WBRepo-Ship of Thieves-Remember the Magic Pt 10

[granmaz]

Marilyn,

Good point, but these are VERY young people and never lived through some of the things we have, such as the winter of discontent over there and WIN (Whip Inflation Now) over here and the various recessions.

When I graduated university in the latter quarter of the 1970's I could not even get a job as a filing clerk, for the whopping sum of $115 a week.

I think a lot of this generation, are, according to one of my WW members who is a dean at a university, the progeny of what I guess they now call, "helicopter parents," parent who hover over their kids (and yes, I have heard of parents wanting to be at their child's job interview).

I feel bad for an entire generation, that grew up in times of more or less plenty and economic growth, because they aren't really prepared for what's happening.

We at my company are also very fortunate, because the executive management are all, shall we say, "mature." They are very good business people and have high expectations, but they also have a sense of stewardship and obligation to take care of the people that work for them. That has meant not over hiring and making sure we never had too much staff.

But who knows what the future will bring. I work in a commercial insurance company, so our business is tied to the general business state.

Some of our sectors are really suffering because the businesses we insure are disappearing.

You are so right Ian. We were born not long after WW2, so still in the difficult times. We are used to cost cutting and have done so all our lives(apart from the present time of great vacations, though we still cut back) I'm even thinking that generation will struggle with cost cutting measures, not having moneu to go clubbing, drinking etc. Those living on their own will be returning to the parental homes in droves I think.

There was a programme last autumn, before the economy got as bad as it is, but after the credit crunch began, where they went to a boom town in Wales and looking at how new housing estates were not being built because of the econome, etc, and chatting particularly to a teenage girl. She had to shop every weekend, and have designer gear, including the 'right' trainers(sneakers). She couldn't possible go to school in the wrong label trainers. All her life she has had what she wants, like the majority of that generation really. She was already feeling very depressed about the future even then. Like you I feel so sorry for them as the reality sinks in.

Last night a report was saying how we are eating in more and entertaining at home instead of eating out. This means restaurants are closing. These same people want more entertainment at home, so satellite tv etc is growing.

Of course John and our son Andrew have a business and have to be aware of the future. At the moment, though things are a little slower, all is going well, and the staff are all ok. Who knows in a year or so? They have put some things into place but???

Who would have thought this time last year that things would be like this?

 

[scottishwee35]

You are so right Ian. We were born not long after WW2, so still in the difficult times. We are used to cost cutting and have done so all our lives(apart from the present time of great vacations, though we still cut back) I'm even thinking that generation will struggle with cost cutting measures, not having moneu to go clubbing, drinking etc. Those living on their own will be returning to the parental homes in droves I think.

There was a programme last autumn, before the economy got as bad as it is, but after the credit crunch began, where they went to a boom town in Wales and looking at how new housing estates were not being built because of the econome, etc, and chatting particularly to a teenage girl. She had to shop every weekend, and have designer gear, including the 'right' trainers(sneakers). She couldn't possible go to school in the wrong label trainers. All her life she has had what she wants, like the majority of that generation really. She was already feeling very depressed about the future even then. Like you I feel so sorry for them as the reality sinks in.

Last night a report was saying how we are eating in more and entertaining at home instead of eating out. This means restaurants are closing. These same people want more entertainment at home, so satellite tv etc is growing.

Of course John and our son Andrew have a business and have to be aware of the future. At the moment, though things are a little slower, all is going well, and the staff are all ok. Who knows in a year or so? They have put some things into place but???

Who would have thought this time last year that things would be like this?

oh I feel sad about everything - business.. people got redundancy...

Now I stay home lot as cut down to out with friend for eating out...

I cannot afford to go out lot and on my birthday for meals so I told my friend to come my house to have take away chinese banquet to save our money...

Scottishwee35

 

[granmaz]

oh I feel sad about everything - business.. people got redundancy...

Now I stay home lot as cut down to out with friend for eating out...

I cannot afford to go out lot and on my birthday for meals so I told my friend to come my house to have take away chinese banquet to save our money...

Scottishwee35

I am sure you will have a fantastic birthday - it is the friends that make it, and a Chinese banquet will be fun.

 

[iankh]

THANKS :

We have never been Annual Pass holders so do not know what the perks are.
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You have to assess whether or not the DDE card will be worth it.

I'm not even sure what it costs now ($50?). So, the key is whether you will save more than you spend on the card.

We're AP holders as well, and once upon a time, before DVC members could get the dining plan we had the card. Since then, I think the dining plan, for us anyways, made for a better option.

 

[edna mode]

Hi All, I didn't realize how far behind I had gotten until I realized you were 100 pages into another thread I'm sure I've missed a ton of good stuff going on over here. Been extremely busy with work (mostly doing this ) and busy with Zoe's and my school. Otherwise all is well here at our house. I hope everyone is well here, very curious how Mr. Tyler is doing at his new school. And to Cherie: thank you so very much for the beautiful picture letter. That was so nice and so thoughtful. Fill me in if anything really important has happened. Kelly

 

[granmaz]

Hi Kelly. Great to see you. I have been wondering how you all were so glad to know all is well and you are busy. That is good!!!

 

[iankh]

Hi Kelly, we've missed you!

 

[ibouncetoo]

I'm supposed to be heading out the door RIGHT NOW. Can't....still in my underwear and on the DIS.

Catch ya at lunch break (IF I get one today....the Super Bowl is a pain in the behind...but we're making money off it!)

.

 

[gaylean93]

Marilyn,

Good point, but these are VERY young people and never lived through some of the things we have, such as the winter of discontent over there and WIN (Whip Inflation Now) over here and the various recessions.

When I graduated university in the latter quarter of the 1970's I could not even get a job as a filing clerk, for the whopping sum of $115 a week.

I think a lot of this generation, are, according to one of my WW members who is a dean at a university, the progeny of what I guess they now call, "helicopter parents," parent who hover over their kids (and yes, I have heard of parents wanting to be at their child's job interview).

I feel bad for an entire generation, that grew up in times of more or less plenty and economic growth, because they aren't really prepared for what's happening.

We at my company are also very fortunate, because the executive management are all, shall we say, "mature." They are very good business people and have high expectations, but they also have a sense of stewardship and obligation to take care of the people that work for them. That has meant not over hiring and making sure we never had too much staff.

But who knows what the future will bring. I work in a commercial insurance company, so our business is tied to the general business state.

Some of our sectors are really suffering because the businesses we insure are disappearing.

Jon's brother lives with his wife and daughter in Jon's parent's house. One day his sister-in-law didn't have a babysitter so she gave her two week notice. She works as a waitress at Jon's casino so they called him to try and make it right. He refused to get involved because it wasn't his department and he wouldn't get involved anyway. So Jon's dad called her boss He also called another time because his sister-in-law was complaining about her co-workers and he wanted whatever they were doing to stop. Jon didn't recommend her and doesn't tell anyone he is related to her, even though some people do know.

 

[gaylean93]

You are so right Ian. We were born not long after WW2, so still in the difficult times. We are used to cost cutting and have done so all our lives(apart from the present time of great vacations, though we still cut back) I'm even thinking that generation will struggle with cost cutting measures, not having moneu to go clubbing, drinking etc. Those living on their own will be returning to the parental homes in droves I think.

There was a programme last autumn, before the economy got as bad as it is, but after the credit crunch began, where they went to a boom town in Wales and looking at how new housing estates were not being built because of the econome, etc, and chatting particularly to a teenage girl. She had to shop every weekend, and have designer gear, including the 'right' trainers(sneakers). She couldn't possible go to school in the wrong label trainers. All her life she has had what she wants, like the majority of that generation really. She was already feeling very depressed about the future even then. Like you I feel so sorry for them as the reality sinks in.

Last night a report was saying how we are eating in more and entertaining at home instead of eating out. This means restaurants are closing. These same people want more entertainment at home, so satellite tv etc is growing.

Of course John and our son Andrew have a business and have to be aware of the future. At the moment, though things are a little slower, all is going well, and the staff are all ok. Who knows in a year or so? They have put some things into place but???

Who would have thought this time last year that things would be like this?

My kids aren't really into clothes brand names yet. They do have some if I can find them cheap. My friend goes to a shopping day at one of the name brand stores. It won't let me write it here. Anyway, she gets shirts for the kids and it is $5.00 a pound. So they have some. My concern is that when I tell them they need to save their allowance for things they start talking about how poor we are. I don't want to put that burden on them but I think if they want something and it isn't for their birthday or Christmas they should earn it. Brooke wonders why our house doesn't have stairs. Ethan isn't as bad as her but I'm sure it won't be long. I just don't know how to teach them that money doesn't grow on trees without them worrying about money. I think I'm a stronger person and can give up a lot more than some because of how I was raised and I want that for them too. Plus, because my family never traveled or really did a lot of extra things it is a blessing for me and I think my kids take it for granted. When they ask me why their friends have more I just tell them that their friends didn't go on a Disney Cruise.

 

[gaylean93]

oh I feel sad about everything - business.. people got redundancy...

Now I stay home lot as cut down to out with friend for eating out...

I cannot afford to go out lot and on my birthday for meals so I told my friend to come my house to have take away chinese banquet to save our money...

Scottishwee35

That sounds like fun We had more fun and Bubba and V's house than we did at the restaurant. You'll have a great time.

 

[gaylean93]

Hi All, I didn't realize how far behind I had gotten until I realized you were 100 pages into another thread I'm sure I've missed a ton of good stuff going on over here. Been extremely busy with work (mostly doing this ) and busy with Zoe's and my school. Otherwise all is well here at our house. I hope everyone is well here, very curious how Mr. Tyler is doing at his new school. And to Cherie: thank you so very much for the beautiful picture letter. That was so nice and so thoughtful. Fill me in if anything really important has happened. Kelly

Hi Kelly The most important thing that happened is that Marilyn hit 10,000 posts and then I did too about a month after her and now I'm ahead of her No really I PMed you the important thing.

REUNION MARCH 21

 

[gaylean93]

I'm supposed to be heading out the door RIGHT NOW. Can't....still in my underwear and on the DIS.

Catch ya at lunch break (IF I get one today....the Super Bowl is a pain in the behind...but we're making money off it!)

.

Speaking of reunions....are you coming?

 

[granmaz]

My kids aren't really into clothes brand names yet. They do have some if I can find them cheap. My friend goes to a shopping day at one of the name brand stores. It won't let me write it here. Anyway, she gets shirts for the kids and it is $5.00 a pound. So they have some. My concern is that when I tell them they need to save their allowance for things they start talking about how poor we are. I don't want to put that burden on them but I think if they want something and it isn't for their birthday or Christmas they should earn it. Brooke wonders why our house doesn't have stairs. Ethan isn't as bad as her but I'm sure it won't be long. I just don't know how to teach them that money doesn't grow on trees without them worrying about money. I think I'm a stronger person and can give up a lot more than some because of how I was raised and I want that for them too. Plus, because my family never traveled or really did a lot of extra things it is a blessing for me and I think my kids take it for granted. When they ask me why their friends have more I just tell them that their friends didn't go on a Disney Cruise.

You're teaching them good ways there Gaylean.

One report here said that children(not as young as yours) are more aware of the economic situation than we think as they pick bits up on the TV etc, and are being more sensible. Apparently at Christmas children and young people were cutting down on what they were asking for.

Hi Kelly The most important thing that happened is that Marilyn hit 10,000 posts and then I did too about a month after her and now I'm ahead of her [/SIZE]

Definitely the most important thing to happen this year anyway!!!

 

[gaylean93]

You're teaching them good ways there Gaylean.

One report here said that children(not as young as yours) are more aware of the economic situation than we think as they pick bits up on the TV etc, and are being more sensible. Apparently at Christmas children and young people were cutting down on what they were asking for.

Well my kids do talk about it but they didn't ask for less Ethan did say at Christmas that he may not get a Nintendo DS because they were $1000.00 Then we got a Wii and DS He probably thinks we are rich. We told him he would get a new game when he passes all of his multiplication but he still has 8, 9 and 12 to go. They also get a little something when they get an award. Brooke is going to get her math award soon so she will get something. I believe in rewards because you usually get rewards if you're a hard worker at your job.

 

[lillygator]

I am falling apart...I am not any better and now my eye has something in it - it's all red and I had to take out my contacts and am half blind. I will be glad when this week is over.

 

[granmaz]

I am falling apart...I am not any better and now my eye has something in it - it's all red and I had to take out my contacts and am half blind. I will be glad when this week is over.

Not long now V. You need lots of TLC!

 

[ibouncetoo]

Speaking of reunions....are you coming?

Can't....between May and Sept vacations, losing 5 days of pay this quarter and some outpatient surgery gotta save my pennies!

.

 

[LuvBaloo]

I am falling apart...I am not any better and now my eye has something in it - it's all red and I had to take out my contacts and am half blind. I will be glad when this week is over.

You are having a rough time! Is Samantha coming down with it too or was she just tired yesterday?

 

[LuvBaloo]

It is tough to teach kids the value of money. We started allowances last fall so that the kids would start to get the idea of how much stuff cost. Kaleigh's doesn't really get it yet, but Shaelyn is understanding it. It really cut down on her wanting to buy stuff. If we're in a store and she asks for something, we usually respond that she'd have to use her money and whatever she's looking at is 2 allowances or 1 allowance or whatever. It's working well.