Visiting New York advice

Hey Vickie,
another Native New Yorker here and another vote for ditching ABD. lol heck for that kinda money pm me and I'll be your tour guide. New York City is ridiculously easy to navigate. hey about 10 million people in the city, we've got to be able to move.

I just saw Wicked over the Christmas holiday, as others have said if this is a must see, shell out the money and order tickets.
Also if you have time check out tkts and see what is available. my sons (21 and 24) have seen some really great plays just by being flexible.
9/11 museum. I have done that twice. never had any crazy wait, once again can't see how front of the line tickets would be worth the cost.

There are too many museums to begin to name. Of course the have an excellent natural history museum. MOMA is fantastic and one of my favorites along with the Whitney.

LOL ok I'm going to be the materialistic wheezle of the group. SHOPPING!! lol you're in NYC, walk up and down 5th ave, Rockerfeller center. even if you don't buy, window shopping is fun.

Another goofy favorite of mine is Grand Central terminal. absolutely gorgeous and a ton of places to eat and yep it's a train station
 
Staying in Brooklyn is also an option. Hotels are cheaper and you can just hop on the subway. Plus the Brooklyn botanical garden is beautiful. Many of the museums are free on certain nights or days. You can get a list in a local tourist paper We just happened to go to the Guggenheim one afternoon and it was free. Plus there was music. We had a glass of wine and just hung out. It was great. And the Frick is my favorite museum. It's s mansion with a wonderful courtyard. Very quiet and lovely. NY is just a great place to walk and watch. Harlem, TriBeCa, the village are so much fun to wander around. And the garment district is great. Lots of bargains. We also love the circle line boat tour around the island. Consider the plaza for tea or the Russian tea room for lunch. Go to the library and just walk around. It's beautiful. Walk thru Central Park. I forget the restaurant name but there's a great place for brunch not far from the big pond. Wonderful Bloody Mary!
 
Check out 'Escape the Room' on Yelp, it looks fab for teens and is totally on my to do list with my own 16 & 17 year olds.

If you go to Museum of Natural History and I would recommend it make sure you do not miss the planetarium.

If you're going to do the 911 museum I would pick a day that you're not looking to do anything else, maybe a travel day, because you probably want to make room for the emotional solemn reflection that will likely follow. I haven't gone there yet because I want to make sure I am in the right frame of mind.

I'm not a fan of the subway but there is now UBER in New York City and I loved it in Boston so I would do that. Not knocking the subway but it is definitely an acquired taste & I am not so sure out of towner's are always prepared for it. Just look for user reviews of drivers.

The pod hotels look awesome & rate well on user review sites, I haven't done it because are still a family of four but for two it's definitely a good option.

But also consider Airbnb. I have friends who use it all the time and love it. However do not go to the surrounding boroughs & stick with the trendy wealthy multicultural/varied lifestyle areas of Soho & West Village where owners are likely off vacationing someplace fabulous. Make sure the reviews are numerous and solid; No nj and no boroughs. Not to say there aren't amazing areas everywhere, of course there are, but before anybody goes and gets offended you have to admit if you're not from there and you don't know what you're doing you could end up next to or in a trap house and those are less prevalent in Tribeca and the West Village because it's so expensive to live there.
 
ok, so here is my sample itinerary for you. This is based on the trip I did with my mum and aunt with a few bits that I did with my friends on a different trip

You haven't specified what dates you are planning so I have based this on arriving Monday 18 July and leaving Thursday 21 July

The ABD has meals included but to me this is totally unnecessary as in the area of Times Square / central Manhattan there are sooo many restaurants covering all types of budgets and tastes.

You will just need to literally go to Google maps and zoom in on the area of Times Square and you will see all the restaurants

Hotel
Wellington Hotel http://wellingtonhotel.com/
871 Seventh Avenue at 55th Street
New York, NY 10019 - USA
Tel: +1 212 247 3900
1 standard room 2 beds 2 adults approx $240 per night
24 hour Valet Parking (as you mentioned driving to New York)

Arrival Day
  1. Hotel check in is 4pm
  2. 5 pm approx leave hotel after refreshing in room
  3. Walk down 7th Avenue to Times Square
  4. Find a restaurant for evening meal
  5. Go to the Hop On Hop Off bus tour ticket place at Times Square. http://eng.bigbustours.com/newyork/home.html and buy Tickets for next day. There are 4 routes check out the map here http://eng.bigbustours.com/UploadedFiles/New_York_Map_Jan_2016_201601082526.pdf I would advise you to get the Liberty One World Observation 2 day ticket. This gives you entry tickets for Liberty Island and OWO included in the price . You pay for your bus ticket, get on the bus. The bus drives around, and there is a tour guide on the bus who talks about the streets , areas buildings you drive past. The bus will then stop at a place of interest, ie The Empire State Building. If you want to go to this attraction or just want to explore the area, you get off the bus. You will need to buy a separate entrance ticket for the attractions. Check out the bus website as they have discount tickets available to buy for most attractions on their website. When you have been to the attraction, go back to the bus stop you got off at and get back on the next bus that comes along to continue the tour.
  6. Take in the sights and sounds of Times Square, wander through some of the shops
  7. Early night

Day 2
  1. After breakfast head out for the day
  2. Walk back to the Hop On Hop off bus stop in Times Square and get on the RED / Downtown route
  3. Get off at stop 4 Empire State Building http://www.esbnyc.com/
  4. Go up to the observation deck and see the amazing sights, do some shopping in the gift shop approx 2 hours
  5. When you are done there, go back to stop 4 and get on the next bus that turns up.
  6. Continue on the tour to Stop 12 Battery Park
  7. Get off here for the ferry to Statue of Liberty and Elis Island. You will need approx 4 hours to visit both so its best to do this in the early afternoon
  8. Get the Ferry back to Battery Park and walk to One World Observatory and Ground Zero https://oneworldobservatory.com/
  9. After One World Observatory and Ground Zero get the subway from One World Trade Center station back to Times Square Station
  10. Have evening meal
  11. Walk to Rockefeller Center https://www.rockefellercenter.com/
  12. After Rockefeller Center back to hotel

Day 3
  1. After breakfast head out for the day
  2. Walk back to the Hop On Hop off bus stop in Times Square and get on the Yellow / Uptown route
  3. Stay on to stop 15 Rockefeller Center , get off here to see St Patricks Catherdral http://saintpatrickscathedral.org/ and Radio City Music Hall http://www.radiocity.com/
  4. When you are done in this area, get back on the bus at stop 15 and continue to stop 19.
  5. Get off at stop 19 for American Museum of Natural History http://www.amnh.org/
  6. When you are done at the Museum, get back on the bus at stop 19
  7. The rest of the stops are 22 Apollo Theatre Harlem https://www.apollotheater.org/ 23 Museum of the City of New York http://www.mcny.org/ (this would be a far better experience than the Dinner At The Tenament from ABD) 24 Guggenheim Museum of Art http://www.guggenheim.org 25 Metropolitan Museum of Art http://www.metmuseum.org/ 26 The Frick Museum http://www.frick.org/ 27 Central Park
  8. Once you are finished with the tour, head back to Times Square for your Broadway show and evening meal

Day 4
Departure Day
 

Another note, New Yorkers aren't the horrible people that they're often made out to be on TV and Movies and New York isn't scary at all. I've seen TONS of tourists stop and ask natives for directions and I've never seen anyone be nasty!! I (a young-ish woman) have walked around alone at night and never once been afraid for my safety in the more populated areas.

Like others have said, it's easy to get around, the streets are numbered. Subways can be a bit confusing, but the locals are generally very helpful. It seems intimidating, but it's really not!!

I was in NYC last July and it was HOT - like in the upper 90's and with all the tall buildings you don't get much airflow in many places (but there is a lot of shade). That isn't common though. And yes, summer in NYC does get smelly, but it's a NYC smell and is all part of the experience.

The Natural History museum is a whole day to itself. It's awesome. Of course my son could spend the whole day just at the dinosaurs!

One of my favorite NYC "hidden gems" is the Cloisters museum. It's a bit of a hike through a park from the subway and when you're there it's hard to remember that you're just a few minutes from the steel skyscrapers of Manhattan!
 
Just did big inlaw trip to NY for MIL's 70th birthday gift. We booked a hotel on Expedia...Four Points Sheraton Midtown-Times Square. Was a good price and nicely located. We took the amtrak train from BWI to Penn Station. We could walk to Times Square and to see a Broadway show (saw Wicked). We bought City Pass and took Taxi up to do 9/11 Memorial and then over to do Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. We walked to and from 5th Ave as well. Took taxi to eat lunch at Katz's Deli and then walked to Chinatown. Taxis are expensive but easier than trying to figure out subway. We did take Subway back from Ellis Island and got a bit off track but ended up seeing Grand Central Station. Don't let on that your a newbie tourist with taxi driver or they will take the scenic route and cost you a lot more (we had that happen). Say the street intersection you want and NOT the place (like don't say 'take me to Statue of Liberty'). You may know this. It was my first trip to NY so it was all new to me. SIL has been quite a bit so she knew the ropes.
 
Forgot to mention: If you daughter is a Beatles fan, make sure to stop at Strawberry Fields and the Dakota- walking distance to the MET and Museum of Natural History.
Get the Wicked tickets ahead of time, it really is a must see (also, go read the book now, by Gregory Maguire- best book ever!). We've entered the Wicked lottery several dozen times, and we have won once. For a teen girl, I would also recommend Les Mis (currently an updated version- same songs/plot, but the sets are new and a lot of projections are used),Phantom of the Opera, Book of Mormon and surprisingly, Finding Neverland (much better than expected). For Les Mis and Phantom you can get tickets easily the day of.

ETA: I just looked up the prices of ABD trips and almost fell off the couch.
 
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Check out 'Escape the Room' on Yelp, it looks fab for teens and is totally on my to do list with my own 16 & 17 year olds.

If you go to Museum of Natural History and I would recommend it make sure you do not miss the planetarium.

If you're going to do the 911 museum I would pick a day that you're not looking to do anything else, maybe a travel day, because you probably want to make room for the emotional solemn reflection that will likely follow. I haven't gone there yet because I want to make sure I am in the right frame of mind.

I'm not a fan of the subway but there is now UBER in New York City and I loved it in Boston so I would do that. Not knocking the subway but it is definitely an acquired taste & I am not so sure out of towner's are always prepared for it. Just look for user reviews of drivers.

The pod hotels look awesome & rate well on user review sites, I haven't done it because are still a family of four but for two it's definitely a good option.

But also consider Airbnb. I have friends who use it all the time and love it. However do not go to the surrounding boroughs & stick with the trendy wealthy multicultural/varied lifestyle areas of Soho & West Village where owners are likely off vacationing someplace fabulous. Make sure the reviews are numerous and solid; No nj and no boroughs. Not to say there aren't amazing areas everywhere, of course there are, but before anybody goes and gets offended you have to admit if you're not from there and you don't know what you're doing you could end up next to or in a trap house and those are less prevalent in Tribeca and the West Village because it's so expensive to live there.


Thanks! Uber was fantastic for us in LA glad to hear NYC has it too! Yes, I am not a subway person or honestly a bus person hence the hop on and off bus tours aren't appealing to me...but I am sure UBer or the subway if needed can get me there. If the Escape Room is that crazy they lock you in a room and you have to get out before the Zombie gets you...um no thanks!!! We have that around here and the commercials are terrifying!!! :)
 
just saw Wicked over the Christmas holiday, as others have said if this is a must see, shell out the money and order tickets.
Also if you have time check out tkts and see what is available. my sons (21 and 24) have seen some really great plays just by being flexible.
9/11 museum. I have done that twice. never had any crazy wait, once again can't see how front of the line tickets would be worth the cost


THanks I checked on DH's employer website and all kind of broadway shows are listed at a nice savings and nice seating. Wicked and Les Mis for DD for sure! I have seen many Broadway plays in NYC in my 20's with DH. Honestly I never really enjoyed them and I couldn't wait to get out of the city. Never toured it or really even COUNTED it as a visit. We always just drove in for the night and left (at the time only 90 minutes from NYC). So this is my first REAL trip and don't want my negative opinion of the buses, subway etc. to cloud it....
 
ETA: I just looked up the prices of ABD trips and almost fell off the couch.
Yeah I know...not cheap. We really enjoyed the Backstage Magic one last summer, really really worth the cost. Struggling a little on this NYC one. If it included ONE MORE DAY and we visited Ellis and Statue of Liberty I would be ok with it more than I am...
 
ok, so here is my sample itinerary for you. This is based on the trip I did with my mum and aunt with a few bits that I did with my friends on a different trip

You haven't specified what dates you are planning so I have based this on arriving Monday 18 July and leaving Thursday 21 July

The ABD has meals included but to me this is totally unnecessary as in the area of Times Square / central Manhattan there are sooo many restaurants covering all types of budgets and tastes.

You will just need to literally go to Google maps and zoom in on the area of Times Square and you will see all the restaurants

Hotel
Wellington Hotel http://wellingtonhotel.com/
871 Seventh Avenue at 55th Street
New York, NY 10019 - USA
Tel: +1 212 247 3900
1 standard room 2 beds 2 adults approx $240 per night
24 hour Valet Parking (as you mentioned driving to New York)

Arrival Day
  1. Hotel check in is 4pm
  2. 5 pm approx leave hotel after refreshing in room
  3. Walk down 7th Avenue to Times Square
  4. Find a restaurant for evening meal
  5. Go to the Hop On Hop Off bus tour ticket place at Times Square. http://eng.bigbustours.com/newyork/home.html and buy Tickets for next day. There are 4 routes check out the map here http://eng.bigbustours.com/UploadedFiles/New_York_Map_Jan_2016_201601082526.pdf I would advise you to get the Liberty One World Observation 2 day ticket. This gives you entry tickets for Liberty Island and OWO included in the price . You pay for your bus ticket, get on the bus. The bus drives around, and there is a tour guide on the bus who talks about the streets , areas buildings you drive past. The bus will then stop at a place of interest, ie The Empire State Building. If you want to go to this attraction or just want to explore the area, you get off the bus. You will need to buy a separate entrance ticket for the attractions. Check out the bus website as they have discount tickets available to buy for most attractions on their website. When you have been to the attraction, go back to the bus stop you got off at and get back on the next bus that comes along to continue the tour.
  6. Take in the sights and sounds of Times Square, wander through some of the shops
  7. Early night

Day 2
  1. After breakfast head out for the day
  2. Walk back to the Hop On Hop off bus stop in Times Square and get on the RED / Downtown route
  3. Get off at stop 4 Empire State Building http://www.esbnyc.com/
  4. Go up to the observation deck and see the amazing sights, do some shopping in the gift shop approx 2 hours
  5. When you are done there, go back to stop 4 and get on the next bus that turns up.
  6. Continue on the tour to Stop 12 Battery Park
  7. Get off here for the ferry to Statue of Liberty and Elis Island. You will need approx 4 hours to visit both so its best to do this in the early afternoon
  8. Get the Ferry back to Battery Park and walk to One World Observatory and Ground Zero https://oneworldobservatory.com/
  9. After One World Observatory and Ground Zero get the subway from One World Trade Center station back to Times Square Station
  10. Have evening meal
  11. Walk to Rockefeller Center https://www.rockefellercenter.com/
  12. After Rockefeller Center back to hotel

Day 3
  1. After breakfast head out for the day
  2. Walk back to the Hop On Hop off bus stop in Times Square and get on the Yellow / Uptown route
  3. Stay on to stop 15 Rockefeller Center , get off here to see St Patricks Catherdral http://saintpatrickscathedral.org/ and Radio City Music Hall http://www.radiocity.com/
  4. When you are done in this area, get back on the bus at stop 15 and continue to stop 19.
  5. Get off at stop 19 for American Museum of Natural History http://www.amnh.org/
  6. When you are done at the Museum, get back on the bus at stop 19
  7. The rest of the stops are 22 Apollo Theatre Harlem https://www.apollotheater.org/ 23 Museum of the City of New York http://www.mcny.org/ (this would be a far better experience than the Dinner At The Tenament from ABD) 24 Guggenheim Museum of Art http://www.guggenheim.org 25 Metropolitan Museum of Art http://www.metmuseum.org/ 26 The Frick Museum http://www.frick.org/ 27 Central Park
  8. Once you are finished with the tour, head back to Times Square for your Broadway show and evening meal

Day 4
Departure Day

Oh geez how can I ever say thanks enough for this??? LOVE detailed plans. THIS IS WHAT I NEED someone to make exactly for me based on our exact stops. Disney has these services why doesn't NYC???? Fantastic and so helpful. I will go over it in depth with DH. I liked Manhatten Club b/c I felt the price was reasonable and you get TWO BATHROOMS!!!!! It is more of a suite than a hotel room. We need extra space.....

I am definitely getting a nice little list together of some must see attractions and I can see where there is plenty to do on our own. I am a HUGE fan of Good Morning America, why I don't know....and something about being in there and seeing the concert in the park I love....I know I know enough to pay all that????
 
The 9/11 museum has some time tickets you can buy in advance then the wait is minimal. One of the options includes a 60 minute tour. I didn't have tickets and went over a Labor Day weekend. The line moved fairly quickly and while it looked long we waited about 30 minute. I toured with my dd11 as well as dd15 and dh and we spent a few hours there before we had to leave to meet family.

For Statue of Liberty/Ellis Island buy tickets ahead of time and get to the ferry very early. I believe you can still buy tickets to Statue of Liberty Crown which procides priority boarding and/or timed entrance. I would do that early then go to Ellis Island.

Broadway Shows - no idea my dd15 would love any musical - we got discount tickets ahead of time at broadwaybox.com

Tenement Museum - went in April. It was really interesting. You pay by the room so we just did one two hour tour and saw a movie before the tour. My dd15 really enjoyed the apartment we saw. Its probably better to buy tickets ahead of time here too.

I feel like the info on the TEnement is so vague. I understand there are FLOORS. I THINK ABD covers all the floors - for some reason this is really appealing to me. Is this a buy in advance thing? Website was confusing. You buy one ticket then get 20 percent off some walking tour. Isn't the whole thing a walk thru museum? Floor by floor?
 
Can anyone tell me about visiting New York. I would like to do a mom amd daughter trip. We would love to go with a tour group.
As mentioned earlier.... choosing a hotel makes a huge difference for multi-day visit. For what you get in Vegas, is totally different in NYC. I stayed at the Pan American in Elmhurst, but they are no longer operating.

Are you only interested in NYC. When I was there, I did a regional tour that included in NYC. Once the tour was over, I spent a few extra days to check out the places the tour missed out. It's amazing one night in NYC was the same price as a week long tour in the region.
http://americaasia.com/tour.aspx?locale=en-US&tourid=20&tn=New East Coast 7 Days Tour
 
I went with one of my sons on a field trip to The Tenement Museum. Everyone (kids and adults) thought it was a great experience. I've been meaning to go back on my own. They had the kids filling out a census form and walking through various rooms while explaining what life was like for those living there.

While the subway will be crowded and hot,it will be the fastest & cheapest option to travel around the city. With traffic it can take 45 minutes just to go 20 blocks.
 
Thanks! Uber was fantastic for us in LA glad to hear NYC has it too! Yes, I am not a subway person or honestly a bus person hence the hop on and off bus tours aren't appealing to me...but I am sure UBer or the subway if needed can get me there. If the Escape Room is that crazy they lock you in a room and you have to get out before the Zombie gets you...um no thanks!!! We have that around here and the commercials are terrifying!!! :)


Scottmel, if you feel adventurous, also check out a tour of the famous "apollo" theater in Harlem. I'm a bit biased as I grew up in Harlem NY but if anyone in your party loves music this is an excellent tour. it's short (about 75 minutes tops) but informative and fun.
 
I feel like the info on the TEnement is so vague. I understand there are FLOORS. I THINK ABD covers all the floors - for some reason this is really appealing to me. Is this a buy in advance thing? Website was confusing. You buy one ticket then get 20 percent off some walking tour. Isn't the whole thing a walk thru museum? Floor by floor?

So with the tenement museum you but a ticket to a floor (or multiples) based on what "tour" you want to take. On the tours a historian takes a small group through the floors of that story to learn about how the tenements lived. You can buy several tickets that could add up to a whole day there or just 1 or 2 experience tickets.

To me the hop on hop off buses are not worth it. Yes they go to the major tourist areas but they don't run 100% of the time and also only run so many times an hour. The subway system runs trains roughly every 3-5 minutes during the rush hours then at least once every 30ish minutes on the major lines. The subway really isn't that hard. The red line is on the west side of the city with the 1 being the local, the green runs on the east side with 6 being the local. If you need more than that there are great apps to use to figure out the best route to where you want to go from where you are.

Uber is big here in NYC but city taxis are just as good and recently I've seen no difference in what an Uber cost and what a city taxi costs.
 
When we did the Tenement Museum we went with a group so had prepurchased tickets for the Sweatshop tour and discussion. Basically the first floor is where you check in and includes the ticket counter, gift shop and a movie area where you can watch a film about the building while waiting for your tour. The tour we did involved just going to one apartment then we went to a room with a large table for a discussion and left going out a different set of stairs. We had 3 girls 14, 15, and 16, 3 mothers and two adults in our group plus maybe 6-8 other adults (don't really remember). Since some of the story matched my family history dd14 and I found the history to be very interesting. The 16 year old in our group and her mother seemed to really enjoy seeing the fabrics used and some of the antiques etc. I think the 15 year old girl was a bit bored.

From what I understand you buy a ticket to a tour then see the apartment the tour focuses on. If you want to see more than one apartment you need to buy multiple tickets paying attention to times/lengths of tours. I didn't do a walking tour though I did walk around and while in that area visited Eldridge ST Synagogue and Museum plus Katz's deli. I think floors are mentioned because of the amount of stairs climbed. Some people may pick a tour based on the number of steps to climb. If you want to see more than one apartment I recommend calling to find out timing.

We stayed at Affinia Manhattan one time in a 1 bedroom suite. We had a room with 2 queen beds and full bathroom plus a kitchen with stove, fridge etc, living room and sofabed and second full bathroom. Check out experiencetheride.com DD and I loved it.
 
Fordham University has two campuses in NYC: Rose Hill in the Bronx and Lincoln Center in Manhattan. Rose Hill is a more ‘typical’ college campus and Lincoln Center is more of a ‘concrete’ campus. For undergrad you can take some classes at both, regardless of your ‘home’ campus. I cannot recommend Fordham enough!

And yes, summer in NYC does get smelly, but it's a NYC smell and is all part of the experience.

So, so true!
 
2 bathrooms for 2 people in a hotel room in NYC? What is this craziness you speak of?? ;) But I would definitely, absolutely stick with a Manhattan hotel. I would argue against the extra time wasted and expense of commuting to another borough or (god forbid) NJ, particularly as it doesn't seem like the cost differential would make that much difference to this particular visit for scottmel.

Honestly, I love summer in NYC. There are so many really awesome things to do, many of them free, and lots of people head to the Hamptons on the weekends so the city clears out. The only place I ever really notice a smell, honestly, is on the 4/5 subway platform at 59th & Lex.

Tenement Museum is not my fave, but I love the Frick, the Morgan Library, the Transit Museum and a lot of other cultural institutions that aren't always top of mind. If you think you would like the topics covered in the Tenement museum, you might also consider a lower east side walking tour. Big Onion has a new tour called The Lower East Side: The “Creative Destruction” of an Ethnic Neighborhood. There are other walking tour companies out there - I happen to like this company as most of their guides are local graduate students.

Regarding shows, if you want to see a show other than Wicked, for musicals, I personally would recommend Aladdin or over Les Mis, although I think Les Mis is a solid choice. American in Paris has some great dance OR you may want to consider a play to balance out the musical depending on what's playing this summer. If you want to save some money and have a different experience, I really love going to the Delacorte's Shakespeare in the Park, which should be running when you are here. You can hire someone to wait on line for tickets for you in Central Park off Craig's List, which I frequently do. Or you can see the roaming Shakespeare shows put on by New York Classical Theatre, which are awesome. I will also drop off this link for anyone reading this who is interested in ever doing a lottery for Broadway shows: Broadway for Broke People.

I am a die hard subway rider, but I do love me some Uber. I would recommend being prepared to use both depending on the weather/surge pricing. And do not bring your car!!!

9/11 memorial is lovely. I haven't visited the museum yet myself, but can get a timed ticket and not wait on line. Natural History Museum is excellent and the Space Show well worth it. For a slightly different take on the museum you might do the Museum Hack tour which is super fun.

I am not really into the GMA idea, personally. I am usually trying to avoid crowds of tourists in Times Square, but YMMV :) You might consider the NBC Studio Tour as an alternative or see if the Tonight Show is taping while you are in town. Personally, I think those are less painful TV related experiences :)
 
Oh and one more thing - I might suggest considering immersive theatre instead of a 2nd Broadway show. 2 good options are: Then She Fell (but you must be 21) and Sleep No More. Grand Paradise is opening soon - looks like you need to be 18 for that one. In this genre, I don't recommend Queen of the Night.

If I am going to recommend some over 21 options for summertime, I also love a happy hour at the Honorable William Wall.

RoofTop Films is also awesome in the summer. May be different age requirements depending on the film content from event to event.
 















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