WDW renegged on my old never-expiring tickets. -watch out!!!

jleslie48 said:
that's how it's supposed to work. can you imagine if at 11pm you got back to your room, no bags, and had to wait an hour to shower and go to bed?

Your story just doesn't add up...here you say you had to wait an hour to take a shower because you didn't have your bags, but here...
jleslie48 said:
We actually believed the sales pitch. We packed in our carry-on the clothes for the morning , expecting our bags to arrive after we did. Little did we know that our "ride" was also the baggage car. It was close to an hour in the airport. And then all we got to was the check in at the hotel, wait on line,
then wait for another bus to take us to our room.
...you say a totally different thing...why would you pack your clothes for the morning, but not clothes to go to bed in???
 
disneyfanz04 said:
Your story just doesn't add up...here you say you had to wait an hour to take a shower because you didn't have your bags, but here......you say a totally different thing...why would you pack your clothes for the morning, but not clothes to go to bed in???


sorry you misquoted me. you left out "can you imagine if" as in "can you imagine if you had to wait an hour to take a shower because you didn't have your bags..." I was talking to the guy who who got back to his room at 11pm.


we arrived at night at 1:30am fully expecting our bags to get their later, so we packed in our carry-on bags our morning clothes (and sleepwear.) I was asked on arrival (at 1:00 to the front desk) if I wanted my bags when they arrived, in about an hour. I told them no don't wake us, bring them in the morning around 7:00am. They did that perfectly. Then came the room switch and the bags not getting to the new room.
 
I have not read all of these replies, I managed to get through page three but many posters seem to be saying that the OP "sounds angry, the letter is too angry, it needs to go through spell check, it isn't professional", etc. I take issue with all of that. The OP is not a job applicant, not an employee, not even a theme park guest volunteer or a student apprentice, HE IS A GUEST! He has spent thousands of dollars, planned for his trip and was sold, at least at one point a pass which was represented to be non expiring. If one or two links in the chain confirmed it to be so, that should have been the end of it. If the front desk told him to have his bags ready and they would be transferred to a new room, that should have been the end of it. It should have been done. I am guessing that Magical Express was delayed in departing because they are on an "arrival and departure" schedule, no matter how many passengers are aboard, but if one were unaware of that, I can understand how superficial chatting would be annoying. Clearly there was faulty communication with Alamo. He should have been told that a pre paid voucher needed to be presented. That is why people use travel services instead of doing it themselves. Disney had an opportunity to behave in a Disney like manner, they didn't. Shame on them. I just don't get the attitude that guests must grovel to Disney for them to do their job.
 
disneyfanz04 said:
Your story just doesn't add up...here you say you had to wait an hour to take a shower because you didn't have your bags, but here......you say a totally different thing...why would you pack your clothes for the morning, but not clothes to go to bed in???

You know, why does it matter? He expected a service that he was promised, have your bags ready, they will be moved and they weren't. What difference does it matter what he packed in his bags. Who cares? It diversion from the original complaint which I think is justified.
 

disneyfanz04 said:
Your story just doesn't add up...here you say you had to wait an hour to take a shower because you didn't have your bags, but here......you say a totally different thing...why would you pack your clothes for the morning, but not clothes to go to bed in???


I think you are getting two different situations mixed together. He had the bags transferred because they changed rooms. That is what he is upset about waiting for. The morning clothes were for after ME service as I understood it.

OP I am sorry you had such a difficult time on your trip.
 
If this had happened at Universal, there would be a whole lot of, "That would never happen at Disney!!!"

Disney needs to be held just as accountable as any other company. Its prices are through the roof and its customer service should be impeccable.
 
jleslie48 said:
Your baggage story is incorrect. CB gladly picked up my bags, and informed me not to worry, they will handle the entire switch just as long as the bags were closed. Besides that the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What they made up the room without entering it? That makes no sense. They are in and out of the room all the time. Who wants their day at a park interrupted thinking about bags and such?

What I said was: Bell Services in a Deluxe resort will not go into your room. You must be in the room for both pick up and delivery.

Bell Services. Not Housekeeping. And my story is 100% right. I have never had luggage picked up or delivered to a Deluxe resort without being in the room to greet (and tip, mind you) the valet. I know that the Value resorts will pick and up deliver without anyone being in the room, but I am not sure about the Moderates. (Can someone familiar with the policy at the Moderates speak up?)

When switching to a Deluxe I never spend my "thinking" about my bags. I check into the room, go to the valet and tell them my room number and they bring up the bags (for a tip, of course) in 20-30 minutes. Your wait was not unreasonable or extreme for having luggage delivered to you.
 
This has to be a child playing a game. I can't believe an adult would write such a gramatically incorrect letter.

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jleslie48 said:
I could understand that. then do it writing/email. they could see I was already coming, that should of represented something more than anybody just calling "check the days left for me?" I was scheduled to come down.


They have tens of thousands of people who are "coming". It is there policy. No need to change it.
 
jleslie48 said:
I see your a cast member, I am now even more sure it was a tactic to wear me down and cheat me.

Cast Member in the tag is not indicative of employment with Disney. It is a pet name the DIS gives new members after a certain # of posts.

ETA: You too one day will be a DIS Cast Member..right now you are "earning your ears"--which is what new hires at Disney are doing.
 
jleslie48 said:
That's exactly what I did in 1999 as well, only I didn't have anything left over so it was a non-issue. I had such a good time in 1999 In 2001, I figured I would save some money and buy the multi-day since I was sure WDW was going to be a regular thing, so I bought the multi-day. I specifically bought the 4 day because that was the shortest time frame that included the no-expiration clause.

I see now they charge extra for the no-expiration part. I think they are really being stupid doing that. I bet more people than not lose/forget the old passes, and they are way ahead. By charging extra, people will time things better. I learned that from my friend who owns a resturant. He used to sell gift certificates with an expiration date of the end of the year. Well come December, he would get a rush of people coming in for the pre-paid meal. When he switched to no expiration date, people just forgot about the coupon, they figured they could use it whenever. As a result he made out much better with the no-expiration coupons.

Actually we love the options with teh new MYW passes that way if we want to get a longer pass with fewer features we can so if I don't want them to be good forever I don't have to pay to have that option on htere same with teh plusses and hopping. I much prefer the new passes to the old hoppers. Not only that but I do believe you could get teh old passes that did expire but don't quote me on that you could have inadvertently been given a length of stay pass and not the other hopper.
 
You probably need to drop a couple of things out of your letter and then make it a bit more "honied". Bus transfers from the airport take a long time. Whenever I've had them (pre-ME) they always wanted to pick you up a ridiculous amount of time before the flight. I'd leave this part out because it takes away from the portion of your complaints that are justified...for example the tickets...I've always wondered at what would happen if Disney accidentally lost some of my days a couple of years down the line.

I'd also leave off the baggage complaint. I dunno if its valid or not but the one time I did the transfer dance from BCV to AKL I had to call down when I wanted them to take my stuff & they didn't deliver it until I was in the room. This just may be the really annoying way they choose to handle things. Also bad things happen to baggage...at best you'd get an "we're sorry out of this one".

So that leaves the tickets and the car. Truthfully I don't think you'll get any recompense for either of these. In each instance you ultimately (very ultimately) got what you paid for. However its worth making the complaint because I agree that the KTTW's had permanent tickets from more than 4 years ago. I never got a combination ticket because ...I just never trusted the idea...with good reason apparently.

PS. No one here can address why one location and another have disagreeing computer systems.
 
vickyBaby said:
This has to be a child playing a game. I can't believe an adult would write such a gramatically incorrect letter.

I was thinking the same thing but if you look at some of the replies they are just as bad.
 
Nanajo1 said:
We bought our parkhopper++ tix from the front desk at OKW in 99 and 01. They were put on our KTTK cards. Last year we brought some of them to Guest Services at EPCOT to check out the number of days left. The CM tried to tell me that KTTK cards didn't have parkhoppers on them.When he finally checked them he laughed and said you learn something new everyday!

I agree and it is likeley more to do with the number of people that go to guest services to buy their passes and the people that pre order and have them shipped they probably don't see many people with them on the key cards I prefer tehm that way then I am only carying 5 cards around rather than 10 cards.
 
vickyBaby said:
This has to be a child playing a game. I can't believe an adult would write such a gramatically incorrect letter.

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Gramatically is actually spelled "grammatically". I love it when that happens.
 
doubletrouble_vb said:
You probably need to drop a couple of things out of your letter and then make it a bit more "honied". Bus transfers from the airport take a long time. Whenever I've had them (pre-ME) they always wanted to pick you up a ridiculous amount of time before the flight. I'd leave this part out because it takes away from the portion of your complaints that are justified...for example the tickets...I've always wondered at what would happen if Disney accidentally lost some of my days a couple of years down the line.

I'd also leave off the baggage complaint. I dunno if its valid or not but the one time I did the transfer dance from BCV to AKL I had to call down when I wanted them to take my stuff & they didn't deliver it until I was in the room. This just may be the really annoying way they choose to handle things. Also bad things happen to baggage...at best you'd get an "we're sorry out of this one".

So that leaves the tickets and the car. Truthfully I don't think you'll get any recompense for either of these. In each instance you ultimately (very ultimately) got what you paid for. However its worth making the complaint because I agree that the KTTW's had permanent tickets from more than 4 years ago. I never got a combination ticket because ...I just never trusted the idea...with good reason apparently.

PS. No one here can address why one location and another have disagreeing computer systems.

The baggage is another issue that some people don't know about. We had our luggage transfewred from BWV to ASMo and the bags were in our room when we returned from the park. Same thing with the transfer from ASMo to VWL the bags were in the room when we arrived back later on that day. So yes they do put the bags in your room for you without you being there.
 
jleslie48 said:
I just cannot believe it. here's the letter I sent to WDW detailing my last trip, I'm awaiting there response:

Well Now I know why you refuse to acknowledge old
cards online. It is reprehensible the way your park
didn't honor my 4 year old, never expiring passes.
Your personell were rude, non-compromising and
completely wrong. Your computer systems are
completely in error at the parks, and your ridiculous
insistence of showing me monitor screens are bullying.
I have been a life long devotee of your parks and I
have never had such an experience of incompetency (I
can only hope) or outright thievery (I fear.)

1) You wouldn't confirm the balances on my cards by
email or phone, prior to my visit, why? So I couldn't
dig out my receipts???

2) I arrived at Carribean beach and check with their
computer, they confirmed what I had already known, 2
days left on a 4, 4-day park-hopper cards (built into
my old room keys) never expiring. From what I
remember, that was always the case, now I see it is a
pay in option (very poor taste,) however I was now
confident that my cards were fine.

3) I arrived at your ticket booth at magic kingdom to
get the days passes, the person collecting the money
ran the cards, confirmed for a second time that I had
2 days left on 4-day park-hopper cards, no need to do
anything proceed to the monorail, and enter the park.


4) arrive at gate, access denied. I was told to go
back to the ticket booth (1/2 hour round trip???) you
have a bit of nerve. after making me 10 minutes while
the gate officer sold kids pins, returns to send me to
the information booth, (this is a wear down tactic,
I'm familiar with it.) where I wait on a line, only
to get the "see my screen shows that the cards are
expired" line. Your salesman has the audacity to
actuall turn the monitor around to show me, COMPLETELY
IGNORING THE FACT THAT TWO OTHER PERSONELL HAVE
ALREADY CONFIRMED THAT THE CARDS ARE GOOD. Refuses to
even check with the others.

This situation continued for two days. I went back to
Carribean Beach, and they too, re-confirmed that the
room keys and the 2001 park-hopper passes were valid.


I am completely disappointed with your service.


In addition on my stay:

1) I reserved my Alamo car rental through your
services, when trying to get my car, there is complete
denial of any WDW responsibility in anything but they
patch me through to Alamo, who says no problem all you
need is your drivers licence and credit card. Upon
arriving at the Alamo car rental area, they have no
record of my car. Apparently I need some voucher that
they have no way to look up because they have no
record of my credit card, my name, nothing. Meantime
I'm on your property and you proudly proclaim I can to
everything with my room key. Now I have to wait for
Alamo to go through regular phone connects to find out
my voucher number. This takes over 45 minutes as you
don't answer phones and rely entirely too much on
automated phone systems. This system is unacceptable.


2) Room change. for some reason, now in october, with
a half empty hotel, I am placed in the physically
farthest hotel room from all resort services (huh???)
Not a big problem, I call the front desk and they
graciously change my room, just leave my bags packed
up before I leave and they will be in my new room,
which will be assigned by 3pm. So I leave for the day
at the park 8am, stop by the front desk at 8:00pm that
day to find out my new room, get my new keys, all is
well. I get to the room. No bags. HUH?? I call, "oh
you didn't call for your bags, your supposed to call
for your bag delivery" ARE YOU KIDDING? That's the
stupidest thing I've ever heard. So the bell cap says
he'll bring the bags over. So we wait in our dirty
clothes waiting to go to dinner. 20 minutes goes by.
I call again. "where's the bags" answer "oh I'm
still waiting for the the bags to be put on the truck
and the driver" ARE YOU SERIOUS? THIS IS AN
ACCEPTABLE ANSWER??? 30 minutes later the bags
come....

3) Magical express. 2 hours from "checking in" at the
magical express to getting to my hotel room, including
20 minutes waiting for a bus, and an additonal 30
minutes of watching a bus driver chit chatting with
the ground personell while the bus sat full of people.
NOT ACCEPTABLE.

YOU Wanted 3 hours lead time on my flight to go back
to the airport, IT'S 30 MINUTES AWAY. Plus that was
leaving from the hotel, that means I'd HAVE TO leave
the PARK an HOUR EARLIER. PLUS since my flight was at
8:10pm, and It was 7:30am (so I could go to the parks
on my last day) I COULDN'T EVEN CHECK IN TO THE DISNEY
EXPRESS, IT WAS MORE THAN 12 HOURS BEFORE THE FLIGHT.
Not acceptable. PLUS DISNEY EXPRESS CHECK IN CLOSES
AT 2:00PM. Ridiculous.

That's about the size of this trip to WDW. NOT
Magical at all. More like that Nightmare you have
when you are trying to get somewhere and something
stupid always gets in your way. You wasted over a
half of one day with nonsense that should of been
nothing, plue it took me 2 days to calm down. This is
not how a vacation is supposed to go.

Sincerely,

Jonathan

It upsets me when I see this stuff. I too have had problems and all I got was a kiss off letter not worded very nicely. I truly belive Walt must be spinning in his grave. Disney has beome greedy and that is never a good feeling. I know when I used to go in the past I did not care what I paid b/c I thougt that it was worth it now I get the uneasy feeling that all they want to do is let Mickey put his thumbless hand into my pocket. I do not like that feeling. Be sure you let us know the outcome. It would be nice to know that they will at least compensate you for your time.
 
CharlesTD said:
The baggage is another issue that some people don't know about. We had our luggage transfewred from BWV to ASMo and the bags were in our room when we returned from the park. Same thing with the transfer from ASMo to VWL the bags were in the room when we arrived back later on that day. So yes they do put the bags in your room for you without you being there.

I know at BWV we had to be in our room to get our bags delivered. We were told to call down to bellservices when we got to our room. So maybe it is a delux resort thing. I know it seem everytime we turned around we were tipping someone :rotfl:
 
damo said:
Gramatically is actually spelled "grammatically". I love it when that happens.
This why I wish the DIS would get spell/grammar check :teacher:
 
Nanajo1 said:
I know at BWV we had to be in our room to get our bags delivered. We were told to call down to bellservices when we got to our room. So maybe it is a delux resort thing. I know it seem everytime we turned around we were tipping someone :rotfl:

Isn't that the truth that was what I liked about having the bags in our room at ASMo and VWL no tip required LOL
 


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