Vent re: Dumbo and adult only riders

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ok...very interesting thread....but i COMPLETELY DISAGREE with the OP.....

I am going to be 19 when i go in august adn i am going with one of my best friends whos 19.....i have been to WDW many times (look at my sig.) but i have NEVER been on Dumbo adn my friend has never been to WDW but she loves Dumbo and she wants to ride.....now we are going to try and ride it at EMH so that the lines not long but if my friend want sto ride it you are darn sure we are going to ride b/c she has never been before and will probably not be back for a while

Also...CHaracter Meals....that is one of the funniest things i have EVER heard on these boards....My family adn I go to character meals every visit and i LOVE them.....and this august my friend and I are going to Chef Mickeys, Crystal Palace, Liberty Tree Tavern adn 1900 park fare (she loves the princesses)

I ride almost EVERY fantasyland ride everytime i go....and i will definitely not stop riding them

sooo.......

i completely disagree....but this post was great entertainment:rotfl2:
 
It is one thing to choose not to go on a ride because you feel it is more for kids. It is another thing entirely to come on here and tell people that they are rude and selfish if they choose to ride it. That is what the OP has stated more than once.

Until Disney tells me otherwise I will continue to ride Dumbo, with or without my DD. But since Disney believes that their theme park is for EVERYONE I don't see them putting an age limit on Dumbo anytime soon.

Thank goodness the OP does not run Disney or it would be a sad depressing place to go.

Exactly
 
how did you score a front of the line pass for dumbo??? lol...and why didnt you just selflessly give it to a child at the back of the line...after all, they are the reasons "front of the line" passes exist....how selfish!!

They got a front of line pass for it, for 4 people, at Crystal Palace because their server was nice. Sounds like instead of all 4 people going, they let their child and one of their own parents go on, thereby opening up one elephant.



I guess I only really am into Disney because of my child. Once she becomes a teen it will probably be Universal all the way.

I'm sorry you don't enjoy it for yourself.

I kind of had your opinions when I was in my 20s, single, and somewhat depressed for much of the time. Then I hit 30 and my mom died and I decided to have more fun in my life when I could.

Just so happened my brother moved to southern CA shortly after I married and got pregnant, so we had a "home base" to visit Disneyland...we went as adults after we had a child, but it wasn't because of the child that we went.

I've learned to enjoy it for what it is, and my own personal life is much more full of joy compared to how it used to be!



WDW is great for adults, but without the children wanting to go back year after year, it couldn't exist. It really is first and foremost for children.

Disneyland would have seen us only in September of '07, if that were true, with the upcoming trip this month. Because those are the trips DS has wanted. Hubby and I wanted to go in December, and then I went on a quick solo trip in January, because I wanted to have my own fun (while DS and DH had loads of fun camping out in the living room while I was gone).

And there are *plenty* of people on here who prove that they don't feel it's first and foremost for children.

We were there at rope drop, believe me. It still took 4 cycles to get on the ride and I saw plenty of single riders. Big ones.

Big ones? Nice.

And since you were seeing so many single adult riders, that SHOWS you that you have a minority opinion...going on a ride isn't a matter of courtesy, it's what many people go to parks for.


My joy comes with seeing my daughter react to the characters and rides.

Although watching DS have fun is terrific, I hope that someday you can find joy in it for yourself, apart from your daughter. It's a different sort of fun, but definitely worth experiencing!


I'm talking about the 25 year old poster who wanted to have HER hair and makeup done, with no kids in her party. She was asking if that was frowned upon, or allowed, or what.

It's not frowned on, it's allowed, I've seen plenty of pictures of adult women with the BBB hairdos and sparkles.

Just like Dumbo, it isn't MY style, but if they want to pay the price (or stand in line for Dumbo), go for it! :goodvibes



Yes, i'm one of those rare people who think of OTHER people's children, not just mine.


And waiting in 100 degree heat for a ride is not a life lesson.

I don't think you're rare at all. Why do you think you are rare for caring about other children? What sort of people live nearby you?

But I can tell you, you don't have to worry about being in front of my kiddo while he and DH (or me) wait for Dumbo when we get to WDW. DS understands that there are lines, that everyone is having just as much fun as he is, or will be, and that it's courtesy to wait in lines as patiently as possible! DS would never begrudge someone else having fun, though he might be impatient about it while waiting for his turn!

And waiting in 100 degrees IS a life lesson, it's one for the parents to perhaps pick a better, cooler time to visit.



Yep. You either "get" Disney or you don't. The magic of Disney is real, and Walt lives on through it. Those who "get" it are lucky. I guess some just aren't born with the Disney gene. :confused3

Well I for one was someone who loved it, then "grew up" and got all anti-corporation for about 10 years, but now I've come to terms with it and have loads of fun. I'm not perhaps as much into the "pixie dust" aspect of it all, but I still have loads of fun.


...when I looked at all of those eager children waiting and we were, like, "Are we going to take up a Dumbo while these kids are waiting? No way!"


Buuuuut there were also many eager ADULTS waiting, which means that they were eager to have fun on the ride. Why discriminate against a group of people like that?

What irks me most about this thread is that people aren't bothering to read or comprehend the post. I am not looking out for my own daughter -- I am looking out for ALL kids. We got on the ride, front of line. No problem. I am not one of those "me and mine" people. I think we should step aside and let the kids ride Dumbo. Not MY kids -- any kids. The kids there now, tomorrow, etc.

People are reading, people are comprehending. People aren't agreeing.
 
OP~ I think you are very rude! Everyone has the right to ride Dumbo or any ride for that matter. Kids need to learn to wait in lines just like everyone else, otherwise when are they ever going to learn? Everyone is a kid at Disney. I think Walt Disney would roll over in his grave to hear this! As Walt Disney built the parks for everyone to enjoy! I guess some people just don't get Disney.
 

Also, keep in mind that at Universal there is a really fun looking ride based on Jurassic Park in which you had to have one child and one adult, and they wouldn't let any adults on without children and vice versa.


I have to know what ride this is. Can someone explain that to me? I looked up Universal Orlando, found a Jurassic ride, and all it says is that the height requirement is 42" inches or higher.

What's up with the seating for this ride??????
 
I have to know what ride this is. Can someone explain that to me? I looked up Universal Orlando, found a Jurassic ride, and all it says is that the height requirement is 42" inches or higher.

What's up with the seating for this ride??????

It's the Pteranodon Flyers, which is a kids ride, but on Universal's website it says the anyone over 56" must be accompanied by a child meeting the height requirement which is 36" to 56". It does not say anything about you having to one child and one adult.
 
I think the bottom line is, Disney is for everybody regardless of age. As other posters have said, Walt created Disney for everybody. If you're of the opinion that adults shouldn't ride attractions that are aimed towards children unless they have a child with them, you are welcome to that opinion but it doesn't make it so. Nor does it make any childless adult selfish to want to enjoy an attraction that's aimed for (though not neccessarily "meant for") another age group.

Whatever Universal decides to do is up to them.
 
It's not the Jurassic Park boat ride, it the Pteradactyl Flyers. You have to have someone under 42 inches tall to ride it if you want to ride. I rode it with my DD when she was 6. My DH wouldn't ride because he couldn't fit, he was way to tall and he is only 5'9". It is a a kiddie swing seat, it was fun though.:rolleyes1
 
Um, I'm sure it has a certain amount of "weeee ! " factor to it, but since I see it as a children's ride and so many children are eager to ride it, I don't give it another thought. My dh and I were going to get on it since we had a front of line pass, but I did a sanity check when I looked at all of those eager children waiting and we were, like, "Are we going to take up a Dumbo while these kids are waiting? No way!"

If my daughter would have wanted me to ride it with her I would have, but she wanted my mom to go on it with her. I was fine with it.

Selfish:
1. devoted to or caring only for oneself; concerned primarily with one's own interests, benefits, welfare, etc., regardless of others.
2. characterized by or manifesting concern or care only for oneself: selfish motives.

I do not benefit by skipping Dumbo. My daughter was in the front of the line already, so she didn't benefit either. So my skipping Dumbo is not a selfish act. It was selfLESS.

selfless
"devoted to others' welfare or interest and not one's own,"

I am pretty sure that if you have to tell everyone how incredible selfless that you are that it does negate the selflessness. As for my family, my young children and I will be the ones standing patiently behind any adult who wants to ride Dumbo waiting our turn. My children will be learning that the world does not revolve around them and that everyone gets a chance to ride......in the order that they arrived in line. To tell you the truth, if an adult in front of us offered to let us pass, I would selflessly decline because my time is not more valuable than their time.
 
Anyone who waits in line deserves to ride regardless of age. Waiting your turn is a concept most kids learn before they can walk.

Those adults aren't denying those children a ride, just making them wait their turn. As far as the heat and humidity, as soon as the child rides Dumbo, he or she is going to go stand in another line. Adults not riding Dumbo will not affect kids having to stand in line.

It sounds more like you're disgruntled about having to stand in a long line and blaming a bunch of "silly adults riding kiddie rides".
 
It's not the Jurassic Park boat ride, it the Pteradactyl Flyers. You have to have someone under 42 inches tall to ride it if you want to ride. I rode it with my DD when she was 6. My DH wouldn't ride because he couldn't fit, he was way to tall and he is only 5'9". It is a a kiddie swing seat, it was fun though.:rolleyes1

It's the Pteranodon Flyers, which is a kids ride, but on Universal's website it says the anyone over 56" must be accompanied by a child meeting the height requirement which is 36" to 56". It does not say anything about you having to one child and one adult.

Thanks for the explanation! :)
 
I have never even once thought of why someone was in front of me for any ride. I'm much to involved with having fun with my family than whining about having to wait a few minutes more. I also never wait in lines more than 15 minutes, never go when it's really hot nor when it's very croweded. I guess it is worth it to spend more time planning and less time whining about what others are doing.
 
Also....i give my seat to elderly, i let parents with small children have a seat on the bus and i stand....i talk to the little kids in lines and try and help keep them occupied while waiting in long lines.....i let kids sit in fornt of me at parades even if ive been sitting there for an hour....ive let kids go in front of me for food if i can tell that they are really hungry adn i dont need it right away.....not going on dumbo has absolutely NOTHING to do with how selfless i am and whetehr or not i think about the kids and them having fun....
what it sounds like is that you can be extremely selfLESS all the time but if you go on dumbo without kids that measn you're selfish...hmmm:confused3
 
I think anyone should get to ride Dumbo if they want to.

I rode the Tomorrowland Speedway by myself in 2005--my friends had taken each of their kids in a separate car, but the kids wanted me to ride too, so I got in my own car and raced along with them. It was fun.

When I was at WDW with one of my friends in college, we rode the teacups. While waiting on line we met a little girl who was going on alone because her parents didn't like the ride, so we invited her (with the parents OK) to ride with us so she wouldn't have to ride by herself. It was great.

Last time I was there with my family we did the character breakfast at the Cape May Cafe, and Goofy and Chip pretended to "fight" over me and my sister. It ended with the waitress yelling "Stop it Goofy! You already have a girlfriend!" My family was hysterically laughing at this point and it was one of the highlights of our trip.

It's just fun. Of course we're considerate of the kids in the park. But we're allowed to enjoy it too.
 
It looks like the OP left for the evening. But just in case they come back I still have a few posts I'd really like the OP to address. These are posts I've made throughout this entire conversation. None of which were ever addressed or responded to by the OP.

Mainly since the OP felt the need to state people aren't reading or comprehending what they are saying, I would just hope to get some clarification on statements that were made by the OP regarding this entire situation.

Disney is a truly happy place. We should never look for reasons to make it anything but that.

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WDW is great for adults, but without the children wanting to go back year after year, it couldn't exist. It really is first and foremost for children.

I'd also like to point out your opinion is incorrect as it applies to my wife and myself.

I grew up living Disney. I came back with my wife and my wife alone. We visited Disney Land Paris BEFORE we ever had children. We visit now because we love everything about it. Our kids love it just as much, but we visit again and again for what we enjoy as a family. Not because it's just for kids.


I have a great time taking my child, and now that I have another one on the way, I'll be taking her as well. In one sense you are right - I only go to take my children and I have a great time doing it. If my husband and I got a weekend away, we would not be going to WDW without them. We'd be more likely to go to Universal if we wanted to hit a theme park for the weekend alone. My joy comes with seeing my daughter react to the characters and rides.

And as you have pointed out this is what works for YOU and reflects how YOU feel. Unfortunately in this case Disney World is EVERYONES happy place :).

It is special for children because the cars are in the form of Dumbo. In reality, it is the same type of midway ride that you see in any other carnival. Actually, there is a more adult version at MK. It's called Astro Orbiter. Most small kids would be afraid to ride that one.

Yes I am quite aware of the other version in Tommorowland. Which I'd like to point out both of my older children have loved since they were ready to ride it :). I would hardly consider it an "adult version" since there is no height requirement on that ride ;). My youngest will be riding with me this Oct.

At Crystal Palace our waiter was very nice and gave us a front of the line pass for 4 people to ride Dumbo. My dd said she wanted to ride it with my mom. My husband and I hung back because the line was so atrociously long there was no way we were going to occupy a Dumbo ourselves. We took pictures instead. We rode every other ride that day, but IMO Dumbo is just so popular with the little ones and such a long wait, I'd rather see kids get a chance to ride it.

I will say that I commend you for "giving" up your seat so other children can ride sooner then they would had you decided to ride yourself. I would just hope that people don't in turn decide to judge others for decided themselves to ride. As I've said 20 times, Disney World is EVERYONES happy place. :wizard:

Oh, maybe that's why there was an opening -- because there were no characters. We were just, like, "Why do we want to eat at a fake castle?"

Oh.... so now that there are (as you say) "FAKE" princesses inside the "FAKE" Castle it's ok now compared to when it was just the "FAKE" Castle?

With every post you make it becomes more and more clear that you just don't get Disney for what it really is.

This isn't about my child, per se. We get to the park at opening and have very little wait. It's about common courtesy and thinking of others. Yes, i'm one of those rare people who think of OTHER people's children, not just mine.

You could say the same about holding a door open for someone or giving up your seat on a bus for elderly, small child, etc.

So many people say that Disney makes them feel like a kid again. Well, let's not revert back so far that we forget common courtesy and empathy. And waiting in 100 degree heat for a ride is not a life lesson.

The suggestion that we reserve Dumbo for the small ones is just that -- a suggestion. If no one wants to go along with it because they must - ride - dumbo, of course that is their prerogative. No need for anyone to get defensive. I see so much defensiveness on these replies.

This is the second time I've seen you try and compare someone not going on a ride at WDW to "holding a door open for someone or giving up your seat on a bus for elderly, small child etc." So in the reverse does that mean that someone who chooses to ride Dumbo without a kid is as rude as someone who isn't willing to do any of those things?

I always hold a door open for someone or give up my seat on a bus for elderly people or parents with kids or kids who need to sleep on the way back to the hotel. I even have my children learning to think of others when it comes to these situations. But you can bet I'm going to enjoy riding each and ever single ride I want too at Disney :) every single time. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

I think thats where a lot of the reactions are coming from to your posts. Just because someone wants to ride Dumbo without a child doesn't mean they are rude people. I believe the defensiveness that is being felt in the replies also comes from this idea. People who are going to WDW shouldn't need to explain or have a valid reason for anyone to ride rides. It doesn't matter if it's Dumbo or TOT. If someone has paid admission to enjoy a vacation in a place as magical as WDW they shouldn't need to worry about such things. Kids or no kids, Disney is for EVERYONE.

Halloween parties could be considered geared for children. They sell out in some cases. Does that mean we shouldn't buy tickets if we don't have kids just so there are more tickets for those families that have kids just in case they will sell out?

Examples like this can go on and on all day long. Bottom line is that if Walt wanted Dumbo to be for children only, then I would expect to see a sign on the ride explaining that only children and those with children were allowed to ride.

Fantasyland is just that, another wonderful land in the MAGIC KINGDOM.....I don't recall it ever being called KIDS land.

But thank you for the suggestion.

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If I don't see any responses to what I've typed above I'll take that to mean the OP has no real answer for what I'm asking.

I hope everyone hasn't let this thread affect the magic they feel or enjoy at the Magic Kingdom.

My family can never get enough :)
 
My DH, age 55 and probably 8 at heart ALWAYS, loves Dumbo. Our children, ages 22 and 20, do not travel to Disney with us lately as we go in September and they are in college. However, that does not stop us from riding Dumbo. We make sure that we ride it at least once EVERY trip. This brings the biggest smile to my DH's face and I wouldn't take that away from him for the world. As a matter of fact, he has ridden with other people's kids who had one too many kids to all ride together and has had a blast doing so.
 
I love Dumbo!! :thumbsup2 It was the first ride I remember riding on my first-ever trip to DL and I really don't care if anyone else thinks I am too old to ride it today.
 
I have never ridden Dumbo. I only went to Disney once when I was 16. I plan on riding it with my kids and husband when we go in Friday!
 
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