We Have Barack Obama!!

[wonderlanne]

um. i uh...hmmm.

interesting voice mail message. if i received a message like this, i'd press "76".

 

[OctMtnWoods]

I couldn't get the voice mail to work?

 

[chisnpeke]

I have no idea why I'm jumping in here. Doubtful you'll listen. I haven't yet read further than this post so I have no idea where the debate is now. BUT. Bush didn't deregulate. It actually began in the Carter administration. Clinton tweaked some things that began this downward spiral - and I've even read an interview transcript where Clinton admitted that his administration had a lot to do with it. Ironically, Bush, who's now getting the full blame for something he didn't start, actually spoke up about this in 2003 and forward of something like this happening if it wasn't fixed. No one listened to him.

You're exactly right. It did all start with Carter. I was going to post the same thing.

 

[chisnpeke]

Here is the problem, nationally we hate congress, locally we tend to love our congressmen. (that's a general statement). They have figured out the game, as long as they are bringing pork to their constutents the consitutents love the pork. It's when it goes to someone elses back yard that it is terrible.

This last election I personally voted a straight ticket, that ticket was if you were currently in office you didn't get my vote.

 

[OctMtnWoods]

How do you hear the voice mail? I clicked and nothing happened.

 

[redrosesix]

You're exactly right. It did all start with Carter. I was going to post the same thing.

Well, if you are going to start laying blame, I would attribute it to Nixon -- once the US dollar and other currencies were no longer pegged, governments all over the world started adjusting interest rates to control the value of the dollar, rather than setting policy to take care of the people.

The floating exchange rates affect everything from the price of gold and oil to the price of corn and wheat. And that is not to mention the effect it has had on foreign ownership of debt.

But it seemed like a good idea at the time -- problem is, times have changed and that is a very difficult one to undo.

 

[joviroxx]

And to me, that was the start of our downfall. We are the United STATES, that means we are a united 50 states. This was a very important concept to the founders that we have let slip.

People seem to forget that the states came first, then they created the Federal Government, not the other way around.

 

[OctMtnWoods]

I couldn't get the voice mail to work?

How do you hear the voice mail? I clicked and nothing happened.

Anyone? Hello?

 

[cinmell]

Anyone? Hello?

Sorry it didn't work for you. All I had to do was click on the link.

 

[OctMtnWoods]

Sorry it didn't work for you. All I had to do was click on the link.

Thank you for at least responding. lol I've been trying it all types of way and on different browsers and all I get is a page that loads & says "done". No sound. Yes my speakers are on.

I even googled it to try to find it elsewhere, but it leads back to the same source as the link given. oh well.

 

[S. C.]

I clicked on the words "Listen to this voicemail message...." and it went to it.

 

[eliza61]

Here is the problem, nationally we hate congress, locally we tend to love our congressmen. (that's a general statement). They have figured out the game, as long as they are bringing pork to their constutents the consitutents love the pork. It's when it goes to someone elses back yard that it is terrible.

This last election I personally voted a straight ticket, that ticket was if you were currently in office you didn't get my vote.

OMG MM,
That's exactly what I did. I mean I literally went into the booth and said "incumbent" = out. Democratic, republician, Vulcan or Hobbit. I refused to vote anyone who had a hand in this mess another 4 years of free health care on my dime.

 

[rie'smom]

People seem to forget that the states came first, then they created the Federal Government, not the other way around.

This person didn't forget.
Over 200 years ago, each state saw itself more as a separate country belonging to a union. Today we see ourselves as a nation.