Weird experience at Jollywood last night

[DisneyMom93]

That’s the thing at the time the picture is taken, the reason is not known……….. such as in OP’s story

What would be a nefarious reason for taking a pic of a service dog all dressed up for the holidays at Disney World?

I think it was pretty obvious why she took the pic. A dog was all dressed up for the holidays.

 

[DisneyMom93]

No one is saying they deserve more of an expectation of privacy. If someone was walking their dog in an area of Disney which allows dogs those dogs shouldn’t haven’t random people trying to take stealth photos of it either. Service dog or not.

Well, I guess everyone is going to have different opinions about it. Etiquette or personal preference is going to vary.

There is no expectation of privacy for a dog in public.

 

[elvispursley]

Depends on the reason. But it’s out in public. Maybe they want to buy the exact same model so they take a pic.

And if it’s all decorated for the holidays or a party etc it’s probably obvious that’s the reason they are taking a photo of it.

I can see both points as I do thing it's a little sketch to be taking pics of people's strollers, wheelchairs, etc. But that's me. I know we've certainly asked individuals about a device (thinking of a scooter cover we saw). When we saw the owner, we asked him about it. But I can certainly see that it is in public and if no one is around....

If the wheelchair or stroller is all decorated and parked somewhere people can take pics of it. If the dog is on the ground at the end of a leash and not being held by the person someone can take a pic of it. It’s not an invasion of privacy.

I understand that people may not WANT the pics being taken for whatever reason they have. But there are rules for what you can and cannot do in public and there is no rule that you can’t take a pic of a service dog out in public. Distracting it, calling it, or approaching it is a definite NO.

I personally don’t take pics of service dogs in public so it’s not like I am defending it for myself.

Agree that one shouldn't take pics of kids. I actually have a huge issue with the way WDW does pics at Enchanted Tales with Belle. I was really appalled that when I took my niece to this attraction (having only boys, never did this before) we had a bunch of kids on our photo pass from the experience. Knowing that she's on others is cringe.

I do not agree with your statement that if the dog is being held, don't take a pic. But if the dog is laying down on its leash, it's ok? First off, my dog, as @lanejudy stated, a service dog is considered part of me. My dog also weights 65lbs so there is no way for me to hold her. When we are waiting in a queue, she is trained to lay down. This is not an open invitation for someone to take her picture. Why do people feel the need to have this picture? To me, it's creepy. This is why you will always lot of times see "NO PHOTOS" on patches to service dog vests. It's a thing and most people I know who have a service dog do not want the dog's photo taken. And if you feel the need to take a picture (not you personally, ASK!!! Otherwise just admire the dog.

 

[elvispursley]

Well, I guess everyone is going to have different opinions about it. Etiquette or personal preference is going to vary.

There is no expectation of privacy for a dog in public.

I will say it again, a service dog is not just a "dog in public". It is serving a medical purpose. If I'm in public with my non-service dog, have at it! We will gladly pose. But if one is with their service dog, please don't.

 

[DisneyMom93]

I do not agree with your statement that if the dog is being held, don't take a pic. But if the dog is laying down on its leash, it's ok? First off, my dog, as @lanejudy stated, a service dog is considered part of me. My dog also weights 65lbs so there is no way for me to hold her.

I meant because if a person is holding the dog then the person would be in the photo.

 

[lanejudy]

I meant because if a person is holding the dog then the person would be in the photo.

You wouldn’t take a picture of someone’s foot or hand using the excuse “it’s not their face.” The service dog is legally considered to be one-and-the-same with the person. Again, please extend the same courtesy as provided to the person; do not take pictures without asking first.

I am unable to discern whether a random person pointing a camera in my direction is focused on me, my hat, my shoes, or the dog standing in front of me. Only the picture-taker knows what is the focus and what isn’t.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

What would be a nefarious reason for taking a pic of a service dog all dressed up for the holidays at Disney World?

I think it was pretty obvious why she took the pic. A dog was all dressed up for the holidays.

You want me to list all the nefarious reasons someone would take a picture of a service dog all dressed up at Disney world? This was a service animals…… should we just go around and take pictures of random people dressed up for a holiday?

 

[TPG0235]

I'm sure the woman's hissy fit was more troubling / confusing / alerting to the dog than the picture taking.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I can see both points as I do thing it's a little sketch to be taking pics of people's strollers, wheelchairs, etc. But that's me. I know we've certainly asked individuals about a device (thinking of a scooter cover we saw). When we saw the owner, we asked him about it. But I can certainly see that it is in public and if no one is around....


Agree that one shouldn't take pics of kids. I actually have a huge issue with the way WDW does pics at Enchanted Tales with Belle. I was really appalled that when I took my niece to this attraction (having only boys, never did this before) we had a bunch of kids on our photo pass from the experience. Knowing that she's on others is cringe.

I do not agree with your statement that if the dog is being held, don't take a pic. But if the dog is laying down on its leash, it's ok? First off, my dog, as @lanejudy stated, a service dog is considered part of me. My dog also weights 65lbs so there is no way for me to hold her. When we are waiting in a queue, she is trained to lay down. This is not an open invitation for someone to take her picture. Why do people feel the need to have this picture? To me, it's creepy. This is why you will always lot of times see "NO PHOTOS" on patches to service dog vests. It's a thing and most people I know who have a service dog do not want the dog's photo taken. And if you feel the need to take a picture (not you personally, ASK!!! Otherwise just admire the dog.

I agree the way they do picture at enhanced belle is a huge issue and very problematic. I don’t know why Disney does it that way. It’s extremely disgusting and creepy. Disney needs to find a solution to this problematic situation.

Regarding the service animals pictures, what do people even do with these pictures? Do other people really care about seeing the pictures, or just pretend to do so. Do they print out the pictures of some random persons service animal and look back on them? It’s creepy to think what people do with the pictures and at the time you had no ideal if the person is in frame or not. Just all around creepy

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I will say it again, a service dog is not just a "dog in public". It is serving a medical purpose. If I'm in public with my non-service dog, have at it! We will gladly pose. But if one is with their service dog, please don't.

I have to disagree with you here. As the prior posts has shown there is no need for a service animal to wear A vest and the only way someone at Disney would know it’s a service animal is by virtue of it being there since only service animals are allowed. It’s better that this distinction doesn’t come into play

 

[elvispursley]

I have to disagree with you here. As the prior posts has shown there is no need for a service animal to wear A vest and the only way someone at Disney would know it’s a service animal is by virtue of it being there since only service animals are allowed. It’s better that this distinction doesn’t come into play

Sorry, I don’t agree with you here. Sure, the service animal doesn’t have to be vested. But places like WDW have stories about all the “fake” service dogs at the parks. I vest my dog because 1) it states she is a service dog and “NO TOUCHY”. Even with the vest, I get all kinds of people who approach and want to interact and pet her. I can only imagine if she wasn’t vested when in public.

2) she knows when I vest her, she needs to be focused and ready to work. Other handlers may have different ways for their dog to know how to focus when in public, my dog’s way is by wearing a vest.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

You wouldn’t take a picture of someone’s foot or hand using the excuse “it’s not their face.” The service dog is legally considered to be one-and-the-same with the person. Again, please extend the same courtesy as provided to the person; do not take pictures without asking first.

I am unable to discern whether a random person pointing a camera in my direction is focused on me, my hat, my shoes, or the dog standing in front of me. Only the picture-taker knows what is the focus and what isn’t.

Just wanted to add that the random person taking the pictures does not deserve the benefit of the doubt either

 

[atthebeachclub]

The law in this scenario is firmly on your side. Do I want people taking photos of my family in public? No. But are they legally entitled to do so? Yes, 100%, absolutely. If you don’t like those rules you will have to choose not to go out in public. And in my opinion…that’s that.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Sorry, I don’t agree with you here. Sure, the service animal doesn’t have to be vested. But places like WDW have stories about all the “fake” service dogs at the parks. I vest my dog because 1) it states she is a service dog and “NO TOUCHY”. Even with the vest, I get all kinds of people who approach and want to interact and pet her. I can only imagine if she wasn’t vested when in public.

2) she knows when I vest her, she needs to be focused and ready to work. Other handlers may have different ways for their dog to know how to focus when in public, my dog’s way is by wearing a vest.

So every dog in Disney parks is a service animal just by virtue of it being there. Within the parks there isn’t a vest that is needed because it has to be a service animal. Lots of people don’t know this though. What I disagreed with is making these distinction such as allowing pictures to be taken of non service animals and service animals. I don’t think either should be socially acceptable.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

The law in this scenario is firmly on your side. Do I want people taking photos of my family in public? No. But are they legally entitled to do so? Yes, 100%, absolutely. If you don’t like those rules you will have to choose not to go out in public. And in my opinion…that’s that.

So Disney is actually private property, I think people keep forgetting that part since it is “open to the public”. If Disney wanted to they can prohibit this type of stealth photos and ban offenders from the property.

 

[elvispursley]

So every dog in Disney parks is a service animal just by virtue of it being there. Within the parks there isn’t a vest that is needed because it has to be a service animal. Lots of people don’t know this though. What I disagreed with is making these distinction such as allowing pictures to be taken of non service animals and service animals. I don’t think either should be socially acceptable.

Agree—don’t understand why you’d take
Pictures of random people or their animals, regardless of where you happen to be

 

[2vets]

The very fact that you “covertly” tried to take a picture is very telling. It would seem that subconsciously you knew it wasn’t the right thing to do or you wouldn’t have been “covert” about it. Yes they are in public and dressed up, but would you want a stranger “covertly” taking a picture of you? My guess is no. Would you have taken a picture of the woman? If she was pushing a child in a stroller that was decorated would you have taken a picture? If the answer to those questions is “no, not without asking permission” then that courtesy should be extended to the service animal as well.

Yes, her reaction sounds over the top. But as a PP mentions it could be related to a disability. Regardless, your actions caused her reaction, like it or not.

As previously stated, it was not that I thought I was doing something wrong or that would upset another person. I was walking by and didn’t want to interrupt her or distract her service animal. Never in a million years did I anticipate that I’d upset someone so much, on purpose (ofc) or otherwise, but it’s clear this is very upsetting to some.

ETA - I was not snapping pics of random people, or even the front of the dog. It was basically sweater/blinky collar that I wanted to snap, and just to send to my sister to show the fanciest outfit of the night. I’m sure some of you have good reason to assume the worst, but in my case, this was the first and last time I’d do this. Yes, I “learned my lesson,” about this clearly heated subject. I just would have preferred not to learn it at extreme screaming volume from 8 or 10 feet away.

I’ve gotten my answer and appreciate it.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Per @elvispursley’s comments below and as previously stated, it was not that I thought I was doing something wrong or that would upset another person. I was walking by and didn’t want to interrupt her or distract her service animal. Never in a million years did I anticipate that I’d upset someone so much, on purpose (ofc) or otherwise, but it’s clear this is very upsetting to some.

I’ve gotten my answer and appreciate it.

What were you planning on doing with the photo btw, it wasn’t clear in the original post?

I think you also hit on a hot topic item so don’t take everything personally, it’s just an issue we all face with the smart phones and social media

 

[TXDisneyFan1]

The very fact that you “covertly” tried to take a picture is very telling. It would seem that subconsciously you knew it wasn’t the right thing to do or you wouldn’t have been “covert” about it. Yes they are in public and dressed up, but would you want a stranger “covertly” taking a picture of you? My guess is no. Would you have taken a picture of the woman? If she was pushing a child in a stroller that was decorated would you have taken a picture? If the answer to those questions is “no, not without asking permission” then that courtesy should be extended to the service animal as well.

Yes, her reaction sounds over the top. But as a PP mentions it could be related to a disability. Regardless, your actions caused her reaction, like it or not.

I could understand this response if the OP was taking a picture of someone's child...this was a dog. A dog. Do you really think the dog is going to care? He was not wearing a vest to show he was working. Any person who would react this way to someone taking a picture of their dog, I would argue, has other psychological issues.

 

[elvispursley]

I could understand this response if the OP was taking a picture of someone's child...this was a dog. A dog. Do you really think the dog is going to care? He was not wearing a vest to show he was working. Any person who would react this way to someone taking a picture of their dog, I would argue, has other psychological issues.

Unknown what her underlying issues are but could be the reason for the service dog. Regardless, I feel bad the OP’s night was ruined.