WARNING!!!!

[tiggerfla]

Excuse me I have to disagree with most of you here I feel that the original poster was just trying to warn everyone about the show. personally if I am paying the amount of money that we pay to go to USF then if I don't like a show I am going to leave. In response to Lorac I feel there is a major differenc from a theme park show and say Shakespeare in the Park in reference to your list We are talking about people working in a theme park I seriously doubt they are serious actors and your rules would not apply to a theme park show. Also if I want to go and see Eddie Murphy or Chris Rock comedy for ex. I will pay to see it I don't think it belongs in a theme park show. just my two cents on the subject.

 

[jtopicz1]

I agree with Loric on this one. Walking out in the middle of any show is just plain rude! This is especially true for a show such as Gory, Grutesque, Horror Make-Up Show where the theater is quite small and the presentation lasts less than 20 minutes anyways. I personally love the show and it's unpredictable, and at sometimes, twisted humor. I've seen the show 20+ times (at least once, sometimes twice every visit) and I've only seen two groups walk out (generally about a whole 5 minutes before the show is over). It's not fair to the people that are enjoying the show to have an inconsiderate person get up, walk in front of everybody, usually make noice while gathering their soveniers for the day, and then opening the loud exit doors which brings sudden light into the dark theater.

I completly agree with the oringinal poster. They did not like the show, respectfully waited until it was over, and decided never to go back. There seems to be about four different actors who work the show, in groups of two, and yes some use more suggestive humor than others, but it is all meant in fun.

I do agree also that the name of the show is a little misleading, as the show is really more of a comical look at the past years of horror movies. The show involves some audience participation (they generally pick on one person the whole show). Make no mistake, the humor is at times pretty gross, but nothing worse than you'd see on the 6 o'clock news.

One post I really have to disagree with is the post that seemed to say Univesal Actor's in this show are not real actor's, therefore they shouldn't be treated with common respect you would expect in a theater (and yes the show is in a real theater). That statement is just plain wrong. The people on stage are very knowledgeable about horror movies, makeup, etc. and I'm sure there not just some $5/hr employee Universal picked up from the local high school. (To whoever originally posted that thought- sorry if this sounds like I'm attacking you, I'm not! I just strongly disagree with the opinion your entitled to).

Anyways, if you think you may want to see the show, read the park map description, read the signs/warnings outside the theater, and decide for yourself if it's for you. If you don't like it, do what the original poster did, don't go back!

Sorry if this sounds like I was attacking anyone personally. I'm not trying to, just ranting

Jim

 

[Beejayjay]

Loric,

A few questions.

Why are backstage people not good to piss off ? Are they notorious for being violent ???

Why should you not walk out on what you consider to be a poor or offensive performance ? If I have paid hard cash (and the parks do charge very hard cash) to see a performance, of any sort, and I believe it to be that sub-standard, hey, I'm walking ! Let me make it clear I have never ever been anything less than totally happy with any show I have seen at Disney/USF, but if I did see a bad one, then I'm gonna let them know ! On the face of it walking out mid show is rude, but is it not equally disrespectful to the paying customer to put on a poor show ? If walking out tells the performer you think they suck, well then, hey, maybe they should take that on board !
Also, there is a big difference between seeing a show which isn't "your cup of tea" and a show that the customer thinks is sub par or plain offensive !

I have already said that I think Leia had totally the wrong idea about what she would see in this show, and if she was offended that is a shame, and I would say that in this case the people who walked out would have been wrong to tell the actors they found it offensive - after all there is a posted warning, and it is called the Gory Gruesome Monster Make up Show (which part of the name is not clear ?) but should they really stay put and allow their kids to see a show they believe unsuitable, just so as not to hurt the actors feelings ?

And do you really think we need the do/dont list my friend ? After all most of us are adults and know how to behave in public, a point which seems to be the prevailing opinion in replies to Leia's original post !

I dont mean any of this to sound harsh if thats the way it comes across, but I do find it a bit annoying when people try to tell me, a grown, consenting adult, how to behave or what to do or not to do !

Thats my 2 pence worth ! Bye for now !

BJJ.

Four days till Take Off !! Woo Hoo !!

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[degenerationxwwfwdw1]

Well what have I been telling you people about USF!!!!!!!! ;-) Well I agree that the show is rated PG-13 (even though T2-3D is PG-13 too and it was very tame compared to the movies and had no offensive language)and they can sort of say anything (like a Jay Leno show) but when they make fun of guests that is where you have to draw the line. I would have went to guest relations if I heard them making fun of guests. There is no excuse for that crap. I have never seen the show (I hated most USF so much I had to leave as soon as I could). Even with all of the thrill rides IOA is MUCH more of a family park than USF. USF is a place for people who dont like Disney and dont like thrill rides. Ok I'll say that not EVERYTHING at USF is horrible but 50% of the park is a pure waste of space and should be closed for the pure suckiness of it (and suckiness insnt even a real word). I am just saying my opinion just like the person who had the bad experience so there is no need to send hate mail or tell me how much I suck or anything like that.

"Why would you waste your time with USF when you could go to WDW or IOA!"

 

[degenerationxwwfwdw1]

And by the way we dont know the situation. The people that may have left might have had kids there or they could have been really rude to the performers. We dont know. I am just saying that the cast members should never make fun of other guests in front of other guests. I also didnt know that the theater is really small so I am sorry for that. But how many times have I seen people walk out of Disney shows? ALOT. The stage shows (like the show in Tomorrowland beside Buzz, Beauty and the Beast, and so on). And if I had a dollar for every person that I had seen walk out of the Tiki Room before it was updated I could retire at the age of 16. I know that some of those dont have live performers but there is someone working there that might love the show and could feel bad about that. So it isnt unusual at all for guests to walk out of shows and there are some people that dont have the patience to see anything that dosent turn them upside down or send you somewhere at a high rate of speed. I think it is sad because theater shows are a big part of theme parks.

"Why would you waste your time with USF when you could go to WDW or IOA!"

 

[Muushka]

I thank you for the warning. And trust me, if I ever went to a show that was offensive, I would walk out.

 

[iamleia2]

Bumping... I think this is interesting....

"The magic is as wide
as a smile and as
narrow as a wink, loud
as laughter and quiet
as a tear, tall as a tale
and deep as emotion.
So strong, it can lift the
spirit. So gentle, it can
touch the heart. It is the
magic that begins the
happily ever after."
THAT is Disney! ;-)

 

[Loric]

Okay.. I'm going to try and not have this post removed from the boards.. but someone pissed me off just a little bit..

First things first..

Are any of you actors? Have you ever been on stage? Could you go on stage infront of an audience? Do you have any idea how hard it is to do a show?

Apparently not, maybe over in London it's not considered rude to walk out of a show, but here in the states, anyone mildly involved in theater will find it down right offensive. Even more so than any dirty joke that could possibly be made about viagra and rear ends.

The list was provided so that the clueless-ones might get a clue about how to act in a theater. There are certain ways to act in certain places, you don't goto a upscale resturant, order a beer and cheeseburger, put your feet on the table and belch outloud, though you might do that every day at your local pub. It's rude and if you believe you have some sort of "right to be rude" then you've got an attitude problem and don't be surprised when someone someday makes you regret it. People who work in parks are human beings and deserve the same respect as anyone else and are NEVER to be considered lesser than thou and put on the earth to serve you. A long time ago the states did away with slavery and I will not quietly condone such treatment of people. Respect people's rights, ALL of them.
-Rob

 

[jtopicz1]

Ahhh.....very well said Loric, if not a bit on the snappy side. I think everyone's probably stated their points by now and made decisions about the show and what they would do on their own. Anyways it may be a good idea if we quit debating this subject, I'm sure everyone's made up their own mind on the issue, and it doesn't look good to visitors to the board if they see closed threads due to arguing. This was actually kind of a fun topic as it could relate to many themepark type shows (Poseidons Fury, Terminator, etc.). Thanks everyone who has been participating, I really enjoyed everyones views especially Leia, Loric, Jon, and others (not to say I agreed with all of them). Hope we have more good threads like this in the future. I'm actually surprised (and happy) that the moderators allowed us to keep this debate going!

Jim

 

[jtopicz1]

And even though I just said I thought we should end this debate I suddenly feel the need to rant again...hehe One thing I think many people who say "I would walk out" don't understand is:
1) This is only a 20 minute show (not a two hour theater epic). Sit and enjoy the stage props and ignore the actor's if the show isn't to your liking.
2) The show may be considered "offensive" by some but it is certainly not "R" rated. I agree the humor can be a bit twisted, but if your children are old enough to "get the joke", I'm sure they've heard it all before. I wouldn't say anything in the show is vulgar.
3) There are signs outside and the park guide describes what you should expect in the show. You know you are going to see a PG-13 event! Would you choose to go to a strip bar and then complain to management that you don't like what you see?


Thanks for listening,
Jim

 

[Sandyincanada]

We skipped this last year but now I'm curious. We'll be there in 9 days and now we'll have to check it out. LOL

 

[Beejayjay]

Its Ok my friend, you can use my handle, I think everyone has figured out who pissed you off dude !

I have a few points to raise about your reply to my previous post.

I was not suggesting I have any right to be rude or to think anybody deserves lesser treatment from me because of what they do. I will, however, forever assert my right to protest at poor service, poor quality or a poor performance.

You say at the end of your reply that we should "Respect peoples rights - all of them" - does that not include my right to let someone who is being paid to provide me with any kind of service know that I am not satisfied ?

I actually doubt very much if I personally would walk out on a performance, of any type, unless its content was so offensive that it may be a matter of law ! But I defend anybody's right to do so if they wish ! Personal right of choice matters to me rather more than offending the sensibilities of an actor or performer !

I love America, and find the people terrific - I also know that you are among the quickest of people to take issue with poor service, and quite rightly ! It was not till I came to your country that I realised just how bad service can be in my homeland !

And as for your list of do's and dont's, in the maybe 12 times I have been to the parks and all the various shows, the behaviour of the audience has been nothing but exemplary. That is one reason it is such a pleasure to go to the parks in Florida !

We will obviously never agree on the walking out issue, but please, please allow we other adults to express an opinion on any subject without taking it as a personal affront to you - that was never my intention, I was merely stating my opinion. I am not trying to impose my views on anyone, I was trying to suggest that just because we may disagree with another persons view, they should still be allowed to express it without being harangued by others who dont like that opinion ! Apologies if I upset you Loric !

One last point raised by the original post - if the performers did make fun of the people who walked out, yes I would agree that, without knowing what was said, that does appear to be disrespectful and unfair. However, I dont necessarily think it is that unusual or always unpleasant - anybody who has seen the warm up guys for the Clyde & Seymore show at Seaworld knows what I mean !

Ok; I've said my piece.. again !!
Lets not let this come between us Loric ! I hope to live in Florida some day, and I dont want to be looking over my shoulder for you at WDW or USF !

Happy New Year to All DISers !!

BJJ.

The Next 3 Days Cannot Go Quick Enough !!

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[This message was edited by Beejayjay on 01-01-01 at 08:36 PM.]

 

[Bob O]

Im sorry you didnt like the show but me and my family always have enjoyed the show and were very upset it wasnt running the day we were at universal studios florida. I like the fact it is a little more adult oriented and found it very funny, escpecially when then they pick a person from the crowd to use during their comedic bits. I would highly recommed the show to everyone and wish wdw would have some type of similiar entertainment. The last several years we saw the show they had the two same guys doing the show and they were great together.

 

[XAVIER]

Thanks for the warning Leia this doesn't sound like my kind of show - the content might have been interesting but the humour does sound a bit base (I like vulgar jokes as much as anyone but there is a time and a place for them). And thanks to Loric for pointing out that leaving would offend the actors, which I don't think would be the case so much over here. Personnally I would only leave if I could have sneaked out without bothering any of the other people in the audience but I would not have worried about what the actors thought!
Great thread - wonder how long it would have lasted on the Disney boards though?

Happy new year all!

 

[iamleia2]

I would just like to say a little in defense of the people who left. They were sitting in the back and they did try to just sneak out. It was the actors who drew attention to them so it's their own fault. What if they had had to go meet someone or something though? It is a theme park after all and our family usually splits up and meets back somewhere. My point is that I would think that they would be pretty used to people having to leave anyway, since it's a theme park. Some things are just more important then not offending the actors I believe. If it was a huge production, I could see your point, because it's also rude to those who are watching the show. But these people weren't bothering anyone, until the actors brought attention to it. Most people probably wouldn't have even noticed. But that's just my opinion. I didn't want people to hate these two strangers. They probably didn't think anything of it at the time and weren't trying to be rude. Thanks for posting everyone!

"The magic is as wide
as a smile and as
narrow as a wink, loud
as laughter and quiet
as a tear, tall as a tale
and deep as emotion.
So strong, it can lift the
spirit. So gentle, it can
touch the heart. It is the
magic that begins the
happily ever after."
THAT is Disney! ;-)

 

[KFISCHER]

APPARENTLY MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GIVING YOU HEAT MISSED THE WHOLE POINT HERE.

YOU DID A TRUE SERVICE BY INFORMING, AND HOPEFULLY, ENLIGHTENING PEOPLE ABOUT THIS ATTRACTION.

I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD BE CRITICIZED AT ALL FOR THAT. YOU PROVIDED INFORMATION THAT MANY OF US CAN NOW USE TO MAKE OUR OWN JUDGMENT.

AS FOR LORIC: I'VE BEEN TO MANY A THEATRICAL EVENT...NOWHERE ON THE TICKET DOES IT SAY I MUST SIT AND STAY FOR THE ENTIRE PERFORMANCE.

SORRY, LORIC. I DON'T LIKE IT, I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO GET UP AND LEAVE.

 

[JuviRex11]

Ok, Im not exactly what you'd call a major theatrical actor, but I have experience. In a few months I play Sir Edward Ramsay in a production of The King and I. I would be rather pissed if a group of people walked out. I have worked hard memorizing lines and them doing that draws attention away from the stage. And its not just leaving either, they probably whispered before they left to each other in order to communicate their feelings, once again disrupting the actors. My opinion is to grin and bear it. And for you people who strongly complain to everyone, I'm sorry, but it is not Universal's duty to please every single person. Everyone has different tastes, and if you dont like it, oh well, you just wasted $42. Count your loses and go on ET again.

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[Beejayjay]

"Those of you who complain to everyone" ?

The inference of your statement is that any one who ever complains is whinging for the sake of it. Have you been so fortunate that you have never been in a situation where you are unhappy with a product you have purchased, a meal you have bought or a show/performance you have seen ? Lucky you ! Unfortunately not all of us have your good fortune. If you have and did not complain, then how will can the person or company providing the item/service in question ever improve ? Is a teacher that corrects an error in a pupils work just doing it for the sake of it or to help the pupil improve ?

And you are right to say that Universal is not duty bound to provide entertainment that every single visitor will enjoy or find appropriate, indeed that is an impossibilty ! However, they do have a duty to provide you with a quality of service/performance that is appropriate to what they advertise it as and charge for it. I believe they more than do that, but that does not mean the person next to me agrees, and it must be his or her right to say so if they wish ! You can argue the point with them but you cannot deny them the right to express their own opinion just because we may not agree.

Good luck with the play dude !

BJJ.

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[This message was edited by Beejayjay on 01-03-01 at 06:38 AM.]

 

[Mare]

We've gone to this show twice, once in '99, once in '00.

Thought it was great in '99, less so in '00 because it's basically the same show--kind of like watching a repeat (not too many surprises, and therefore would most likely not go back next trip)--although we did have 2 different sets of actors, both very good and entertaining.

I assumed before the show that my big concern would be how scary or gross it would be for our 3 kids, especially my youngest (7). Nothing he, or the others, couldn't handle. I basically based my decision to go on the Unofficial Guide, which gives a positive review; we went to see for ourselves, and we enjoyed it.

Never heard a joke we thought of as "vulgar". I restrict what my kids watch on TV--how much they watch, what they watch, and then if necessary, turn it off as soon as something unexpectedly inappropriate comes on. I'm sure some of this show went over my DSs head...a lot in life does! lol I don't recall anything specific, because there just wasn't--when we went--anything that left a negative impression.

The most humor came from the hosts' interaction with the person in the audience that they chose to participate, and boy, did they make good choices! Very funny, and the participants seem to get a real kick out of it.

If I had to leave to meet someone else, and was asked why I was leaving, I'd just go with the flow and say...uh..."I have to leave to meet someone else." Although, I wouldn't think of entering a show that I'd have to walk out of, especially when the times are clearly stated.

It's a small, closed theater, and it does make it "noticeable" when someone leaves; there's also an intimacy to this show--the actors are talking TO the audience, and I'd have to really be po'd before I'd walk away from anyone talking TO me. And maybe these people were...and maybe they just have less respect for performers, and were leaving because they wanted to do something else instead; who knows. But it's not like many of the "open" theaters where people kind of come and go. If you're walking out, you're making a statement, and since it is comedy, the comedians are very likely to...uh...make a joke about it.

BTW, one of the hosts we saw was also in the film at the Triceratops Encounter.

[This message was edited by Mare on 01-03-01 at 10:00 AM.]

 

[Nan]

Wow! We saw this show in August and there was a guy and a girl doing it. As I remember, we really enjoyed it. I can't remember them doing hairy butt or viagra jokes. I will think twice before recommending it since things have obviously changed, though. We did learn things about how they make fake blood and several other things. Anyway, Rob, if I have paid to see a show and the people on stage are offending me, I could care less if I offend them by leaving.