hardcorestitch
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Anyone unable to get service?
Yeah I was able to get home from work but when I tried to get into on my rideshare the service just deteriorated within 1-2 seconds before handing over to the limited T-Satellite… thankfully I got back home safe.I tried to call DW at lunch a couple of times. I kept getting a recording that the user trying to be called was unavailable. Wasn't sure what was going on. Could you imagine if our cell service went down for a long time? We'd be back in 1999 again.
During our neighborhood National Night Out gathering two years ago we had a representative from the Fire Department recommend that anyone with young children or elderly residents consider keeping a land line. Not so much out of concern about the cellular networks being down, but because a landline gives an exact street address when 9-1-1 is called. This can be an issue if someone can call 9-1-1 but can't speak. Cellular, if working gives a vicinity and in densely populated areas like apartments, and condos, that can include dozens of units that have to be checked.I tried to call DW at lunch a couple of times. I kept getting a recording that the user trying to be called was unavailable. Wasn't sure what was going on. Could you imagine if our cell service went down for a long time? We'd be back in 1999 again.
AT&T stopped taking orders for POTS in most places October 15th 2025.During our neighborhood National Night Out gathering two years ago we had a representative from the Fire Department recommend that anyone with young children or elderly residents consider keeping a land line. Not so much out of concern about the cellular networks being down, but because a landline gives an exact street address when 9-1-1 is called. This can be an issue if someone can call 9-1-1 but can't speak. Cellular, if working gives a vicinity and in densely populated areas like apartments, and condos, that can include dozens of units that have to be checked.
And this was an issue in Santa Rosa in 2017 in the days after the Tubbs Fire. Cellular towers burned, and it took days to bring in temporary cell towers. Landlines in the city were buried, and never stopped functioning.
Fortunately with both those options ATT programs them to display your service address so that won't be an issue as they are fixed location phones. Same with properly set up VoIP systems. The issue is with normal cellular phones, which is what is being discussed.AT&T stopped taking orders for POTS in most places October 15th 2025.
They hope to turn off their POTS plant nationwide by the end of 2029.
California is pushing back but POTS is on life support for sure.
You can order AP-A service, the POTS replacement served via AT&T's cellular network and/or internet.
Yeah it was briefly up and then just failed again earlier this afternoon…I didn't really notice, but I've been on wi-fi. Just looking I supposedly have 2 bars, which is lower than usual. I hope they get it sorted.
My point was that POTS replacement services are often backed by cellular. If the cellular network is down, so is your "land line".The issue is with normal cellular phones, which is what is being discussed.
I am not holding my breath for NextGen911. It has been an absolute CLUSTER here for reasons I do not understand. They are aiming for a 2030 rollout.My point was that POTS replacement services are often backed by cellular. If the cellular network is down, so is your "land line".
In your fire examples, there is no advantage to maintaining a landline that is backed by cellular or broadband if the cellular and broadband are down due to the fire.
And with AML(android) / HELO(iOS) the 911 center will receive a location often to 5-20 meters accuracy and may include floor level.
NextGen 911 is much more advanced than many realize.
It is estimated that 85% of the US population is covered by NG911, with 95% penetration projected by the end of 2026.