WDW - Castle Picture

[MICKEY88]

Much better than last tim I attempted by telling you "boys" to "play nice in the sandbox" That just started another flare up all on its own.

are you trying to stir things up again...LOL

perhaps the technique had something to do with it, like not talking down to the people involved.....calling them boys......

 

[manning]

I'm curious as to why the pic can't have the copyright on it, if someone is going to be nice enough to provide a picture that you need, why shouldn't they get credit, and be able to protect their image..

Actually any picture taken on Disney property cannot be copyrighted. Disney controls everything and owns the right. They are able to do this because you are standing on their property when you took the picture.

I know it's crazy but that's the law. As an example if you took a picture of a house and were standing on the owners property the owner can stop you from selling the photo. Now go stand in the street and take that photo he can't stop you.

 

[wenrob]

one last thought, I just visited your website, nice work, but I'd be really careful about publicly making the special offer you have for May, it's my understanding that the owners of the location don't look kindly upon people making profit off of their property and unique backgrounds...

No kidding! That's crazy!

are you trying to stir things up again...LOL

perhaps the technique had something to do with it, like not talking down to the people involved.....calling them boys......

There's a huge difference in tone and meaning calling someone "boy" and saying, "now boys." One is meant to be degrading and one is meant light heartedly and to diffuse. I think the person using the term or phrase needs to be taken into consideration. I've never seen Ann be anything but kind and upstanding. IMHO her comments should be taken in that light. Not that my opinion means a hill of beans but there it is anyway.

I'm 100% with Zwackie on this. I can see both sides and I lean towards the wishes of the person who took the photo.

 

[MICKEY88]

Actually any picture taken on Disney property cannot be copyrighted. Disney controls everything and owns the right. They are able to do this because you are standing on their property when you took the picture.

I know it's crazy but that's the law. As an example if you took a picture of a house and were standing on the owners property the owner can stop you from selling the photo. Now go stand in the street and take that photo he can't stop you.

sorry but you incorrect on this, all photos, including those taken on Disney property, of disney property, are {by federal copyright law} copyrighted the instant the picture is taken, the photographer is the copyright holder unless a contract is done in advance and it is a work for hire situation..

so yes I do own the copyright to all photos I take at Disney,

I do not however have usage rights because of Disneys trademarks { I can not sell them or use them for any commercial purpose}
I can print as many as I want and hang them, give them away etc..


you are confusing copyright with usage rights...

in your second example..again innaccurate

if standing on the street, you can legally take as many photos of the house that you want, if standing on the property the owner can stop you from taking pictures...in either situation you still can not sell the photos without a property release from the homeowner
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[MICKEY88]

No kidding! That's crazy!



There's a huge difference in tone and meaning calling someone "boy" and saying, "now boys." One is meant to be degrading and one is meant light heartedly and to diffuse. I think the person using the term or phrase needs to be taken into consideration. I've never seen Ann be anything but kind and upstanding. IMHO her comments should be taken in that light. Not that my opinion means a hill of beans but there it is anyway.

I'm 100% with Zwackie on this. I can see both sides and I lean towards the wishes of the person who took the photo.

I took no offense the first time, nor this time, because I don't take life that seriously, hence the LOL...however in this day and age of political corectness, the term boys, when spoken to men, is very offensive and inflamatory to a large segment of our population

 

[Steve's Girl]

I don't want to stir the pot any further - I have already stated my opinion - but this ongoing discussion has raised a question: Is a watermark and a copyright the same thing? If I put a very small watermark in the lower corner of a photo that contains my initials and the year the photo was taken, is that a copyright? Or do you need to have the © symbol to make it a copyright? I guess I have been viewing a small watermark as just an artist signature like on a painting, a piece of pottery, etc. And a © was required for an official copyright. Just a little confused as to what constitutes a copyright and what constitutes a signature, or are they one in the same?

 

[GrumpyOne]

In many countries, including the US, a copyright is granted the instant the picture is taken. You can also register a copyright with the copyright and trademark office. Doing so allows you to pursue damages and attorney's fees in the event you have to after someone for copyright violation.

Personally, I'd only register the best-of-my-best work.

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
http://www.copyright.gov/docs/fees.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright#Obtaining_and_enforcing_copyright

 

[Chikabowa]

Putting your copyright information in the metadata also helps.

Watermarking discourages thievery on the internet (doesn't deter it, just discourages it). But putting all your information into the actual metadata of the file will help with copyright infringement. Of course, it's pretty easy to wipe the metadata clean. But with the right council on your side in a copyright infringement case, they should be able to prove otherwise.

 

[MICKEY88]

a watermark can say anything, with the word copyright or the copyright symbol it becomes a copyright watermark.

you can go after someone for copyright infringement without the picture having the watermark, but the watermark discourages theft, and makes for a stronger case in court, having the photo actually registered with the copyright office, raises the amount of damages you can go after.

having the copyright on the face of the photo, turns the infringement into a felony if the watermark is removed...

 

[Jazzylolo]

I LOVE LOVE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE the last photo. And the photos in your sig are fabulous!!!!! WOO HOO!!!

Thanks so much! I am excited to go back in June and take more pictures