Weight Watchers experiences

nkereina

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Curious to hear from others who have done or are on Weight Watchers. What was your experience? Would you do it again? What plan did you follow at the time (Points Plus, Freestyle, etc.)

I recently downloaded the iTrackBites app which is essentially a generic version of Weight Watchers at a cheaper price point. It lets you choose which plan to follow so I'm interested to know opinions on Points Plus vs. Freestyle vs. any other plan Weight Watchers has had out there.

Thanks all!
 
I used PointsPlus a few years back and lost 30ish pounds. It worked great for me...just didn't seem like I was "dieting."

I would go back to it - right now I'm in my 6th month of pregnancy so I may have to in a few months! :)
 
I used it post pregnancy twice. Lost 17 and 15 pounds respectively. Not the new programme—the old points plus programme. It was effective. I liked that there was room in the plan for everything—I could still have my Sunday night pizza or a piece of cake.

As I understand it, the new plan has more “free” items, but the “bad” stuff like bread, Cake, etc are highly punitive when consumed. Someone on another thread this week said a bagel is like a day’s worth of points. If that’s true, the new program wouldn’t be for me. I don’t think it’s sustainable.

Having said all that, I’m lifetime now. I don’t weigh in monthly. I do think loosely in terms of points and maintain balance and moderation in my diet.

I don’t like the notion of tracking consumption for a lifetime. I think it places an unhealthy focus on food. I also don’t like that they charge you if you are above goal weight. Don’t like the punitive aspect of that. If they truly believed in their programme, lifetime would mean just that. They’d stand with you if you go over goal.

At the end of the day, it’s based on sound nutrition, but I also think the programme encourages unhealthy attitudes and obsession around food.
 
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Thank you both for the feedback. Out of curiosity, how long did it take you to lose the weight you each lost? I've had great rapid success following the keto diet in the past, but didn't find it sustainable for me. I'm assuming weight loss through the weight watchers method will come at a slower pace.
 

I did it years ago and lost the weight I wanted too.
Through the years I have put that weight back on, plus some.
I tried the newest version- Freestyle but it is seems slow going so I'm just going to go back to a low carb diet. I find it much easier to eliminate carbs then I do counting and keeping track of points.
 
As I understand it, the new plan has more “free” items, but the “bad” stuff like bread, Cake, etc are highly punitive when consumed. Someone on another thread this week said a bagel is like a day’s worth of points. If that’s true, the new program wouldn’t be for me. I don’t think it’s sustainable.
Yep, I tried the new program when they switched over and only last a few days - I was SO angry when they switched the app from PointsPlus to SmartPoints. Wish they would have given an option...I guess that just means a 3rd-party app (like the one OP is using) will be getting my money instead of Weight Watchers themselves. :confused3
Thank you both for the feedback. Out of curiosity, how long did it take you to lose the weight you each lost? I've had great rapid success following the keto diet in the past, but didn't find it sustainable for me. I'm assuming weight loss through the weight watchers method will come at a slower pace.
I'm not totally sure but I think it was around 6 months. They want you to lose 1-2 pounds per week so I was closer to the 1 pound/week number. I remember the weight just falling off at first and then stalling in the weeks/months after, which I think is pretty normal...I also wasn't as diligent about it toward the end because I was already at a number I hadn't dreamed I'd be at...:confused3
 
Love it. Love it so much. Joined January 17, 2017. Really like the smart points back to the scale program. Did not like freestyle so left in December to continue to follow smart points on iTrackBites. My husband joined with me. We have been following for about fifteen and a half months. So far he has lost 70 pounds and I have lost 100.
 
Just read that WW is offering free membership to teens 13-17 this summer. Now I’ve completely lost any respect for the company I may have had. Disgusting to lure teens into the cycle of dieting and weight gain.

Google WW and disordered eating. Lots pops up.

Bottom line. Everything in moderation plus an active lifestyle. WW sucks.
 
I joined last year and lost 20 lbs in 6 months on the Smartpoints system. It was effective and worked to help me get back down to a healthy weight without being restrictie, but I agree with PP that I didn't like the idea of tracking every day for the rest of my life. So once I met my goal I stopped using it and am working on maintaining through habits WW helped me develop.

The generic line from WW is that you can expect to lose 1-2 lbs per week with the program.

ETA: One thing I found that I didn't like was a reliance on low-fat or non-fat versions of foods (or low sugar/sugar-free) instead of healthy whole foods in moderation. There's a whole lot of extra processing that goes into making certain things fat or sugar free.
 
Just read that WW is offering free membership to teens 13-17 this summer. Now I’ve completely lost any respect for the company I may have had. Disgusting to lure teens into the cycle of dieting and weight gain.

I agree, and think promotion of positive body image is important. But obesity is an epidemic in America and the ages of those affected are younger and younger. I know for me, it was much easier for me to lose weight as a teenager than it is for me now in my 30s. I think its good for a concerned overweight teen to nip it in the bud now and get on the healthy track before it gets too far out of control and becomes problematic down the road. But I do agree there is a fine line.
 
ETA: One thing I found that I didn't like was a reliance on low-fat or non-fat versions of foods (or low sugar/sugar-free) instead of healthy whole foods in moderation. There's a whole lot of extra processing that goes into making certain things fat or sugar free.

Good point. What's the baseline philosophy of WW anyway? I notice points all over the place... are they promoting a balance of carbs/fats/proteins? Is it primarily low fat? I'm used to high fat/moderate protein/low carb so just trying to get an understanding of where general foods will fall in the point allowance.
 
Ive been doing the new Freestyle program since March 1st and am down 22 pounds since then. Honestly it’s been super easy for me to follow. But I had gotten to the point where I knew I needed to do something different and I believe getting to that point mentally is just as important as following the plan. I still have about 25 pounds to go so I’ll continue with WW as long as it’s still working for me (plus I prepaid for 6 months)
 
Good point. What's the baseline philosophy of WW anyway? I notice points all over the place... are they promoting a balance of carbs/fats/proteins? Is it primarily low fat? I'm used to high fat/moderate protein/low carb so just trying to get an understanding of where general foods will fall in the point allowance.
I'm no expert by any means, but my experience on Smartpoints was that whole, fresh fruits and veggies, lean proteins, and complex carbs in moderation were all lower points in the system. This was great because it encourage me to eat a lot of fruits and veggies and things like sliced turkey.

High fats and sugars were definitely very high in points. So, any food that normally has high fat or sugar but has been reduced also goes down in points. I believe they go based off the nutrition label and don't take into account all the processing and extra ingredients (that's where you would need to ask an expert).

In the SP program there was no way to check the balance of carbs/fat/protein, only the total points for everything. I use My Fitness Pal now on occasion and I really like seeing the balance of the macros.

For the short term to get the extra weight off, I thought it was an excellent program and it helped me build a lot of healthy habits. So I use what I've learned to maintain a healthier weight without trying to cut around any 'rules' with things like non-fat cream cheese (which is just awful, anyway).
 
I think it’s one of the best programs out there because it is based on real food and is truly sustainable for life. It gets you to focus on eating lots of fruits and veggies, healthy grains and lean proteins and water which is what our bodies need most.

Unfortunately, I am a slooowwww loser and only lose 1/4 of a lb. a week which gets frustrating and I wind up having days where I just don’t track and then wind up losing nothing. It’s my own fault and I know it because the plan definitely works. Consistency...as with any diet is key.

And the benefit of not dropping 10lbs fast is that it is easier to keep it off. I just have to remember I didn’t gain 10lbs overnight so there is no reason it should come off overnight either.
 
I used PointsPlus a few years ago and lost 30 pounds at about 1.5 pounds per week. I thought it was a great plan.
 
Loving Freestyle. I'm doing online at this time will switch to meetings soon. I'm down 25 since Jan. Planning is still the key.

Kae
 
I've done the Points Plus program and the South Beach Diet, and now the new Freestyle program since Jan. The Freestyle is the only one where I've actually lost weight - a whole dress size. I'm fitting back into clothes that wouldn't close by a full 2 inches and I was about to donate. :cheer2: So, I'm sticking to it. :thumbsup2

When I was on South Beach, it is sooooo restrictive, especially on the first 2 phases that I felt I was being PUNISHED :( while on that diet. I did it because it really does keep one's blood sugar levels lower. Yet, I couldn't wait to get to Phase 3 so I could eat more of a variety of items. Then one day, it dawned on me that Phase 3 is basically the same thing, just a few more foods, but it is maintenance level, and they call it a "lifestyle" not really a diet, so I'd NEVER be off those foods and would still feeling punished all the time. :headache: :badpc: I never did lose weight. I quit that "lifestyle/diet." :crazy2:

I am grateful that South Beach taught me the real 4 food groups, (not the 4 food groups taught in grade school,) but to recognize the difference between proteins, carbs (both simple & complex,) fats & fiber, and HOW they METABOLIZE in the body and why & how we should be eating them in better/different RATIOS than we've been traditionally taught here in the U.S. in the last several decades post World War II which is the pushing of processed food era. The U.S has the fastest growing rate of diabetes and obesity than any other country. It is due to how we eat too much processed foods, too many carbs and larger portion sizes, not genetics.

I tried Weight Watchers after that with their old Points Plus program. But while they attribute points to foods & recipes, :thumbsup2 they were too carb heavy back then. They didn't understand there is an actual science with data of how CARBS metabolize into FAT and is stored in the body. It wasn't a diabetic friendly diet, except to promote loading a LOT of artificial sweeteners for replacement for sugar in one hand, while loading into the mouth too many carbs with the other hand. Back then protein foods had higher points than many high carb items. AND every. single. food. ingredient. was. given. points. :headache: So every single ingredient in a recipe had to be counted. It was too easy to go over the daily points allotted and feel like a failure. :(

Back in January, I checked their new Freestyle Program as the commercials were advertising all the new "Zero Points foods." I actually wasn't interested in doing it. I was just curious and only wanted to read what the Zero Foods are. I also knew that Oprah had heavily invested in the new program, literally, by investing mega-milllions of dollars into the program. So she has helped change their program quite a bit. I found that WW finally understands the science of how foods metabolize in the body & a better ratio of protein to carbs to fats to fiber better. :thumbsup2

Although some of their zero points foods items is a bit ridiculous. Zero points does NOT mean zero calories. Some people who haven't really researched the new program well or understand the new concept will think 98% lean chicken breasts being 0 points means they can eat 5 of them for one meal and it will be okay. :rolleyes: No, that is NOT how the program works. There will always be massively stupid people, so I guess they had choose to create a diet regardless, that more people with hopefully enough common sense & intelligence will be on it and know that is not the intention of making some foods zero points. On the Points Plus program, if a slice of cheesecake is the same points as a salad loaded with a lot of ingredients in which ALL the ingredients had to be added up, and the points were about the same points as the cheesecake, after a looong day of counting points and depriving oneself all day, most people would eat the cheesecake - and end up not losing weight or being healthy. :headache:

With the new Freestyle program, one can eat everything one wants (in proper proportions.) Usually after eating and getting full on the Zero Points foods. One of their mottos is, "No one ever got fat gorging on fruits & vegetables all day. So load up on them for ZERO points." :thumbsup2 So, instead of starving oneself all day and then wolfing down a full cheesecake slice worth 9 points, one eats a Zero Points 98% fat free chicken breast on a big salad, with 2 Tbs of fat-free dressing. Only the dressing has points, about 1-3 points. One feels full, and then eats maybe 3-4 bites of the cheesecake and feels satisfied with that amount of bites and can push the plate away. They've stayed within their daily points allotment for the day, OR if they've splurged into their 35 extra points everyone is allotted each week for the 9 points cheesecake. AND best of all, they don't feel like a failure for going over points and then quitting the program. :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 :thumbsup2 The psychology is very important. I think that's the biggest thing Oprah probably brought to the changes. Having been on every diet in the world and failing them and feeling deprived, she understood that is the quickest way to quitting a program.

I read a blogger that recently summed up WW's new Freestyle philosophy. I actually like it. It is sooo much better than South Beach, which never had any satisfying food combos. Or Points Plus, in which ALL the food has points - especially the very necessary healthy foods one needs. :thumbsup2

"You need to remember, in Weight Watchers, we talk about what will satisfy you vs what you want. So some days, maybe only a really good piece of sharp cheddar will work for you & others, you can be satisfied by some fat free shredded cheddar. Some days, maybe a 99% fat free Hebrew National will do the trick, & others, you want a full fat Hebrew National. You learn to recognize what you need, what you want, and what will satisfy."​


For me, I will always be on a primarily lean, higher protein based diet as I am genetically predisposed to diabetes and need to keep weight off so as not to become diabetic. A sluggish metabolism due to thyroid disease is not helping. (Dropping a dress size, my Dr. told me my blood sugar levels have dropped to below the dangerous "pre-diabetes" level I had been at. :yay: ) And I have certain food allergies/intolerances that make being on any diet probably too restrictive in available food choices.

I have been looking at more 1-3 point Weight Watcher food choices & recipes to add on as sides, snacks & treats, while not quite being on the WW program. I don't pay to be a member or part of the program. (They are still too much into artificial sweeteners and processed foods, especially luncheon meats.) What is great about WW being such a popular program is thank god for Google. I can look up the points of anything I do eat or look for better substitutions other people have already found. There is usually a blog entry, a website, a message board post or Pinterest pin somewhere that has the points I am looking for and better Freestyle substitutions. :thumbsup2

There will always be certain foods that I can/will not give up, like my Coffeemate creamer in the morning. A saying of WW is, "I'd rather eat the "points" than give up ___," which was part of the problem of the Points Plus program when cheesecake was the same points as a healthy meal. Coffeemate satisfies me in a way that almond/rice/soy/coconut milk and the fat-free Coffeemate does not. :crazy2: And I've even seen WW people recommend some weird protein powders to add to coffee. Uh NO! :scared: I now mix fat-free Coffeemate with regular Coffeemate and have halved my Coffeemate points and get better taste.

And thanks to Trader Joes, I finally found an acceptable substitute my NYC thin-crust pizza which is 7-9 points per slice. I originally wasn't giving that up, and used to prefer to "eat the points." I used to eat 2 slices at once. But, 14 points is almost 2/3 of my daily points - and that was just for ONE meal. :( Googling, I discovered TJ Lavash bread. It's cracker thin and crisps up, giving me the thin-crust taste & texture I have to have. Half a slice is 1 Freestyle SP. TJ actually has a good pizza sauce. 2 Tbs is 1 Freestyle SP. TJ also has a fantastic Lite shredded mozzarella cheese that melts beautifully and tastes like real, full fat mozzarella, as it isn't loaded with artificial, plastic-y stuff, but made with part skim milk. I add extra cheese so it's 2 Freestyle SPs. Total: 4 Freestyle SPs for one thin-crispy crust pizza slice now. :cool1: I usually have 2 slices, so I've halved my total points for pizza. :cheer2:Any dinner for me is rarely over 7-8 points.
 
I joined under smartpoints and lost almost 40 lbs in about 9 months. When they switched to freestyle I started gaining weight or maintaining weekly. I started double tracking points vs calories and it was all over the place- I could eat quite a few calories for very few points and a lot of points for very few calories. Freestyle just doesn’t work for me as far as weight loss. It could work for maintenance for me, but I still want to lose more. Now I’ve just been tracking calories with my fitness pal. I think I’ll try that itrackbites app- I didnt know you could choose what ww system you want to use.
 
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