What is going on with the FP+ crackdown?

[AngiTN]

I bet DH forgot that Country Bears and Space Mountain took the same coupon! Wait till I show him

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Because it's easier to complain than put your money where your mouth is. Or in this case, put the credit card in the drawer. My future in laws are like this about cruises. They complain all throughout the cruise and then 2 months after they get back, they book another cruise. Only to complain about everything once again.

Are you referring to me, Rox?

...cause I have done just what you are referring to: putting the credit card away and vacationing in other places.

...it's not that tough.

I haven't sworn to burn all things disney...but rejecting DCL, no passes, carrying full banks of DVC points (never...ever...done before)...

They are losing bigtime on me as compared to the "how magical is POR" crowd?

Based on my expenditures at a young age...there is no "next man up". That's the bottomline there.

 

[OSUZorba]

FP not assigned to real people? How do you determine who is real?

Not sure I'm allowed to use the proper terms here that would explain better. But they deleted the donor FPs.

 

[lockedoutlogic]

Have a color printer?

I can't believe Tarzan rocks wasn't on there...

 

[AngiTN]

Not sure I'm allowed to use the proper terms here that would explain better. But they deleted the donor FPs.

I fully realize that. I honestly wondered how they determined who was a real person and who wasn't, in the case of the person who's MDE account was locked.
I mean, I know obvious cases but if the people have real names and real tickets is there something else they did to figure out what FP to remove from them?

 

[BuckeyeBama]

I fully realize that. I honestly wondered how they determined who was a real person and who wasn't, in the case of the person who's MDE account was locked.
I mean, I know obvious cases but if the people have real names and real tickets is there something else they did to them?

You may be making a critical mistake in assuming that any of this really happened. I mean, you can lie on the internet, right? Not that anyone does, but it is possible.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I bet DH forgot that Country Bears and Space Mountain took the same coupon! Wait till I show him

LOL. We do Country Bears every visit. It's one of my husband's favorite childhood memories, and my favorite place to nap.

 

[AngiTN]

You may be making a critical mistake in assuming that any of this really happened. I mean, you can lie on the internet, right? Not that anyone does, but it is possible.

No. Surely you must be kidding. This can't possibly happen. Can it?

 

[AngiTN]

LOL. We do Country Bears every visit. It's one of my husband's favorite childhood memories, and my favorite place to nap.

I drug DH there sometime last year. He has not let me forget it yet. I am ok with corny. I mean, I grew up going to Opry Land every day for goodness sakes. Corny is in my blood. A little Tiki Room, a little Country Bears and I'm good for a while. But really, an E ticket. Someone was clearly on drugs to put it there.......

 

[DisneyMom93]

I drug DH there sometime last year. He has not let me forget it yet. I am ok with corny. I mean, I grew up going to Opry Land every day for goodness sakes. Corny is in my blood. A little Tiki Room, a little Country Bears and I'm good for a while. But really, an E ticket. Someone was clearly on drugs to put it there.......

Ha! Remember Tiki Room with Iago? We did Tiki Room one visit and the next time our kids were like No thanks.

 

[OSUZorba]

I fully realize that. I honestly wondered how they determined who was a real person and who wasn't, in the case of the person who's MDE account was locked.
I mean, I know obvious cases but if the people have real names and real tickets is there something else they did to figure out what FP to remove from them?

They were deleted from the accounts that had not scanned into the park. In this case the donor was his son who is real, but not there.

 

[jknezek]

I drug DH there sometime last year. He has not let me forget it yet. I am ok with corny. I mean, I grew up going to Opry Land every day for goodness sakes. Corny is in my blood. A little Tiki Room, a little Country Bears and I'm good for a while. But really, an E ticket. Someone was clearly on drugs to put it there.......

At the time of the opening of MK, audio animatronics were an incredible new technology. Any attraction that included them in any substantial form were very popular E tickets. Country Bears was longer and more appropriate for the Western shows that were popular on TV at the time. We tend to think of the older attractions in modern terms, but this truly was a groundbreaking piece of technology in the early to mid 70s. It was every bit an E ticket attraction then.

 

[AngiTN]

At the time of the opening of MK, audio animatronics were an incredible new technology. Any attraction that included them in any substantial form were very popular E tickets. Country Bears was longer and more appropriate for the Western shows that were popular on TV at the time. We tend to think of the older attractions in modern terms, but this truly was a groundbreaking piece of technology in the early to mid 70s. It was every bit an E ticket attraction then.

I'm old enough to remember (which is probably why I had forgotten ). Still can't wrap my brain around ever picking going to Country Bears over riding Space Mountain. And I didn't.

 

[jknezek]

I'm old enough to remember (which is probably why I had forgotten ). Still can't wrap my brain around ever picking going to Country Bears over riding Space Mountain. And I didn't.

Space Mountain didn't open until early 1975. Country Bears was an original at opening in Oct 1971. But regardless, original E tickets also included Hall of Presidents. You have to remember just how novel the audio animatronics were. They fascinated people who had never seen a robot and only really read about them in science fiction or seen giant clunky ones in factories. The precision and synchronization was completely novel. Lots of people preferred Space Mountain when it opened, but they didn't prefer the Tea Party or the Shooting Gallery to seeing these amazing AAs.

 

[HopperFan]

FP not assigned to real people? How do you determine who is real?

They were deleted from the accounts that had not scanned into the park. In this case the donor was his son who is real, but not there.

That would be my assumption. They attempted twice to "change" the FP+ but the tickets they were on had not been scanned to enter. Lock. They went to GR who then looked at the MDE and saw XX number of FP+ booked on tickets that had not scanned to enter. I would assume they would delete all FP+ associated with names not scanned at front gate.

Have a color printer?

WOW, I am really disappointed in you - that this is unused.

I have several packets of tickets with some unused, but no E tickets left.

 

[AngiTN]

That would be my assumption. They attempted twice to "change" the FP+ but the tickets they were on had not been scanned to enter. Lock. They went to GR who then looked at the MDE and saw XX number of FP+ booked on tickets that had not scanned to enter. I would assume they would delete all FP+ associated with names not scanned at front gate.

I do wonder how many people are doing this without a clue they are breaking any rules? Sure we all know it's in the TOS but how many users have read the TOS. And yes, I realize not reading the TOS is no excuse for not knowing it. Just saying that there are an awful lot of guests at Disney that are not terribly computer savy and wouldn't think they are headed to Disney Jail for using Grandma's band when she was too tired to head to the park after 7 days at Disney. Will they remove all of Grandma's FP for the rest of the trip?

 

[BuckeyeBama]

Will they remove all of Grandma's FP for the rest of the trip?

My bet - they will not.

 

[jknezek]

I do wonder how many people are doing this without a clue they are breaking any rules? Sure we all know it's in the TOS but how many users have read the TOS. And yes, I realize not reading the TOS is no excuse for not knowing it. Just saying that there are an awful lot of guests at Disney that are not terribly computer savy and wouldn't think they are headed to Disney Jail for using Grandma's band when she was too tired to head to the park after 7 days at Disney. Will they remove all of Grandma's FP for the rest of the trip?

I'm guessing if Grandma has been in the park in the last few days they simply tell you FPs are not transferrable and that you have to use your own band. But if Grandma hasn't been in the park in a year and someone says "oh, sorry. She'll be in tomorrow" and then pulls the same act the next day, I'm thinking Grandma's FPs should get tossed...

 

[lockedoutlogic]

At the time of the opening of MK, audio animatronics were an incredible new technology. Any attraction that included them in any substantial form were very popular E tickets. Country Bears was longer and more appropriate for the Western shows that were popular on TV at the time. We tend to think of the older attractions in modern terms, but this truly was a groundbreaking piece of technology in the early to mid 70s. It was every bit an E ticket attraction then.

Indeed...which is why the term "E ticket" is by definition an indication of popularity...not technical achievement (think that's outdated now a bit though)

The Pirates of the Caribbean at wdw is the most ridden amusement In history by a lot and will never be caught (according to estimates including Guinness)...a 2 hour line for 30 years on a high volume ride is the only way to do that...

People loved the robots and the song...perfect spectacle...like the haunted mansion. Country bears had that appeal for the first 20 years or so at the magic kingdom.

 

[Planogirl]

I do wonder how many people are doing this without a clue they are breaking any rules? Sure we all know it's in the TOS but how many users have read the TOS. And yes, I realize not reading the TOS is no excuse for not knowing it. Just saying that there are an awful lot of guests at Disney that are not terribly computer savy and wouldn't think they are headed to Disney Jail for using Grandma's band when she was too tired to head to the park after 7 days at Disney. Will they remove all of Grandma's FP for the rest of the trip?

I would guess that they would leave Grandma's stuff alone if they see that she is an actual visitor. That would be easy enough to see if the group is staying onsite. I don't know what they do when it comes to off-site visitors though. Maybe they only delete FP for that day? Hopefully poor Grandma won't want to go that night.