vent about WDW bus passengers

[Bastiansmom]

1. I will not judge anyone for not giving up their seat for me even if I am pregnant, elderly, holding someone or something, or can't reach something to hold on to. I do not know their situation and they may need the seat more than me.

2. I will give my seat up to someone who appears to need it more than me, if I am able.

3. I know that standing on the bus is uncomfortable and so if I am lucky enough to have a seat, I will make sure my family and belongs take up the least amount of space possible (kids on laps, etc). I want as many seats as possible to be available.

4. If I feel that I or anyone in my party will be harmed by standing, I will wait for the next bus or hail a cab.


Feel free to add....

 

[bjacky]

It's better than walking though right?

 

[fluffycow333]

Last time I was there I saw a women whose precious Coach bag obviously needed the seat more than anyone who was standing. She got lots of glares from people but never moved the bag. When I passed her getting of the bus I sort of mentioned to her that her bag must have been very tired and looked like it really needed the seat.

 

[Momvic5]

I have mixed feelings on this issue. I am all for being kind and offering seats to those who need it, but I can not help but feel irritated when people begin thinking that they are entitled to a seat on a standing room only bus/monorail. Is it rude to enter a obviously crowded bus/monorail and expect people to shuffle around to accomodate you or your family's needs? I am not sure which is more rude - the sense of entitlement or the lack of kindness.

 

[luvsmickeymouse]

I'll turn this thread to where it is eventually going to go.

Having a child is not a disability. Leave the park earlier (before the big crowds); wait for the next bus (so you are the first ones on); drive your own car; or deal with standing.

Is it nice of others to stand for you? Sure (and I probably would). Should you expect it? Nope.

This is how I feel. I always wait for the next bus.

 

[celeste.]

I don't agree with it, but just to play devils advocate here, I've had a very long day walking around the parks all day just like you. I have three children. One in a stroller. I'm tired, too. I waited in that very long line to get on the bus and finally be able to sit down and rest as well. Why should I have to give up my seat just so a kid can sit down? They've been in a stroller all day, they are very capable of sitting in the lap of someone else. If they are able to walk around the park all day, they can stand on the bus. If the bus is too crowded and you'll all have to stand, including the children, wait for the next bus so you get a seat.

my thoughts exactly while reading this thread.
after a long day at the park everyone is tired. I'm 16 and I would gladly give up my seat for an elderly, disabled, etc. person. But a child, no. I remember having to stand as a child, these children can stand also, especially if they've been in a stroller all day. I could be just as tired as that three year old standing on the bus.

 

[brockash]

How do you know they don't have medical problems? My dh looks like a fit, healthy 30'ish year old but has the knees of a 70 year old, he should be getting knee replacements, but he is too young. The worst for him is standing in one place. So after standing in line wating for the bus, for him to give up his seat on the bus, is very painful for him.

He does though, most of the time. Most of the people he gives up his seat for act like it is expected of him and don't thank him or acknowldge that he gave up his seat at all.

I guess if everyone were a little more understanding and less judgemental, things might be a little nicer for everyone.

Emily

Like I said in earlier posts, I completely understand if the adult has a medical condition ect., and no, many times I wouldn't know just by looking at them, however when there are 20+ adults on a bus, I highly doubt every single one of them has some hidden medical condition The fact is many ppl. are just inconsiderate and only care about themselves. Just to be clear, this obviously wouldn't be your dh, as you've said he has a medical condition, but like I said those cases with sitting adults I gaurantee are not the norm.

 

[NEVERENOUGHWDW]

I'll turn this thread to where it is eventually going to go.

Having a child is not a disability. Leave the park earlier (before the big crowds); wait for the next bus (so you are the first ones on); drive your own car; or deal with standing.

Is it nice of others to stand for you? Sure (and I probably would). Should you expect it? Nope.

Although we do offer our seats to others (seniors, pregnant woman) you should never expect it. Your going to be more than disappointed most of the time.

 

[daisyduck123]

If the bus is too crowded for you then just wait for another bus..that's what I would do.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

I wanted to add something to the whole "wait for another bus" argument. One trip we waited for 7 (yes 7) buses. It was a crowded time of year. It was not park closing etc. but it was nighttime. We knew we wanted to sit so we did wait our turn etc. When we got to the front people pushed past us. Some people were nice enough to wait for us to try and board but most just pushed on past. We had 3 little ones at the time and 2 strollers. We were prepared etc. to get on but had to juggle a bit. So we did wait and we still almost didn't get a seat. Many people are simply rude. There are no two ways about it. We were polite but I can't lie we were pissed. Some people even almost knocked one of our children down. It was ridiculous. We were not slow moving or blocking the way. I was simply trying to carry 2 small children and hold onto a 3rd while my DH carried the strollers. We were moving just like everyone else and we were the first ones in line! That night we decided that we would never ever stay at a bus only resort.

As for the teens/young adults who say that they are tired all day and too bad for the child who needs to sit because they were in a stroller all day, well, if you were MY child- I would rip your butt out of that seat so fast your head would spin (but hey, that's just me). I get being tired etc. but a small child simply cannot balance and hold onto the rails the same way a young adult could. It is dangerous. It is not an issue of the child needing to sit and rest. Of course you are entitled to behave in any manner you chose but I will still have my opinion of it.
I don't expect anyone to do anything for me and my family but it does astound me sometimes that others simply don't see courtesy as anything important. Being kind to others is not going to kill someone. I have given up my seat plenty of times to help someone out and I have made my kids squoosh over to let another person/child sit as well. I have no expections of others but it is appreciated when someone actually does something nice for you. Overall I think most people are pretty courteous but it is the few that aren't that really stand out. YMMV.

 

[dogluva]

I wanted to add something to the whole "wait for another bus" argument. One trip we waited for 7 (yes 7) buses. It was a crowded time of year. It was not park closing etc. but it was nighttime. We knew we wanted to sit so we did wait our turn etc. When we got to the front people pushed past us. Some people were nice enough to wait for us to try and board but most just pushed on past. We had 3 little ones at the time and 2 strollers. We were prepared etc. to get on but had to juggle a bit. So we did wait and we still almost didn't get a seat. Many people are simply rude. There are no two ways about it. We were polite but I can't lie we were pissed. Some people even almost knocked one of our children down. It was ridiculous. We were not slow moving or blocking the way. I was simply trying to carry 2 small children and hold onto a 3rd while my DH carried the strollers. We were moving just like everyone else and we were the first ones in line! That night we decided that we would never ever stay at a bus only resort.

As for the teens/young adults who say that they are tired all day and too bad for the child who needs to sit because they were in a stroller all day, well, if you were MY child- I would rip your butt out of that seat so fast your head would spin (but hey, that's just me). I get being tired etc. but a small child simply cannot balance and hold onto the rails the same way a young adult could. It is dangerous. It is not an issue of the child needing to sit and rest. Of course you are entitled to behave in any manner you chose but I will still have my opinion of it.
I don't expect anyone to do anything for me and my family but it does astound me sometimes that others simply don't see courtesy as anything important. Being kind to others is not going to kill someone. I have given up my seat plenty of times to help someone out and I have made my kids squoosh over to let another person/child sit as well. I have no expections of others but it is appreciated when someone actually does something nice for you. Overall I think most people are pretty courteous but it is the few that aren't that really stand out. YMMV.

Well said. I cannot imagine watching a child swing from one end of the bus to the other while I am comfy cozy on a seat. I would also disown my teenagers who didn't offer a small child, elderly, pregnant woman, etc. their seat.

 

[maxiesmom]

I look at it this way. If you know your child/mom/grandma can't stand on a bus, then it is YOUR responsibility to see that they don't. Rent a car, grab a taxi, or wait for the next bus. There are options besides putting the safety of your family members into the hands of total strangers. If you can't bother to see that your family members are safe, why do you expect others to?

I think getting onto a bus and expecting others to get out of their seat because you think they should is pretty darn self-centered. If people want to get up, then that is great! But no one should feel they have to, just because someone else thinks they should.

 

[playswithstars]

If your child needs a seat and you don't want them to worry about having to stand than you wait for another bus, get a cab, rent a car. I find the self-entitlement in this post ridiculous. Don't get on a standing room only bus and expect somebody else to give up their seat just because you have a small child. Everyone on that bus is just as tired.

So what about the adults and young adults that waited in line for another bus just so they could have a seat? Pretend they have nothing wrong with them they just want a seat because they are tired. Are they supposed to give up the seat they waited for just because your "precious" child deserves a seat more?

As for the balancing issue I know there are metal poles on at least some of the busses. I also know on some of the busses there are steps that lead up to another set of seats. Which I did sit on at one point during our vacation because I was tired and have trouble standing in one place for long and there were no more seats. I definitely didn't expect anyone to know that I have back issues and give up their seat to me though. Every time I get on a standing room only bus I make the decision that yes, I'll have to put up with standing for a little bit. If you don't want your small child having to try to stand on a moving bus then don't get on the standing room only bus.

I also have to say that in January I saw young kids on an pretty empty bus that didn't want to sit because they enjoyed the novelty of getting to stand on a bus.

To the person that said that children should get to sit down because otherwise they would have/are having a meltdown after a long day in Disney. What exactly is that teaching your child? If they are cranky they can get what they want by throwing a fit?

To be clear I have given my seat up to women with sleeping babies. My problem with this thread is the fact that people are acting like just because they have a small child/baby they automatically deserve a seat and anyone who doesn't give them their seat is automatically rude.

 

[Momvic5]

Well said. I cannot imagine watching a child swing from one end of the bus to the other while I am comfy cozy on a seat. I would also disown my teenagers who didn't offer a small child, elderly, pregnant woman, etc. their seat.

At the same time though....I can not imagine entering an obviously crowded bus with my small child and getting angry because no one gave up their cozy seat for my child. Chances are that if I am angry because my small child was not given a seat then I am probably expecting others to tend to my needs. If you are not expecting a seat to be given to your child when you enter the bus then you probably would not be angry when it isn't - you would just be thankful when someone was kind enough to give his/her seat up. It is the sense of entitlement that irritates me. Most people are kind and courteous in these type situations, but it is very frustrating when you realize that people have replaced being thankful with being entitled.

 

[karinbelle]

My grandmother, a very smart person, taught me a lesson when I was young.

She said you only have control over your own actions. It does no good to try to change other people. You can only change yourself (or your reaction to them).

If you can't change the situation, change your perspective. Pity the ones sitting - they must have a personal issue you don't know about (maybe physical, maybe mental, but still an issue).

We all have to live with our own choices. As another poster said - "karma"

What goes around comes around.


Choose to give up your seat if it is possible. Kindness like that spreads. Maybe others will see your example and repeat it on the next bus.

 

[Melissa&Shawn]

My grandmother, a very smart person, taught me a lesson when I was young.

She said you only have control over your own actions. It does no good to try to change other people. You can only change yourself (or your reaction to them).

If you can't change the situation, change your perspective. Pity the ones sitting - they must have a personal issue you don't know about (maybe physical, maybe mental, but still an issue).

We all have to live with our own choices. As another poster said - "karma"

What goes around comes around.


Choose to give up your seat if it is possible. Kindness like that spreads. Maybe others will see your example and repeat it on the next bus.

Well said!!!

 

[frtchr]

My grandmother, a very smart person, taught me a lesson when I was young.

She said you only have control over your own actions. It does no good to try to change other people. You can only change yourself (or your reaction to them).

If you can't change the situation, change your perspective. Pity the ones sitting - they must have a personal issue you don't know about (maybe physical, maybe mental, but still an issue).

We all have to live with our own choices. As another poster said - "karma"

What goes around comes around.


Choose to give up your seat if it is possible. Kindness like that spreads. Maybe others will see your example and repeat it on the next bus.

LOVE it!!!

Just out of curiosity, what are the laws in FL about having kids in cabs who would be in a car seat in a regular car?

 

[kelleyrn2000]

I have given up bus seats many a time in my life, and of course would appreciate the same kindness extended to me. I don't expect it though. It is suprising the number of people who apparently don't feel the "kindness" to give up seats in general. I could never sit there and watch someone obviously struggling to stand unless I myself was physically unable to stand (and I don't mean just tired). But that is just me, and I guess we dont all feel the same.

I remember several years ago, we had to wait an hour to get seated at a restaurant where we planned to celebrate my husband's birthday. I was in early labor at the time (thankfully she waited til the next morning to come). During that whole hour I was having contractions that were visibly painful (no I'm not crazy....didn't want to miss my hubby's birthday), and not until the last 5 minutes did someone offer to get up. I thanked him (a young man) and actually declined his offer to sit down because I was having back labor and sitting was worse for me. But I was suprised at how long it took for one person to offer. But it no longer suprises me, and I will be sure to make sure it's something my children are raised to do.

 

[bavaria]

But by the same token, if you were in labour and did not take responsiblity for yourself, is it really fair to expect others to do what you yourself will not do?

These threads are always filled with people judging and lecturing, people who say that they were 'raised better than others', and self-righteous attitudes.

If people don't want to take responsiblity for themselves or their family, they really cannot expect others to do it for them.

If having a seat means so much, there are a few ways to guarantee one. Stay at a resort which uses touring style busses, or rent a car.

The vast majority of people in the world are kind and considerate of others; one shouldn't demand that they are that way, but rather appreciate it when they are.

 

[FoundMyPrince]

The perfect solution to this is to not allow anyone to stand. I know this is a dream, but everytime I ride the bus I think of the incredible risk Disney is taking with all the standing people, as well as the unbuckled seated.

Just imagine the tragedy if there was crash? It's sad that it would take something like that to make better safety policies.

I agree with this. Regardless of how you feel about giving up your seat or not, there are times when the buses take a quick turn unexpectedly - and it's not safe for anyone standing. Disney wants to pack the buses so they don't have to run as many buses - it saves them money. I wonder what would happen if people refused to stand in a jammed packed bus.