What Happens When Someone Falls Overboard on a Cruise?

[Tonka's Skipper]

I've read this story before about the kid who jumped and then was confined to the brig, but I can't quite picture it. How did he "climb up again"? Or do you mean he tried to jump a second time? I guess this was from a lower deck?

They were docked and the idiot swam to the pier, where he was pulled out of the water.

AKK

 

[kamik86]

Well when I was stressing to my preschool age children why they must never, ever climb on a railing, I explained that even if they managed to survive the fall without being very, very hurt, they would still be in trouble because the sharks would GOBBLE them up! However, I couldn't find reference to this on the Disney website so it may not be entirely accurate. ;-). (Shhh! Don't tell my kids!)

Lol these little inaccuracies are good with kids. When I worked at camp if we talked about not keeping food in your tent it was always because bears and skunks would try to get in to get it (scary and smelly things) not the really more likely squirrels, raccoons, and mice because some of the kids would think those animals are cute/cool and would like to see them.

 

[Quellman]

DCL has Man Overboard detection system on their ships. Should someone go overboard an alarm goes off on the bridge, the camera playback then shows who / what it was.

I had done some cursory looking into MOB detection systems but could not find conclusive evidence that Disney uses it. [one link] Holland America apparently is rolling out (slowly) a thermal imaging system.

 

[E ticket rider]

This is terrible, but a 21-year-old male student from Virginia Tech "fell" off the Carnival Glory and is presumed dead. I feel horrible for his family, but I can't help but think that this is either a suicide or the kid was drunk and did something incredibly stupid.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ng-after-falling-carnival-cruise-ship-n321361

 

[KLB9]

Another Key is how fast the boat is moving, and day or night.

If you fall off at night when going full speed, I don't care if the entire crew saw you fall, I don't see them finding you.

 

[tinkerone]

Another Key is how fast the boat is moving, and day or night.

If you fall off at night when going full speed, I don't care if the entire crew saw you fall, I don't see them finding you.

it can happen.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Travel/dis...s-passenger-jumped-overboard/story?id=8485747

 

[Dug720]

This is terrible, but a 21-year-old male student from Virginia Tech "fell" off the Carnival Glory and is presumed dead. I feel horrible for his family, but I can't help but think that this is either a suicide or the kid was drunk and did something incredibly stupid.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ng-after-falling-carnival-cruise-ship-n321361

Those would be the two most common reasons for someone "falling" overboard. It's not like you can just trip and OOPS! (Well, I guess if you're walking on stacks of chairs near the rail or are like over 7 feet tall...)

 

[C6PT7]

I had done some cursory looking into MOB detection systems but could not find conclusive evidence that Disney uses it. [one link] Holland America apparently is rolling out (slowly) a thermal imaging system.

Here's some info:
"VARUNA MAN OVERBOARD DETECTION SYSTEM (V-MOB) V-MOB is a revolutionary man overboard detection system that integrates thermal imaging cameras, advanced video analytics, and Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) technologies, providing automated surveillance and detection capabilities around the ship’s perimeter.
V-MOB is designed to detect and record these events and create automated alerts to crew members in the case of man- overboard events, fires, and unauthorized boardings.
V-MOB Detection Systems are currently installed on more than 30 cruise vessels operated by Carnival Corporation and Disney Cruise Lines.

http://static1.squarespace.com/stat...400774190614/Invizeon+Overview+5_21+FINAL.pdf

"Tragically, most major cruise lines, with the exception of Disney, refuse to employ these devices -- even though the 2010 ''Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010" or CVSSA -- requires them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/spenc...e-ship-passengers-lost-at-sea-_b_6775536.html

 

[Starwind]

Mer another manufacturer of MOB detector systems:

http://www.marss.mc/mobtronic/applications

"...new regulations imposed by the Cruise Vessel Safety and Security Act of 2010 stipulating that all cruise ships which carry more than 250 passengers, have overnight accommodations, and embark or disembark passengers in the U.S. have to install “technology that can be used for capturing images of passengers or detecting passengers who have fallen overboard”."


According to this article (http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/0...ram-controversy-around-man-overboard-systems/ ) " (Disney says that its cruise ships have the technology)"


An article about the US GAO report about cruise lines not following the law: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2014/0...vessel-safety-and-security-act-cvssa-of-2010/

THe report itself is here: http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/659897.pdf

 

[bumbershoot]

The second was a boy who jumped overboard while the Ship was docked, climbed up again and was confined to quarters by the Captain for the remainder of the cruise.

On our last (or second to last?) Disney cruise we were sitting in front of two Disney youth counselor CMs on the tram back to the ship at the end of the day. They were joined by a youngish man. Who proceeded to regale them with stories about how when he was young he jumped from the ship while in dock and ended up getting caught and in trouble.

His story did NOT impress the CMs. Oops.

Wonder if he was "the guy" or had just heard of the guy?

 

[E ticket rider]

Well, I guess if you're walking on stacks of chairs near the rail or are like over 7 feet tall...

I'm pretty sure that falls under the heading of "incredibly stupid"... Just sayin'...

 

[Quellman]

Here's some info:
"VARUNA MAN OVERBOARD DETECTION SYSTEM (V-MOB) V-MOB is a revolutionary man overboard detection system that integrates thermal imaging cameras, advanced video analytics, and Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) technologies, providing automated surveillance and detection capabilities around the ship’s perimeter.
V-MOB is designed to detect and record these events and create automated alerts to crew members in the case of man- overboard events, fires, and unauthorized boardings.
V-MOB Detection Systems are currently installed on more than 30 cruise vessels operated by Carnival Corporation and Disney Cruise Lines.

http://static1.squarespace.com/stat...400774190614/Invizeon+Overview+5_21+FINAL.pdf

"Tragically, most major cruise lines, with the exception of Disney, refuse to employ these devices -- even though the 2010 ''Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010" or CVSSA -- requires them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/spenc...e-ship-passengers-lost-at-sea-_b_6775536.html

Wonderful news. Thanks a lot for the links.

 

[Kenny1113]

Here's some info:
"VARUNA MAN OVERBOARD DETECTION SYSTEM (V-MOB) V-MOB is a revolutionary man overboard detection system that integrates thermal imaging cameras, advanced video analytics, and Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) technologies, providing automated surveillance and detection capabilities around the ship’s perimeter.
V-MOB is designed to detect and record these events and create automated alerts to crew members in the case of man- overboard events, fires, and unauthorized boardings.
V-MOB Detection Systems are currently installed on more than 30 cruise vessels operated by Carnival Corporation and Disney Cruise Lines.

http://static1.squarespace.com/stat...400774190614/Invizeon+Overview+5_21+FINAL.pdf

"Tragically, most major cruise lines, with the exception of Disney, refuse to employ these devices -- even though the 2010 ''Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010" or CVSSA -- requires them."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/spenc...e-ship-passengers-lost-at-sea-_b_6775536.html

Do all of the Disney cruise vessels have this technology?
Mob is an irrational fear I have. If I were to let the fear take control I wouldn't cruise.

 

[ludari]

Interesting article but unless foul play or drunken stupidity was involved I think it's highly unlikely that anyone would just fall off these large cruise ships. Good to know that Disney and other cruise lines have overboard detection systems.

 

[Tonka's Skipper]

I had done some cursory looking into MOB detection systems but could not find conclusive evidence that Disney uses it. [one link] Holland America apparently is rolling out (slowly) a thermal imaging system.

DCL has had a video system on their ships for years and are upgrading to one of the new systems (video/sensor/ heat) on all their vessels. RCCL is also moving to get the new systems. Most other lines do not as of 6 months ago or so. There have been threads on this before, you can find info on the threads.

Regarding the federal law......it has not been enforced to a great extent.

AKK

 

[C6PT7]

Do all of the Disney cruise vessels have this technology?
Mob is an irrational fear I have. If I were to let the fear take control I wouldn't cruise.

That I do not know for sure. The article suggests they do.
Logic would dictate that the dream class ships do have it installed from the shipyard.
As for the magic class..... Shoreside will not give you an accurate and defiant answer, so only speaking to a ships officer on the magic class would confirm this.
My train of thought is that if it is, they would have it on the dream, fantasy and magic at least. The wonder maybe or maybe not as she hasn't had a major drydock, just the usual hull inspection/intereior upgrades.

 

[Kenny1113]

That I do not know for sure. The article suggests they do.
Logic would dictate that the dream class ships do have it installed from the shipyard.
As for the magic class..... Shoreside will not give you an accurate and defiant answer, so only speaking to a ships officer on the magic class would confirm this.
My train of thought is that if it is, they would have it on the dream, fantasy and magic at least. The wonder maybe or maybe not as she hasn't had a major drydock, just the usual hull inspection/intereior upgrades.

Darn! That's the ship we are on.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Dug720]

Darn! That's the ship we are on.

Thanks for the info!

Have you taken nothing else from this thread? Really?

As many of us have pointed out, it is next to impossible to just randomly/accidentally fall off a cruise ship. So unless you're planning to do yourself harm or to get drunk and do something incredibly stupid, YOU WILL BE FINE.

 

[Kenny1113]

Yes. I get that. I still cruise. As I stated before my fear of it is completely irrational. But it is not debilitating-I am still going on my cruise (6 days woohoo!) and will have a great time!

Just, knowing that they had the best technology out there, puts my mind a little more at ease.


And I guess I should clarify, that my fear isn't of an accidental MOB, more of being thrown...

 

[Dug720]

Yes. I get that. I still cruise. As I stated before my fear of it is completely irrational. But it is not debilitating-I am still going on my cruise (6 days woohoo!) and will have a great time!

Just, knowing that they had the best technology out there, puts my mind a little more at ease.


And I guess I should clarify, that my fear isn't of an accidental MOB, more of being thrown...

Even those cases are rare, and if you're conscious you should be able to put up a hell of a fight.

It's really pretty simple. Don't let yourself get into a situation where someone wants to do you harm (the one case I know of where a woman was attacked was on HAL, and the crew member felt like she had insulted his family (and there was pretty solid evidence he wasn't stable anyway)...so just don't curse - and even then she was able to prevent him from throwing her overboard). It's not like people are roving the ship saying "Hmm...who can I throw overboard?"