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We are back from our visit to China! What a marvelous experience! We went via the Uniworld “Classic China” tour, and it was worth every penny. Briefly, we flew from San Francisco to Beijing; then we flew Easter China airlines to Xi’An; then to an airline to Shanghai.

What wonderful people! The food was great (although I am sick of “Chinese food”).

I am open to any questions. I shall try to submit a more detailed account soon on this thread (jet lag is severe!).
 
we are back from our visit to china! What a marvelous experience! We went via the uniworld “classic china” tour, and it was worth every penny. Briefly, we flew from san francisco to beijing; then we flew easter china airlines to xi’an; then to an airline to shanghai.

What wonderful people! The food was great (although i am sick of “chinese food”).

I am open to any questions. I shall try to submit a more detailed account soon on this thread (jet lag is severe!).

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Can you sponsor me? I can barely afford to travel to the grocery store. :laughing:

Just kidding on the sponsorship, of course. I'd love to visit China, though.
 

We travelled there in the summer of 2007 for a 15 day tour and tacked on
4th of July at Hong Kong Disney. It was great and I even missed the food. We used a great tour company called China Focus out of SF. Very reasonable prices. :thumbsup2
 
I was recently pricing China trips and was very surprised at how affordable they are.
 
I will be in Hong Kong soon, but that's not really China like mainland.

I do want to see the rest of the country someday.
 
I've been to China several times. The last time was the best, as we stayed for several weeks at universities, and had grad students for local tour guides, rather than China Travel Service personnel. We saw all sorts of things that I'm sure the tour guides never would have shown us.

We stayed for a week in HK, which I was prepared to hate, as I'm not a city person. I loved it. The public transportation is unbelievable--save, reliable, frequent, and immaculately clean.

It is very different than the mainland, but I liked every place we visited. Nanjing was my favorite city--so much history, and unlike many Chinese cities, there is an effort to preserve the past, rather than just build, build, build.

The food was incredible. I tease my Chinese colleagues that they are much worse food snobs than the French ever considered being. They contend that I'm just jealous.
 
We are back from our visit to China! What a marvelous experience! We went via the Uniworld “Classic China” tour, and it was worth every penny. Briefly, we flew from San Francisco to Beijing; then we flew Easter China airlines to Xi’An; then to an airline to Shanghai.

What wonderful people! The food was great (although I am sick of “Chinese food”).

I am open to any questions. I shall try to submit a more detailed account soon on this thread (jet lag is severe!).

We loved,loved China. I was in awe when I stood on the Great Wall. I had seen it so many times in books and TV, but to actually see it was amazing. The food is really good. We had nothing fried. The pork and chicken had no breading or coating at all on it. The people were so warm. I remember the in-country air flights were not as smooth as here. We heard that most pilots over in China are/were military and flew as such. We loved it and highly recommend travel there if funds ever allow.
 
I'd love to hear more about what you saw and also what real Chinese food is like. I think that I'd enjoy visiting China.
 
I'd love to visit China! It's so pretty over there! I've always wanted to see the Great Wall. Do you have pictures? :)
 
This begins my description of our trip to China, beginning with Beijing and the Great Wall.

The Great Wall was fantastic to visit. As you drive out of Beijing towards the Great Wall you enter mountainous country; about 10 miles away we started to see sections of the Wall high up on the mountain tops.

The only really ‘downer’ about the Great Wall: they have set up loudspeakers all along this section of the Wall we visited (called Badaling) and played music incessantly, interspersed with talking. So you never really go to sit and listen to the wind, birds, etc. They also have a huge sign (leftover from the Olympics) saying ‘one world one peace’, which manages to be in most of your photographs.

The air pollution in Beijing was awful, and there was quite a bit at the Great Wall site we visited. In Beijing we visited the Olympic site (the Birdnest) and the air pollution was so bad that you thought you were in a ‘pea soup’ London fog.

While in Beijing we visited the Forbidden City and Tiananmen Square. It was so cold that our first purchases upon entering the Square was hats and gloves. Our guide, Michael, had been a witness to the student uprising at the square in 1989 and it was interesting to hear his description of some of the events (he was no longer a student at that time, but he would bike out to the square to see the protests; he was close by the square when the army opened fire; he could hear scattered gunshots, at which time he rode furiously away; two people he knew were wounded by gunshots).

We only spent three hours in the Forbidden City; a full day would have been wonderful, so you could just wander around. I was surprised at the number of Chinese tourists; Westerners were definitely a minority.

Also in Beijing we went to a Hutong (one of the old neighborhoods; there used to be 13,000 such neighborhoods, now only 400). We rode around the ancient lanes in a rickshaw, and then entered a family home for a home-cooked meal. Our Host looked like Jackie Chan, if Jackie had spent a great part of his life drinking sake. He was a very genial man, ready to share sake at a moments notice. His wife’s family had owned the home for 100 years; when he married into the family he quit his job at the factory and they opened the house to these lunches. I quite envied his life of leisure, since his wife did all the cooking while he played genial host. The Hutong was marvelous to walk about; small grocery stores everywhere, small parks where old men sat and played Mong Jong, and street vendors chasing you down the street to sell you chopsticks.

I was quite surprised that the Chinese food we were served (both at the Hutong and at restaurants) was exactly like we get at home. I thought it would be more spicy, or just ‘different’ in some way. The Chinese tend to eat ‘family style’. Our group would sit at a large round table (there were ten of us), which had a large ‘lazy Susan’. The waitress would periodically bring out a large basis of food, which we would then pass around. We usually had about 10 different types of food, virtually always including chicken and broccoli, sweet and sour pork, moo goo gai pan, etc. Interestingly, a big bowl of French Fries was often served. Our most interesting food was jellyfish (quite tasty) and chicken feet (not much meat on a chicken foot at all). The table would have both chopsticks and knives and forks. I always used the utensils, while my wife always used the chopsticks (she had been practicing at home for months).

Watching the Chinese eat with chopsticks was interesting: a person would either lift their plate of food up to their mouth and then start shoveling food into their mouth with the chopsticks, or else lower their head to the plate on the table and start shoveling. Of course, some foods, such as rice or noodles, simply does not lend itself to elegantly picking up a strand with chopsticks and lifting to the mouth.

We stayed at the Sheraton Great Wall; it was not close to the Great Wall, but was in Beijing. I believe it was the first Western hotel to open in Beijing, in 1984.

Interestingly, at the hotel I met a Swiss businessman. He told me he had last visited Beijing in 1988 and that at the time there were no taxis and few cars. He rode rickshaws around town. Now, twenty years later, he was astonished at the huge number of taxis and cars, and the utter lack of rickshaws.

Indeed, I was not prepared for the number of cars on the road, while the taxies were all new-looking (mostly Volkswagens). Our guide pointed out that the people had started owning cars and driving just ten years earlier, with thousands more joining the road everyday, which is why the cars all looked so modern. Indeed, when we hit Shanghai I was impressed by the traffic jams. When I got back home to Fort Worth I noticed that, even during our rush hour, traffic seemed absurdly light.

Chinese drivers are something. Each day on the road was a rather harrowing experience. However, I never noticed any ‘road rage’. Cutting off other drivers seemed to be an acceptable practice. It was like a huge, intricate dance that outsiders could not understand. One of our drivers thought little of traffic lanes, and would weave from one side of the four-lane highway to the other without fanfare or signals. He would give a ‘honk’ of the horn if he were going to perform some particularly outrageous driving stunt, to give fair warning to others.

Michael pointed out that many of the drivers we saw had, more than likely, never driven a day in their life until that very day. He said that it was not unusual for a person to have spent their life riding bicycles or motorbikes, then have saved up enough to buy a car; purchase said car, and be on the road the next day. Michael said that at first such people, who had been used to ‘shooting the gap’ on their bike or moped, would believe that their car can go through the same small openings.

Speaking of mopeds: our guide said that they cost around $300.00. I am not talking about cheap-looking mopeds, but Vespas. Of course, the bicycles with small engines on them were also quite common.

Our last night in Beijing we had the Peking Duck dinner. The chef brought the cooked duck out to our table, cut it up into ridiculously small pieces, and then placed it on the lazy Susan for us to enjoy. You would take a small piece of duck, roll it up in a small ‘pancake’ (like for Moo Shi Pork) add some sauce, and enjoy. They also served French Fries.

I do have photographs on a Kodak gallery. I shall provide the link soon.

My next installment will be about Xi’an and the Terra Cotta Soldiers. Hopefully it will not be as 'rambling' as this piece, but we shall see.
 
Badaling is the most touristy part of the Great Wall. The souvenir hawkers can be aggressive. Other places are much quieter.

The food you get in the tourist hotels is, well, geared to tourists. So, much of it will seem like what you'd get at home. If you go a little off the beaten path, you'll eat quite differently. We went to a few open air seafood restaurants in Hong Kong and in villages outside Shanghai that were great fun. The Chinese are fanatic about food being fresh. So, you pick your own meals swimming in huge tanks, and they cook it up for you. Much of the seafood was species I'd never seen before.

If you like adventure, try the mom and pop places. :rotfl: One of the women in our group had spent a year studying in China, and she loved to try new food, the weirder the better. She speaks fluent Putonghua, and so she was easily able to order us some special delicacies. :scared1: Some of it was very good and some must be an acquired taste.

Every good sized city seems to have night market or two. These places are great fun for shopping. You can get some incredible bargains, and its the best place to get souvenirs, provided that you aren't counting on getting the genuine article for high priced items. But for t-shirts, ties and other trinkets, the night markets are great.
 
I'm so glad you had a wonderful trip there. We've been twice to adopt, so our experience was a little different. I think we stayed at the Sheraton in Beijing, but I'm not sure. Are the rooms there really contemporary? I didn't like the taste in furniture there, but it was a place to stay.

I love the restaurants there with family style tables and the waitresses that stand close by the tables.

I've been to both location of the wall from Beijing. Is Badling the location that is extremely steep climb and only one way to go? I know there's another location where there's a choice between a steep and an easy climb and I think that one is further out.

I can't wait to hear your experience with the Terra Cota Soldiers. We never made it there either time, but on hopefully will when we do a heritage tour with our daughters.

A place that is wonderful to go to is Guangzhou. Looks European there and it's close to Hong Kong. Just a train or airplane ride away. There is also GuangXi province and the city of Nanning is very warm and beautiful. Very green with those limestone mountains and close to Vietnam.

I hear you about the airplane rides. Everyone thought I was crazy when I mentioned it. I'm very sensitive to motion, so I can feel any change very quickly. They descend very quickly and my head hurt so bad, I had to hold it and I was whimpering.

Just try to stay up as long as you can to balance out that jet lag. When I got to China, they had us touring the next day at 8am, so we didn't have time for jet lag, but when we came back, I had to force myself to stay up until it was dark. It's harder when you have a baby who it use to China time and slept the whole time on the plane back.

Thanks for sharing your memories. It bring back my own just reading yours.
 
kinntj, is your daughter from Guangxi AR? Our younger daughter is--the older is from Jiangxi. Did you get to go to Guilin? The images of those karst mountains look so lovely. That's on our agenda for the dream trip when we bring the kids back to visit.
 
kinntj, is your daughter from Guangxi AR? Our younger daughter is--the older is from Jiangxi. Did you get to go to Guilin? The images of those karst mountains look so lovely. That's on our agenda for the dream trip when we bring the kids back to visit.

Yes, our youngest is also from Guangxi (What is AR?) and our oldest is from Jiangxi. No, we didn't make it to Guilin, but DH did most of the touring when we were there. I was sick as a dog and it was extremely hot, so I didn't make it out of the hotel. I just remember that Province was really beautiful and lush green.
 
It's been a bit over a year since my 3 week visit to China for the Special Olympics World Summer Games. It truly was the experience of a lifetime! The people of Shanghai were so unbelievable. These people seem to thive on hopitality! We spent a good portion of our stay in Gao Dong Town, and then moved about 2 hours south of Shanghai for our sporting events.

I will disagree about the food though. It was horrendous. I am a supremely picky eater and MANY MANY of our athletes have texture or sensory issues. The Chinese organizers did not take any of that into account and we had many hungry or upset athletes (and more than a few sick ones including myself). We also had plenty of "foodie" types with us who were less than thrilled with the food.

I don't believe my experience in regards to the food to be typical. I think it's because we were staying in hotels and everything was being regulated by the CHinese gov't. Perhpas it was their version of institutional food? I heard from family members who satyed at hotels and venues outside of the "Olympic Village" and they had a much better experience.
 
Yes, our youngest is also from Guangxi (What is AR?) and our oldest is from Jiangxi. No, we didn't make it to Guilin, but DH did most of the touring when we were there. I was sick as a dog and it was extremely hot, so I didn't make it out of the hotel. I just remember that Province was really beautiful and lush green.

AR=Autonomous Region. A handfull of areas with high minority populations are deemed Autonomous Regions, although in reality it doesn't amount to anything much different from being a province.

Nanchang wasn't my favorite city. We were there for 10 days in 98 and there wasn't much to do. The airport was a hoot--basically a concrete military stop with a neon sign slapped on the front. I'm sure it's been upgraded since. In fact, when we got our first referral, and I told a Chinese colleague were were going to Nanchang, she apologized! Nanning was a different story. It was very beautiful.
 





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