VWL Groupies & Lovers Thread (Special Collectors Edition 2.5) updated 2 February 2025

Our 60 day mark for April comes up this Saturday.... Check in and FP's :). And we could care LESS about construction - staying at VWL :).
I'm just worried about our CM Friends at WC & AP.... Hunphrey's is sort of showing the Lodge as a Ghost Town :(. And those folks need the tip income for their families :(.
 
Our 60 day mark for April comes up this Saturday.... Check in and FP's :). And we could care LESS about construction - staying at VWL :).
I'm just worried about our CM Friends at WC & AP.... Hunphrey's is sort of showing the Lodge as a Ghost Town :(. And those folks need the tip income for their families :(.
For us, not staying during construction wasn't an option as we hadn't stayed at "home" for nearly three years save one night before our last cruise. We missed the Lodge. We are missing the Hidden Springs pool and hot tub, missing the nature trail, missing not being able to stroll the grounds of the Lodge except the front and main pool, and missing the trees (and beach!). Still, our room is clean, huge, and in a great location. Oh, and I just watched the EWP and could see the entire train of floats nearly unobstructed save for a few, sparse, still-standing trees. There does seem to be fewer people at the Lodge, in general, but WCC and RF seemed very busy both times we walked by (lunch & dinner). We eat at AP Sunday night after the race. Oh, one more aggravating note: now the geese topiaries are gone! I get the distinct feeling that all of these topiaries--the geese, the buffalo, and DVC Mickey--may be gone for good. My guess is the cost to upkeep them didn't sit right with the bean counters. While VWL and the Lodge remain dear to me, my heart sinks a bit each time I see relics of a more serene time disappear. Finally, I'll end with a late-breaking report from some source Luv just read that says all of the sold out DVC properties except HHI and Vero will go for an extra $5 per point starting next week, with the range of $140 (OKW, SSR) to $180 (VGF, BLT). VWL will be $160. Yowser.
 
Our 60 day mark for April comes up this Saturday.... Check in and FP's :). And we could care LESS about construction - staying at VWL :).
I'm just worried about our CM Friends at WC & AP.... Hunphrey's is sort of showing the Lodge as a Ghost Town :(. And those folks need the tip income for their families :(.

So growing up in a restaurant family Dean, I know how that can be. If it helps a little I will say, if you work in the industry for any length of time you know all about the ebbs and flows. Hopefully they have adjusted some what, not that it's easy. lol, when I first moved to a new state my employee somehow forgot to take out state taxes for 6 months. :rolleyes1 when they caught their mistake (after I notified them 3X's :furious:) they took them out in one big whoop. OOh how nice, a paycheck for 217.00 for the month, this should be interesting.

Anyhoo, I guess I'm guilty also, as a standard practice no matter where I vacation, I tend to run once I get wind of "construction". One of those ironies of life, everyone wants hotels to be nice and updated.... no one wants to be there when that happens.

Let's keep our fingers crossed that the CM's come through this with flying colors. people are also what make the lodge special
 

:lmao:As to what is happening at our beloved Lodge, one is either verklempt or pisk . . no middle of the road! :lmao:(couldn't help myself . . .sorry)
Will admit that I had to look up the word pisk. You're right, either one or the other. :worried::chat:

Day Two: Started early as we were up by 6:15 and hitting EMH at MK by 7:50. Unlike past EMHs during busy seasons, the only Lands open were Fantasyland and Tomorrowland. However, they had opened up the park about five minutes earlier than our arrival, so Fantasyland was already booming. We opted for Buzz and rode him twice back to back. After that, it was Starbucks, people watching, then off to Liberty Square for HM. . .only it wasn't working (the theme for the day). So, POTC was up next followed by Tiki Room. Went back by HM (still not working) and opted for Philharmagic. At that point, it was time for us to head over to DHS for lunch after a quick stop at the Lodge. We were at the boat launch by 10:25 but had no boat for half an hour as one of them apparently was down since the one we finally secured looked like a floating barge with a roof. Our quick stop at the Lodge took a few minutes longer as we stopped by DVC desk for grins and the rep there talked us into meeting with a sales center person later that afternoon. The reward for what wound up being about 30 minutes talking to the sales rep? Three FPs for both of us good anywhere, any ride, for the next 72 hours. We chose to go to Poly in order to view the bungalows.

We did lunch at Brown Derby, got picked up by the DVC staff backstage there (cool!), and then toured a bungalow. Wow. Gorgeous but pricey, of course. The special offer going on? An extra 10 points for minimum 100 point purchase with points at $168 per. Uh, no. But we did score our FPs and weren't pressured at all, so worth the extra effort. Oh, while at DHS, ToT was down for a bit, so our FP at 1 was good anytime after the ride came back up which was shortly before 2. FP line took 25 minutes as only two elevators were working, while the standby line wait was 2 hours. . .and there were tons of people in that line! RnR went smoothly, but when we got on Star Tours, the ride started then shut down at the very moment Darth appears, sticks out his hand, and says we can't leave due to a rebel on board. Five minutes later, the ride restarted. Dinner tonight was Coral Reef and it was quite good, actually, especially the grilled octopus appetizer. Topnotch!

As for Disney news, I'm still seething a bit that the geese topiaries have also disappeared, especially since we had noted that at least those were still there a mere six weeks ago. Construction has laid some vertical piping, especially the northwest corner of the zone which I'm guessing might be plumbing for bathrooms? On the southeast corner of the zone, along where the nature trail used to be, a dozer was digging a large hole yesterday, but it was filled in today and covered over with sand. As for the cabins being built, based on our observations along the shore line near the north wing of the Lodge as we boated over to MK, there is still a line of trees along that stretch leading us to believe that for there to be any actual view toward MK, those would have to come down. Since they haven't, I'd venture a guess they may take down a couple of trees or three to place a cabin there but leave trees between cabins. Someone with construction experience might have a different thought. Also, while speaking with the DVC sales rep during our tour of the Poly bungalow, I asked if he knew what the cabin configuration would be at VWL II. Though he didn't know specifics, he did say that DVC "had learned its lesson about not building 1BR & 2BR suites" at the Poly, implying that some of the converted Lodge rooms would be 1 and 2 BRs. This comment, along with the new Poly offer, the fact that the Poly hasn't sold out (it has 340+ studios), the knowledge that the bungalows aren't solidly booked ("easy to get at 7 months" said our rep, plus he mentioned the bungalow we viewed is almost never booked), and the fact that 6-8 rooms on the bottom floor of one of the PVB studio buildings are devoted to DVC staff and studio models indicate to me that PVB studio sales are underwhelming. Easy math tells you why: say you buy the 100 points (plus 10 extra) for nearly $17K, then all you get is a week in a studio during Adventure Season. Those points won't get you a single night in a bungalow unless you bank and borrow. Doing so would give you two nights during Adventure Season every three years with a few points left over to spend in a studio about three nights. That's steep, my friends, although both the studios and bungalows are very, very nice.
 
I made the trek across the country and arrived at Disney World late this afternoon. Pretty uneventful trip and it was a little bit breezy when I arrived so just a touch cooler than I expected. I'm at VGF tonight before moving over to BWV. My one request was high floor, so, I have ground floor. Kind of like VWL where I always requested lakeside and always got the bus side. :-) I was pretty hungry after arriving so I went to Gasparilla grill and had a Cuban sandwich. Their version is not something that I would be able to recommend. :( After that I walked over to the Poly and got a lapu-lapu! Something I can always recommend. :-) My original plan was to head over to the Magic Kingdom for a few rides but I ended up scrapping that idea and just spending some relaxing time around the resorts. Here's a couple of pictures that I took and uploaded which I don't think I've done before so hopefully it comes out okay. On my walk back from the poly to VGF I stopped and watched wishes from the beach between the two. No music but a very nice view. And later I got a side view of the nightly water parade as it came around for the Poly.20160219_180151.jpg 20160219_181817.jpg 20160219_200940.jpg 20160219_210132.jpg
 
Great pics, Kat! Sorry we haven't worked out any plans to perhaps meet you, but we've been skipping around and being spontaneous between set FPs and ADRs. We've likely crossed paths and not known it! Today, we slept in, hit AK briefly (can't miss EE), and then went to Sanaa for an early lunch--it's hard to beat the bread service which we use as our meal. Now, we're resting--though we've done little today--before dinner and an early turn-in since the race is tomorrow--we're catching the bus at 3:30 a.m.! That morning comment reminds me: the Territory Lounge Coffee Shop was short-lived, apparently, as it no longer exists. Given we didn't pack our coffee this trip since we thought we had that place, it's particularly annoying. Oh, well.
 
That's sad news about the coffee bar sleepy. Maybe they stopped it since the construction has the lodge half full? I just stopped by there and it seems a bit like a ghost town compare to everywhere else I've been. Sorry to not get a chance to meet! Hope the race goes well!
 
With all the construction sadness, I have come to terms with a silver lining. After staying at the Poly in October I must say that I loved the remodel & the new amenities (even though the new quiet pool wasn't open yet I could see how it was going to turn out). The walkways were beautiful and I loved the grill/picnic area. Not a fan of the Bungalows.

Point being, if VWL2 gets done right all of us VWL originals are going to get to enjoy all of the improvements without paying the ever increasing price / point -- And that could be the silver lining! So, as long as they do a great job we should be able to enjoy a reimagined version of our spectacular resort!

Hmm...I don't know how I came across so optomistic today given the nasty cold I have...anyways, happy weekend to all the groupies!
 
Gotta comment on "WL Empty" - WE will be there in April, at the original, not to be duplicated VWL :). We also have NOVEMBER booked :).
Yes, things look a little dark right now.... so I would encourage people to remember.....

the hub.

THREE YEARS OF DRESDEN in 1942. It was beat to DEATH, walls everywhere.... and look at it today.

We'll get our Lodge back, and then some. New SIG, new plantings.... it WILL work out :).
I just continue to worry about our friends.... CMs in the WL Restaurants :(. These people ceased to be "staff" a good 10 years ago. Our intention is to go for "idiot tips" in April (an "idiot tip" is defined as a tip in excess of the meal price :)). Just can't do anything else - SOMEONE needs to help those folks through an event that is FAR worse for them, than us :(.
 
Thanks sleepy and Kathy for your reports! Nice to see your pictures, Kathy. Hope you both enjoy your stays!

Sorry to hear about the coffee shop being closed :( DDad and I stopped during our December trip. Honestly we weren't impressed and left without purchasing anything. Good luck with your race!
 
Hi All,

Thanks again for your continued prayers and kind words....they are truly appreciated:grouphug:
Dad was moved to rehab again yesterday, and we are all praying he will become strong enough to go home, but we honestly don't know if that will happen.

Kathy and Sleepy, enjoying your trip reports--enjoy. I am able to book our September trip this week so I'm excited about that.

To all thinking about moving to FL, we are right there with you. As Julie said, this winter is nothing like last winter (thank you Lord), but we definitely hope to have a little place for the winter months. I don't think we could live there all year.

Hope you all have a nice Sunday.

PS- don't forget the Wonderful World of Disney Disneyland special tonight!
 
So JT tell me about winters in NC. I know you mentioned you're ready to not have snow in your retirement. That sounds so strange to those of us that live in the NE area. We don't think of NC as being a particularly snowy place. DH & I were just discussing retirement living again this morning. I'm not sure why we've never discussed this before. I'm thinking FL or somewhere south & news to me he's thinking winter around the world. Literally. His thought is how about one year we do a month in Barcelona, next year a month in Italy, etc, etc. What???!!! This is news to me! As I mentioned this is why we'll be meeting with a financial planner. Let us see what is realistic & what is a pipe dream. Somehow I'm thinking winters around the world is a pipe dream.

Sleepy - your posts aren't gving me the warm & fuzzies! :tilt: Sorry for all the ride issues. I hope you're wrong about the topiaries. Sometimes they do take them away in winter but they've always come back. I'm down in 2 weeks. I'll check it out.

Corrine :hug:

Have a great Sunday groupie friends.
 
Gotta comment on "WL Empty" - WE will be there in April, at the original, not to be duplicated VWL :). We also have NOVEMBER booked :).
Yes, things look a little dark right now.... so I would encourage people to remember.....

the hub.

THREE YEARS OF DRESDEN in 1942. It was beat to DEATH, walls everywhere.... and look at it today.

We'll get our Lodge back, and then some. New SIG, new plantings.... it WILL work out :).
I just continue to worry about our friends.... CMs in the WL Restaurants :(. These people ceased to be "staff" a good 10 years ago. Our intention is to go for "idiot tips" in April (an "idiot tip" is defined as a tip in excess of the meal price :)). Just can't do anything else - SOMEONE needs to help those folks through an event that is FAR worse for them, than us :(.

I have a theory on the whole "new signature restaurant" business down at the beach. Because Wilderness is not on the monorail (something I consider a strength, not a weakness) I find it very unlikely that it can support two Signature restaurants. So, assuming the new one at the beach is signature I submit that Artists Point is potentially in trouble. And I say this because I've never seen it full. I believe it's entirely possible that they close AP, and convert it to a brand new QS to replace Roaring Fork (which is way to small to begin with). Then, when that is complete, Roaring Fork closes and they construct a Western themed saloon where us adults could go and wet our whistle ( I am envisioning something right out of a Clint Eastwood Western...complete with staff playing their parts...)

Anyways, maybe I am dreaming, but it makes sense to me...
 
Interesting theory, rkstocke. My thoughts do vary a little. If, indeed, a restaurant does go into there, they have one of few options. First, they could put a new 1TS restaurant there, but that hardly seems plausible. Two, they move RF there as an expansion. Perhaps, but why waste primo space on a QS? Third, they could put a new Signature restaurant there, but that would, as you say, seem to be the end of AP. Quite possible. Another theory, and one I'm going with until told otherwise, is AP will move to that location while RF moves from its cramped location to AP's current spot. It gives AP more cachet, RF more room, and seems logical. . .at least to me. pirate: I suppose the old adage "time will tell" applies here.

P.S Luv and I finished the half marathon, albeit a bit more slowly than we'd hoped. You gotta build in time for potty breaks, pictures, and hordes of people you're trying to get around while many others attempt t get around you.
 
Interesting theory, rkstocke. My thoughts do vary a little. If, indeed, a restaurant does go into there, they have one of few options. First, they could put a new 1TS restaurant there, but that hardly seems plausible. Two, they move RF there as an expansion. Perhaps, but why waste primo space on a QS? Third, they could put a new Signature restaurant there, but that would, as you say, seem to be the end of AP. Quite possible. Another theory, and one I'm going with until told otherwise, is AP will move to that location while RF moves from its cramped location to AP's current spot. It gives AP more cachet, RF more room, and seems logical. . .at least to me. pirate: I suppose the old adage "time will tell" applies here.

P.S Luv and I finished the half marathon, albeit a bit more slowly than we'd hoped. You gotta build in time for potty breaks, pictures, and hordes of people you're trying to get around while many others attempt t get around you.
Sleepy,

Sounds like we are thinking along the same lines -- I'm just adding a saloon in the current RF location...think of it like the Wilderness version of Trader Sam's. Maybe the mountings on the walls will sing to you or make smart a** comments when you order specialty drinks...kinda like being at Country Bear Jamboree. Oh, even better, when you come into the bar you get handed an electronic gun instead of an NTN Trivia computer. Then while you are there different things pop up while you are enjoying your adult beverage to shoot at....kinda like being inside a shooting gallery.

This could be really cool! I hope imagineers are monitoring this thread!

-Ron
 
Julie
NC winters can be mild, def. in comparison to NE states. No comparison IMO. But, but, it can get bad here. 2' or more of snow is possible. But here is the worst, sleet and freezing rain. Freezing rain can cause loss of power for days, heck weeks for that matter. Sleet, which is what we have had more recently, causes havoc on the roads. And the more drivers we have here, the crazier it gets. People fly by you on the interstates, you creeping along, they are running hwy speed, lo and behold , you will see them in a ditch up the road!
Mt Mitchell got 66" of snow a few weeks ago, where we live gets blocked by some major stuff so the mountains help curb some of the worst from the west. But when we get cold from west or north along with gulf coast water storms brewing in moisture, look out!
My nephew grew up here but is currently in Rochester NY and has already experienced some pretty rough winters including last year. He told me recently how he gets made fun of being from the south, how we cant drive in it etc. He said he does better in 6' of dry snow driving rather than 2" of the wet stuff that freezes up here. Traction is the key. It literally gets like an ice rink here. Not sure why?

But it can be warm here too. Today is 68, unusual, but will take it all winter long. Usually we will pay for a warm day or 2, a week later the deep freeze will hit. My age is telling on me as I need warm a lot more than before. If you are serious about a move to NC, I would seriously head towards the piedmont area, as the mountains and even the coast get some snows we wont get. Raleigh, east and South of that line, are apt to get more than us when it does come from the gulf.
 
Julie
NC winters can be mild, def. in comparison to NE states. No comparison IMO. But, but, it can get bad here. 2' or more of snow is possible. But here is the worst, sleet and freezing rain. Freezing rain can cause loss of power for days, heck weeks for that matter. Sleet, which is what we have had more recently, causes havoc on the roads. And the more drivers we have here, the crazier it gets. People fly by you on the interstates, you creeping along, they are running hwy speed, lo and behold , you will see them in a ditch up the road!
Mt Mitchell got 66" of snow a few weeks ago, where we live gets blocked by some major stuff so the mountains help curb some of the worst from the west. But when we get cold from west or north along with gulf coast water storms brewing in moisture, look out!
My nephew grew up here but is currently in Rochester NY and has already experienced some pretty rough winters including last year. He told me recently how he gets made fun of being from the south, how we cant drive in it etc. He said he does better in 6' of dry snow driving rather than 2" of the wet stuff that freezes up here. Traction is the key. It literally gets like an ice rink here. Not sure why?

But it can be warm here too. Today is 68, unusual, but will take it all winter long. Usually we will pay for a warm day or 2, a week later the deep freeze will hit. My age is telling on me as I need warm a lot more than before. If you are serious about a move to NC, I would seriously head towards the piedmont area, as the mountains and even the coast get some snows we wont get. Raleigh, east and South of that line, are apt to get more than us when it does come from the gulf.

Thanks Jimmy! A little unfair for people to make fun of those from the south. You're not prepared to handle the weather the way we are in the north. Makes sense to me. From my perspective it doesn't make sense for your town to spend their resources on plows ice trucks maybe. Ice is the worst. Days without power doesn't sound fun. We lost power a couple weeks ago during a storm. Almost 24 hours. We were frozen! If it had not come back on before dark we would have had to go somewhere. No way we could have spent another night in the house.

I don't know where that perfect retirement place is but it's got to be out there somewhere!
 
Wow - a lot of great ideas!

AP out to the beach; RF moves to AP; Saloon in the ol' RF spot. I like it. Not so sure Disney will go for the Shootin' gallery part. Very politically incorrect now days . . .
 



















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