What did we think of TEEN MOM 2?

Not only did Collard Greens go on with the 'your dad doesn't want to pay' which... NO.... but she went on to respond to Joe's filing by snapping at Isaac as if Isaac had written it, which was like, beyond no. I cannot stand her.

On the after show she was trying to defend that she thinks Joe should work all the time but she shouldn't because "Isaac should be with his mother" and she thinks if they were together Joe would be supporting her. You're not with him, he does not want to support you, you're an adult. She infuriates me with the entitled attitude. He should pay for half of Isaac's needs. He should pay for exactly none of yours, sourpuss.

I don't understand how Chelsea's friends and family even listen to her go on about him anymore. "He just stopped liking me." Nope. He never liked you. Get a clue. How Randy doesn't just hang up on her I don't know.

Three years since she got pregnant and she's accomplished zilch. That takes talent. I too noticed how she's whining about A-dumb and the second question she asks at her big first job (at what, age 20?!) is about if guys come in. She passed pathetic a long, long time ago.

Her saying Aubrey was her best friend was seriously disturbing. She's on her way to becoming Kale's mother, right quick.

Leah I don't get bathing the babies in that mess - the whole thing was confusing. Why bathe them there? What the heck with the new trailer/truck thing? "Our whole marriage, we were together in every decision we made." How long were they married? They bore me. I assumed Leah was asking her parents to pay or not discussing that she'd pay for it with MTV $$.

Janelle is just... oy. Girl needs some intervention or something. I think the $30 is because she has no job. She's got to be getting some money from someplace.
 
I got all excited to see that Reefer had a new hoodie. Then he went back to the skanky green one he's been wearing 24/7 the entire series.

:rotfl2:

Seriously that's what I noticed last night. The girls are same **** different episode & it's starting to get old! None of them seem to be progressing into mature adults!
 
Probably because that isn't the issue. I know many, many twins and Ali's issues are not twin issues. She has something going on and hopefully they can figure it out soon. Honestly, I can't figure out how she has gotten to over a year old (2 now) and no one able to diagnosis her delays.

I have a set of twins myself and I never took for granted when I was pregnant that they would be normal or healthy after sharing a womb. I do believe there is a connection between Ali's issues and being a twin, definately moreso than any genetic problems. You don't think that being in a womb with another fetus can't compromise skeletal development, or brain development for that matter? Look at high order multiples and how many problems they can have. There's a reason.
 
Did Leah have a miscarriage?

Just watched last nights show.

Kail: YOU GO GIRL! Regardless of how Kail got her home, she's maintaining a household, going to school, working and raising her son. She's the primary parent to Isaac. Jo gets him on the weekends, so he needs to be paying her some support. Jo is living with mommy and daddy. The amount is based on his income. Kail had nothing to do with it. If he has a problem with it he can tell the judge why he doesn't want to pay. Cause based on that letter, he came across as the bitter one bringing up Kail's boyfriend. He's saving his money for his rap career. I saw his video on youtube, looks like he's gonna be staying at his folks house for a LONG while!

Janielle: That girl is PATHETIC! I don't feel sorry for that low life. I have no respect for that twit what so ever.

Chelsea: Another twit. She has NO common sense what so ever

Leah: she has never been one of my favorites, so at the beginning of this episode, she was annoying to watch. She had been living in that trailer all this time, so what was the point of complaining now. Then when I saw how she gave her daughters a bath I realized she was 100% correct. Especially considering the fact that Corey only had the truck for 4 months and wanted a new one.
 

D He's saving his money for his rap career. I saw his video on youtube, looks like he's gonna be staying at his folks house for a LONG while!

ha ha I haven't seen it yet, but I might go look at it.Honestly, my first take of why didn't want to pay that much and considering he got busted for pot, I was thinking "yea less money to weed".
 
THIS is why he doesn't want to pay Kail $480 a month for child support

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpQNoIzp0w

Thanks for the link. yea, he should just drop the rap game and smoke some more,lol. Seriously, what was that? yea, HoneyDipp you called it, he'll be at the old homestead for some time cause DANG!

I have nothing against anyone following their dream, but um, that was just bad.
 
Thanks for the link. yea, he should just drop the rap game and smoke some more,lol. Seriously, what was that? yea, HoneyDipp you called it, he'll be at the old homestead for some time cause DANG!

I have nothing against anyone following their dream, but um, that was just bad.

I would also like to add that he mentions in the video wanting to spend his money on a chick he picked up in a convenience store, but he REFUSES to pay his child support? :sad2:
 
Seriously, Reefer in that green hoodie week after week was like seeing Gary all over again in his AERO shirt. Over, and over, and over. Yeah Gary you're so cool that you have an AERO shirt.

I'm no law expert but that letter Jo wrote was a bunch of immature BS. "She needs a better job because she had one but lost it because she couldn't work with her boyfriend." Ok that's irrelevant & childish, and a judge would see that, I would hope. She's in college FT you idiot, I think a judge would take that into consideration & see why she only has a small PT job. I hope the judge throws the book at him & makes him pay every cent he's supposed to, and calls him out for writing such a stupid whiny letter.
 
Seriously, Reefer in that green hoodie week after week was like seeing Gary all over again in his AERO shirt. Over, and over, and over. Yeah Gary you're so cool that you have an AERO shirt.

I'm no law expert but that letter Jo wrote was a bunch of immature BS. "She needs a better job because she had one but lost it because she couldn't work with her boyfriend." Ok that's irrelevant & childish, and a judge would see that, I would hope. She's in college FT you idiot, I think a judge would take that into consideration & see why she only has a small PT job. I hope the judge throws the book at him & makes him pay every cent he's supposed to, and calls him out for writing such a stupid whiny letter.
The lazy twit is taking like two classes. Though I don't see why a judge would take that into consideration any more than Joe's rap career. Kale has to pay her share - it's no one's problem but hers if she can't.

His argument is her share should be more and that she's not working enough to pay it and wants him to. That's a valid argument. If the 63/36% breakdown was based on time with each parent, then he's got to argue a different way, but her going to college shouldn't matter at all. She still has to find a way to pay her own bills and it's not from Joe's pocket.

That's what she sounded like on the aftershow - she said Joe works all the time but she like, didn't want to because she wanted to be with Isaac. La de da, get a job, Kale.

I have a set of twins myself and I never took for granted when I was pregnant that they would be normal or healthy after sharing a womb. I do believe there is a connection between Ali's issues and being a twin, definately moreso than any genetic problems. You don't think that being in a womb with another fetus can't compromise skeletal development, or brain development for that matter? Look at high order multiples and how many problems they can have. There's a reason.
Except she's got no skeletal or brain issues anyone can find besides the smaller optic nerve and apparently the geneticist believes her to have a form of dwarfism, so seems likely.
 
Except she's got no skeletal or brain issues anyone can find besides the smaller optic nerve and apparently the geneticist believes her to have a form of dwarfism, so seems likely.

The optic nerve is part of brain development. They have had the baby's chromosomes tested and didn't find any dwarfism. What other test would they do to determine if she's a dwarf? I'd love to see a current photo of the girls, are there any on the net? This was all over a year ago, how is Ali doing now? Is she walking? Is she not growing as tall as her sister?
 
The optic nerve is part of brain development. They have had the baby's chromosomes tested and didn't find any dwarfism. What other test would they do to determine if she's a dwarf? I'd love to see a current photo of the girls, are there any on the net? This was all over a year ago, how is Ali doing now? Is she walking? Is she not growing as tall as her sister?

The size of the optic nerve is part of brain anatomy.

They didn't test for dwarfism, there is no such test. They tested for whichever specific dysplasia the geneticist suspected based on looking at her and her scans and etc. That didn't turn out to be the case but that doesn't rule out the umpteen other types.

They can test for any they have the known markers for but they're expensive tests. Hence, as the woman from the geneticist's office told her on the phone, they want to wait a year and see her again. They want to see if it becomes more obvious that it's one form of dwarfism that they can then test to confirm the presence of.
 
The size of the optic nerve is part of brain anatomy.

They didn't test for dwarfism, there is no such test. They tested for whichever specific dysplasia the geneticist suspected based on looking at her and her scans and etc. That didn't turn out to be the case but that doesn't rule out the umpteen other types.

They can test for any they have the known markers for but they're expensive tests. Hence, as the woman from the geneticist's office told her on the phone, they want to wait a year and see her again. They want to see if it becomes more obvious that it's one form of dwarfism that they can then test to confirm the presence of.


http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/dwarfism/DS01012/DSECTION=tests-and-diagnosis
 

Yes? :confused3 That's exactly what they're doing. Hence the scans, the discussions, the geneticist, etc. They believe it to be dwarfism, from what we know. They can't yet pinpoint it - as they said last ep, they want to see her again in a year to see how she's growing. As in your link, many are visually identifiable.

They're hoping it will become more so as the dysplasia she thought it was by looking at the baby and her records, it was not. Maybe if she was seen by someone with more experience they'd have nailed it but the geneticist took her best shot (and if you googled what she'd thought, you can see what led to that guess).

Maybe it's not dwarfism, maybe it's NOS, but according to what the specialists have said, appears to be.
 





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