate's turn to chime in and they changed it to state that Congress shall make no law establishing articles of faith. The House and Senate then got together with Madison and came up with today's phraseolgy. It was important at the time of drafting because different states were dominated by different sects.
I don't believe that this is a violation of the First Amendment. It was simply meant that the government shall not have the ability to tell people that they will worship in Catholic, Protestant, Episcolpalian, Quaker, or Presbyterian faiths.
 
Technically, he didn't fail. The Supreme court ducked ruling on the issue on a technicality (he didn't have legal custody of his daughter, so he wasn't allowed to make the argument itself in front of the court.) The court never actually ruled on the legality of the phrase itself in the pledge of allegance.

By the way, not believing in some sort of god is a perfectly valid reason to take up the fight on his own . Ask yourself the following question; would you have no objections to the phrase "In Allah We Trust" on your money if Muslims were the majority in this country?
 
There are squeeky wheels everywhere. You learn to just ignore them. I wonder how firmly he would hold on to his principles if someone offered him a lot of money to go away.

But what really disturbs me is the 9th circuit court (in California. . .big shocker). This is the court that said "under God" was unconstitutional (the next day, one of the justices recanted his vote. . .spineless). This court has now said that parents have no say on how their child should be taught about sex, saying the schools (the same California public schools that came up with ebonics I might add) are better able to decide the best way to teach your children about sex.

This is much more disturbing than Micheal Nedow. Oh, and there is no seperation of Church and State clause in the Constitution (nor is there anything about personal privacy).

Warthogs are sexy would be pretty funny to have on our currency. I think if we showed a little insanity, it may get us a little forgiveness for W.
 
An honest question here: why is God on our money, anyway? It just doesn't seem right, somehow--guess I'm thinking of the Bible story about Jesus and the moneychangers...
Does anyone know the story of that phrase and how it relates to money?
Thanks! :flower:
 
DisneyDotty said:
An honest question here: why is God on our money, anyway? It just doesn't seem right, somehow--guess I'm thinking of the Bible story about Jesus and the moneychangers...
Does anyone know the story of that phrase and how it relates to money?
Thanks! :flower:

The US Treasury knows.
 
Deffiently think it is a two way street. This guy is expressing/impossing his view that "God" should be removed from government. And the government is impossing "God" by having it on currency and the pledge.

Do I care one way or the other, not really. But you got to look at both sides to get the full picture.
 
disneychrista said:
Deffiently think it is a two way street. This guy is expressing/impossing his view that "God" should be removed from government. And the government is impossing "God" by having it on currency and the pledge.

Do I care one way or the other, not really. But you got to look at both sides to get the full picture.

Seems like both sides of this particular street in your argument go the same way. He is not imposing his particular view, he has the law behind him. The first amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Government needs to be out of the religion business, since that is how our country is designed to work. People are free to follow whatever spiritual calling (or none whatsoever) that appeals to them, but no state sponsorship or endorsement, period!
 
Mugg Mann said:
The first amendment clearly states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion".

When congress put that phrase on our money they weren't establishing a religion. They were simply saying, "In God we trust, all others cash." :teeth:
 


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