Weight Watchers Chat

[CdnBuzzFan]

The yogurt sounds like it could be a problem Jess, cut back and see what happens. Why is there this discrepansy in points calculation? I'm really miffed about the cooking with fruit too. I mean why weren't these specific guidelines spelled out?

Thanks for the advice, Steph, but I cant cut back just yet -- my fridge is full of it and I dont want to pitch any of it out so I have to eat it. I've just adjusted my points this week by taking some out of my 49 to compensate for the extas but I've been counting it as 1 point for months! The discrepancy has someting to do with sugar alcohol which the calculator cannot consider so for things like this, we're supposed to refer to the information in the books. Still ticks me off though!

 

[sjms71]

Either way I typically only do interval training on the treadmill but this past sunday I decided to incorporate weight training just using free weights and an exercise ball...let me tell you my thighs are so sore I can barely walk up and down stairs or sit down!

, I did the 30 day shred and the other day I was upstairs with DD and I started walking down the stairs backwards. DD was just looking at me like, mom what are you doing. I said to her my legs hurt so bad I can't walk down the stairs .

 

[k_null81]

, I did the 30 day shred and the other day I was upstairs with DD and I started walking down the stairs backwards. DD was just looking at me like, mom what are you doing. I said to her my legs hurt so bad I can't walk down the stairs .

Hmmm...I may need to try that...might get weird looks at work though but then again I'm one of the only people that uses the stairs and we are on the 2nd floor of 18 floor building...lol

I still can't believe how sore my thighs are...I did some upper body on Sunday and I was sore but nothing like my legs...

 

[sjms71]

Thanks for the advice, Steph, but I cant cut back just yet -- my fridge is full of it and I dont want to pitch any of it out so I have to eat it. I've just adjusted my points this week by taking some out of my 49 to compensate for the extas but I've been counting it as 1 point for months! The discrepancy has someting to do with sugar alcohol which the calculator cannot consider so for things like this, we're supposed to refer to the information in the books. Still ticks me off though!

Yeah, Just adjust your points until you can "downsize" your yogurt . What kind is it? I'll have to pass that info onto my other WW friends about the fruit. Thanks for letting us know.

Hmmm...I may need to try that...might get weird looks at work though but then again I'm one of the only people that uses the stairs and we are on the 2nd floor of 18 floor building...lol

I still can't believe how sore my thighs are...I did some upper body on Sunday and I was sore but nothing like my legs...

Yes, that would probably look funny at work, it did when I did it at home apparently . Even when I was sitting on the sofa and the cat jumped on my lap, I practically went through the roof they hurt so bad. It will get better after a few days.

 

[disneychick0412]

Hello everyone!!

So far I have lost about 10 pounds on WW. I haven't started doing it the new PointsPlus way. One reason is because our meeting room has not had the new starter kit books since the very first meeting after PointsPlus was introduced, and even then I don't think they had very many.
Is this something that is a problem in other areas?

Also, are you all having success doing it this way?? Are you finding it harder or easier? Change makes me nervous, but I guess I will try it and see what happens.

Does e-tools have the point values that the books have? So maybe I don't really need the books??

Thanks in advance for the help!!

 

[mackeysmom]

Also, are you all having success doing it this way?? Are you finding it harder or easier? Change makes me nervous, but I guess I will try it and see what happens.

I think I've been on almost every version of the Weight Watchers programs since the mid-80's

I am absolutely LOVING this new version of the program. This is the first time I am actually excited about my weight loss program. I'm in my fifth week and haven't lost any steam yet.

It isn't (in my opinion, at least) too different from the previous program and am actually surprised at a lot of the backlash I've seen on the "official" Weight Watchers message boards. The basic concept is the same - you have a number of points per day and it is your discretion as to how you use them. I trust the people behind the "science" of the program to have done the research to ensure that I can eat the extra fruit and still lose weight.

Good Luck

 

[robinb]

Paid my dues to join the biggest loser at work today. I will not only now be accountable to myself, the disboards, my husband, but also my team at school. Too bad my earlier weight loss won't count.

That's OK! I think those Biggest Loser challenges are really great. I was thinking of joining the one put on by our local TV station. I would never be a winner because I don't have a gigantic amount to lose and I also lose very slowly but it might be fun for me to track my weight loss there too. I just need to catch up on the two Biggest Loser episodes I have missed so far.

Hi everyone,
Had my WI today. Up 1.2 I know where it came from but I'm still miffed at myself. I seem to be averaging about a half pound loss a month. I just try to keep telling myself "at least overall, it's still going in the right direction."
Any advice from the old timers, since I'm still relatively new?
Thanks!!

No advise, but {{hugs}}. Some of us are just SLOW Losers. I am one of them. I lose an average of about 1 lb per month with at least one weigh in per month UP. It can be frustrating losing just 12-15 lbs per year but I weigh less than when I started and I feel better about myself. I just keep on plugging along. Feel free to plug along with me .

I'm sooo mad! I found out yesterday that my yogurt, which is 1 point according to the points calculator, is actually TWO POINTS according to the info in the pocket guide and the food companion. TWO POINTS!!!

Why the heck would it be two points? That just doesn't make an sense.

I also found out that if you make something with fruit in it (like a pie) that you're supposed to count the fruit points! That probably means that my 3 point blueberry banana pancakes may not actually be 3 points either!

Yes. When you make a RECIPE using fruits and veggies you are supposed to add them to the recipe builder so it can calculate the points on the carbs in the food. I call BS on that one and won't do it. Of course, with an attitude like that no wonder I lose weight so slowly .

Does e-tools have the point values that the books have? So maybe I don't really need the books??

Congratulations on your great weight loss! Yes, eTools has everything you need. If you have a smart phone you probably don't even need to buy a calculator .

 

[MiniGirl]

I'm sooo mad! I found out yesterday that my yogurt, which is 1 point according to the points calculator, is actually TWO POINTS according to the info in the pocket guide and the food companion. TWO POINTS!!! I usually eat two yogurts a day (sometimes 3 -- I really like yogurt). So, everyday, I've been eating 2-3 extra points. That works out to at least 7 extra points per week! The scale hasn't been working in my favour lately. I was thinking that I was eating too much fruit but maybe this is why.

I also found out that if you make something with fruit in it (like a pie) that you're supposed to count the fruit points! That probably means that my 3 point blueberry banana pancakes may not actually be 3 points either!

Actually someone mentioned this in my meeting the other day. The leader said to go by the number on the points calculator. She said the pocket guide and food companion are accurate, but they are averages. In fact, she said that we should use the calculator and double check the points value in the guide for any foods that we eat often. Like you said, a point here and there adds up or frees up other points if it works the other way.

 

[karliebug]

My WI was no good today. Up a pound. Grrrrr. I tracked, exercised, did all the right things, so I'm not sure what's up. A prior version of me would have given up right about now. But, I'm going to stick with it. Like you guys say, I have to look at the other successes.

Hope the other Wednesday folks have better results.

Don't worry, it will show up next week. Hang in there. Everyone has weeks where you do everything right and gain a little and weeks when you cheated and seemed to get away with it. It could be that you are retaining water-watch your sodium. Also, you may be losing inches.

 

[Sandi]

Girl I so feel your pain!! But I'm hanging in there and I know you are too . I really worked out last week too and tracked everything. Did weights and Jillian Michaels 30 day shred (which killed me) and I gained 1lb. This week I cut back on my working out. I did the elliptical but instead of high resistance and incline I did it longer and just on the basic flat no resistance. Hope that does something for me tomorrow. Hang in there keep up the positive attitude.

Thanks Steph. I know others are in the same boat -- and we have a pretty darn big boat. That's part of why I love this thread. (Thank you Robin.) I was explaining to my DH how I use this thread for support and that it is so much better than the WW website threads -- I gave up on those.

I was thinking also that working for WW would help me keep my weight in check and help me focus on maintaining, however... that was not the case.

Well, that wasn't what I wanted to hear Jess. I'm going to pretend it will work.

Don't worry, it will show up next week. Hang in there. Everyone has weeks where you do everything right and gain a little and weeks when you cheated and seemed to get away with it. It could be that you are retaining water-watch your sodium. Also, you may be losing inches.

Thanks Karliebug. Yes, the inches are definitely coming off. Today I put on a suit for work and the pants were hanging terribly. I looked like a little kid dressed up in her dad's clothes. That suit is going to Goodwill.

 

[CdnBuzzFan]

Yeah, Just adjust your points until you can "downsize" your yogurt . What kind is it? I'll have to pass that info onto my other WW friends about the fruit. Thanks for letting us know.

Why the heck would it be two points? That just doesn't make an sense.

Yes. When you make a RECIPE using fruits and veggies you are supposed to add them to the recipe builder so it can calculate the points on the carbs in the food. I call BS on that one and won't do it. Of course, with an attitude like that no wonder I lose weight so slowly .

Actually someone mentioned this in my meeting the other day. The leader said to go by the number on the points calculator. She said the pocket guide and food companion are accurate, but they are averages. In fact, she said that we should use the calculator and double check the points value in the guide for any foods that we eat often. Like you said, a point here and there adds up or frees up other points if it works the other way.

I've been buying SOURCE made by Yoplait. It's sweetened with Splenda and fruit flavoured. On the old points plan, it worked out to 1 pt for 200g which is around 3/4 of a cup I think.

The info on the label per 100g is:
Protein 4g
Carbohydrates 5g
Fat 0g
Fibre 0g
...which according to the calculator is 1 pp+.

However, in the pocket guide under Yogurt, it says that Light (artificially sweetened) 1 Cup is 3 pp+. That works out to 1.5 pp+ for half a cup or about 100 grams. Since WW no longer uses half points, it has to be counted as 2 pp+ points.

The Complete Food Companion (I think I have the American version) says the same thing on page 76.

I'm told that we have to go by the books and not by the calculator when determining the points for foods sweetened artificially because of the calculator's inability to take sugar alcohol into account.

So it seems that there is another discrepancy here, which is do we go by what the book says or by what the calculator says. Looks like not even our leaders have this one right yet because we're getting two different answers.

Well, that wasn't what I wanted to hear Jess. I'm going to pretend it will work.

Oh, Sandi, I'm sure it works for other people. I've just gotten a little cocky since I hit Lifetime.

 

[robinb]

I've been buying SOURCE made by Yoplait. It's sweetened with Splenda and fruit flavoured. On the old points plan, it worked out to 1 pt for 200g which is around 3/4 of a cup I think.

The info on the label per 100g is:
Protein 4g
Carbohydrates 5g
Fat 0g
Fibre 0g
...which according to the calculator is 1 pp+.

However, in the pocket guide under Yogurt, it says that Light (artificially sweetened) 1 Cup is 3 pp+. That works out to 1.5 pp+ for half a cup or about 100 grams. Since WW no longer uses half points, it has to be counted as 2 pp+ points.

The Complete Food Companion (I think I have the American version) says the same thing on page 76.

I'm told that we have to go by the books and not by the calculator when determining the points for foods sweetened artificially because of the calculator's inability to take sugar alcohol into account.

So it seems that there is another discrepancy here, which is do we go by what the book says or by what the calculator says. Looks like not even our leaders have this one right yet because we're getting two different answers.

Oooo. I see where the sugar alcohols in artificial sweeteners can be a problem. I remember worrying about them when I was on Atkins many moons ago. I would say that if you eat two servings per day, then split the difference and put it in as 1 cup total for 3 points.

ETA: I stopped eating artificially sweetened yogurt because it didn't taste good to me and it didn't satisfy me and sometimes it triggered me to eat more. I now eat Stoneyfield Farm non-fat yogurt and it's 3 points for 6 oz, but it really hits the spot for me. I also like plain non-fat greek yogurt.

 

[sjms71]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredibly happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

 

[CdnBuzzFan]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredible happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

HOLY COW!!! : :
Good for you, Stephanie! Nice goin'. You've made us proud!

 

[sjms71]

HOLY COW!!! : :
Good for you, Stephanie! Nice goin'. You've made us proud!

I love you guys!! You're the best support ever.

 

[Twingle]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredible happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

AWESOME! So proud of you and all your hard work! GREAT JOB!

 

[Sandi]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredible happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

That's terrific. I'm jealous --- but also hopeful. You really are coming close to the goal line. Congratulations!!!!

 

[robinb]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredible happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

I can't WAIT to see your ticker click into the 60's!

 

[Worfiedoodles]

Holy Cow I lost 3.2 this week!

I'm sure you all can imagine how incredible happy I am after struggling for a while now. I couldn't wait to come home and share with you all. 1 more LB. to go before 60 gone . So, just stick with it everyone, I know some weeks you just feel like you can't go on but, you can. I hope this is a turning point for me for the now last 12lbs. Thanks again everyone for all your support and encouragement every week .

Stephanie -- What a wonderful inspiration you are! I know you are so pleased, it is really hard to have a loss like that when you get close to your goal. You Congratulations!

Maria

 

[sjms71]

Again, thank you so much, you all truly are the BEST. I've been trying everything to see the scale move the last few weeks. Not sure what exactly did it. I cut back on my intensity in my workout this week but did it for longer. Or maybe everything finally caught up with me. Whatever it is I"ll take it. I don't think I've loss like that since I first started ww 15 months ago, I am still amazed!! Hope I started a trend for everyone else.