Useless Facts/Chit Chat Thread

[RvUsa]

I can't get my wifes bra off with tin snips, blowtorch and a plasma cutter if I had too.... but that is a whole other problem/story.

 

[Brer Bear]

Please share that skill ol buddy lol. I'll be your protoge.

You going to hold the bucket at the nursing home?

 

[AuburnJen92]

I can't get my wifes bra off with tin snips, blowtorch and a plasma cutter if I had too.... but that is a whole other problem/story.

I bet if she broke her arm, you would learn!!! (if my dh can, anyone can)

 

[Brer Bear]

OK, this is going down hill fast, so I'm going to interject a serious question. My DS is 15 and has his learners permit. We originally intended for him to get my Dad's old 91 Ford F150 for his first car. BUT, it has no airbags and my DW and I are having second thoughts. You fine folks who have gone thru this horrifying process of giving your child a motorized weapon give me your opinion!

 

[RvUsa]

It's not so much a skill thing as it is a willingness thing .... LOL I have the skill.... just not the opportunity.

 

[AuburnJen92]

My son is only 4, but having a sister that had less than a clue on how to drive, even with driving school, I would say you have a tough decision on your hands.

The truck is a reliable one and can provide safety in an accident, if he wears his seatbelt. You cannot be there with him 24/7 to make that happen though.

I would have to lean against it if his driving is suspect. If he is very responsible, I would consider it. Again, very tough decision knowing all the safety features they have on newer models.

 

[We4mickey]

My DS wants a truck. I told him he can't afford the gas to run it. We are looking for a car now.

 

[auntie]

OK, this is going down hill fast, so I'm going to interject a serious question. My DS is 15 and has his learners permit. We originally intended for him to get my Dad's old 91 Ford F150 for his first car. BUT, it has no airbags and my DW and I are having second thoughts. You fine folks who have gone thru this horrifying process of giving your child a motorized weapon give me your opinion!

I am dealing with this as we speak. 16 year old..soon to be 17 in June. Taking drivers ed now..but we've been driving with him nearly every day since he first received his learners permit last June. Now that the actual license is right around the corner, we've been looking at cars...and having been through this a couple of times before, we wouldn't consider anything without an airbag. They save lives..it's just that simple. We also have a Collision repair business. I can't tell you the cars I've seen with the indentation in the windshield where heads have hit..and you know that people don't up and walk away from those hits. Most importantly is wearing his seat belt. I think that most kids do this as second nature, as they have been in car seats since infancy, and wearing a seat belt is just a part of their lives. Having a car or truck with an airbag is an added safety element that I personally think is worth it. We live in a pretty congested area..lots of traffic. You could be driving some 30 years and still have an accident. Can't account for the driving habits of those around you, even if you are a defensive, careful driver. You will also find when you have to put him on the insurance policy it will be to your advantage to have vehicles equipped with anti-lock breaks and airbags. They are classified as inexperienced operators..and let's face it ...they are. Once kids drive...you won't ever sleep again. Seriously..you just don't. Until I hear them come in at night I'm restless. When I hear sirens in my area..and they're going on for a bit too long...I'm on the cell with "where are ya?". You never know...and for me personallly having an airbag in the car is a safety priority. You don't ever want to be in a position where God forbid there is an accident and your child is injured because there wasn't an airbag..especially if the choice could have been made to make sure he was in a car with one. There are so many things to worry about, things that will keep you up nights until you hear the key in the door..don't let this be one of them. Just my two cents.





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[LONE-STAR]

I dont have kids so I can only tell you my situation. My first truck was a 3/4 ton 4x4 chevy no air bags. I was a ok driver most of my accidents where due to off-roading even rolled a truck on a trail one night. My point is most of us did not have air bags in our first autos but we are still here today. I am however a firm believer in seat belts saved me more times than i can count. But if you fell your kid should have a air bag then I would wait and get him a truck with one. Just my 2 cents.

 

[BigDaddyRog]

Im kinda like Lonestar on this one...we had junkers that barely ran...airbags??? is that what ya called it when ya had to tape a garbage bag over the broken window??? Air conditioning? Is that what ya called it when ya took the taped garbage bag OFF of the broken window? We didnt wear helmets when riding bikes, and we actually RODE bikes, we played football in the street, not on PS2. We were home by the time the streetlights came on, not when mom called on the cellphone. The neighbors would tell your PARENTS when ya broke a glass in their home with a baseball, not the cops and a lawyer!! And when they saw your dad whipping your butt for foul language they come over and compliment him for being a concerned caring parent, not jump on the horn with child protection.......boy, this sure is a different world.

 

[auntie]

I dont have kids so I can only tell you my situation. My first truck was a 3/4 ton 4x4 chevy no air bags. I was a ok driver most of my accidents where due to off-roading even rolled a truck on a trail one night. My point is most of us did not have air bags in our first autos but we are still here today. I am however a firm believer in seat belts saved me more times than i can count. But if you fell your kid should have a air bag then I would wait and get him a truck with one. Just my 2 cents.

I understand your point..and I didn't have an airbag in every car I drove either. I also didn't use a seat belt when I was a kid....my parents even had kids drive in the middle between them. It was a different time. Were they bad parents?.of course not. However we are better informed and more educated as to auto safety now. There are vehicles equipped with airbags. Also...I think it's easier to say you don't worry about it for yourself..as opposed to whether you would want your CHILD to have a vehicle equipped with one.
As a parent you don't ever want to have to live with the ramifications of not having chosen one..if there was a choice to do so. Also..you will find that there are discounts on the vehicles that are equipped with these safety features..as opposed to those that don't have them. When you are trying to insure a teenage driver you can use every applicable discount available to you.

 

[terri01p]

It certainly was a different day and age back then...we use to sit on the hood of the car while my dad drove.
We got to drive sitting in my dad's lap at the age of 6.
We laid in the dash of the car on long trips.
Laid in the back seat with our feet sticking out the window of the car.
God it's a wonder we ever lived...

Miss those good ole days of not thinking or giving a crap about anything.

 

[Brer Bear]

Thanks for the honest replies! I can remember when nobody needed a mini-van, because if you had more people than seats, we just took the truck w/ a cover and loaded 6 or 8 in the back!

This is the first time I've ever been faced with putting a price tag on my kids safety. I don't want to spend a small fortune knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender....but don't want to be cheap, again knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender!

 

[lisa8200]

Thanks for the honest replies! I can remember when nobody needed a mini-van, because if you had more people than seats, we just took the truck w/ a cover and loaded 6 or 8 in the back!

This is the first time I've ever been faced with putting a price tag on my kids safety. I don't want to spend a small fortune knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender....but don't want to be cheap, again knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender!

Extra piece of mind is always good but, I would stress
that it is no substitute for caution to your children. We all lived through our childhoods but, most of us didn't have that no fear attitude and if we did, we knew there were consequences even if we didn't think it could happen to us .I see people all the time that don't use caution because they think air bags etc. are there to replace there own responsibility for safety. I didn't mean to rant, I just see it at work all the time. Some people want everything they can get that they can blame an accident or injury on, when with a little personall responsibility it could have been avoided without the new fangled gadjets.

 

[auntie]

Thanks for the honest replies! I can remember when nobody needed a mini-van, because if you had more people than seats, we just took the truck w/ a cover and loaded 6 or 8 in the back!

This is the first time I've ever been faced with putting a price tag on my kids safety. I don't want to spend a small fortune knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender....but don't want to be cheap, again knowing he's going to have at least a fenderbender!

You're absolutely right..they are going to get in an accident. It's really a matter of when..not if. You hope that it is just that...a fender bender.
It makes me sick when I see (and have to hear from my son) about the new cars that some parents provide for these new drivers. It's ridiculous. Its become sort of a status symbol as to who can provide the best ride for their newly licensed child. My son who is researching daily...knows he is NOT going to be among those to receive keys to a new car when he passes his road test. I don't have a NEW car..I don't think I'll be buying one for a teenager driver. That being said, it is possible for us to get something used....that does have an airbag. Teenagers are invincible..they think these things happen to "other" people. While a drivers ed course is a must...driving with these kids on a daily basis in areas they themselves will be frequenting when on their own...is really important. I've also experienced first hand the difference in teen boys..and teen girls. The girls take that extra moment of time...they aren't so heavy footed. The boys..the gas peddle is their best friend. It may not be when mom or dad is in the car..but it is when they are alone or with their friends. It's something in their genetic make up..and apparently it effects their right foot!


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[ntsammy5]

The boys..the gas peddle is their best friend. It may not be when mom or dad is in the car..but it is when they are alone or with their friends. It's something in their genetic make up..and apparently it effects their right foot!

That's the truth.

We've been lucky, no serious accidents with 3 kidss, and absolutely NONE until any of them had been driving for at least 10 years!

 

[PolynesianPixie]

Boy, did I miss some serious conversations yesterday! Bras and teenage drivers!

I haven't thought too much about the car thing yet.....but safety is a top priority! I think arming them with as much padding and common sense as possible is a good idea!

 

[RvUsa]

My first car was a 68 mustang with about 500 hp. That thing could do 160mph easy, and it saw it on a regular basis.

NOW,


I am a dad, and my stomach does a flip when I think about my son doing that now......

You know, I was an idiot with that car (boy do I miss it), speeding, drag racing, riding around with 9 people stuffed in it, cutting class... boy the good old days. But I can't imagine how I am going to feel when Matt is old enough to drive. NO WONDER MY DAD IS SNOW WHITE ON TOP!!!

With everything that I did, I only had 1 accident with that car, I backed out of a parking space while talking to a buddy, smashed into a little rice burner pickup that was passing behind me. SMASHED the $@#$ out of it, pushed the fender into the battery, then the battery into the engine. You know what happened to my 68? I had a 1/2" scratch on my bumper that you couldn't see if I didn't tell you where it was. The moral of the story, keep the kids locked in the basement until they are at least 30 .

Seriously, I would take an old ford truck with no airbags over a tiny little import with 20 airbags any day, it is a matter of inertia and momentum. Take an aluminum can and a brick, hit the brick as hard as you can with the can, then the other way around. Which one wins? I will take the brick every time.

JMHO
John

 

[LONE-STAR]

My first car was a 68 mustang with about 500 hp. That thing could do 160mph easy, and it saw it on a regular basis.

NOW,


I am a dad, and my stomach does a flip when I think about my son doing that now......

You know, I was an idiot with that car (boy do I miss it), speeding, drag racing, riding around with 9 people stuffed in it, cutting class... boy the good old days. But I can't imagine how I am going to feel when Matt is old enough to drive. NO WONDER MY DAD IS SNOW WHITE ON TOP!!!

With everything that I did, I only had 1 accident with that car, I backed out of a parking space while talking to a buddy, smashed into a little rice burner pickup that was passing behind me. SMASHED the $@#$ out of it, pushed the fender into the battery, then the battery into the engine. You know what happened to my 68? I had a 1/2" scratch on my bumper that you couldn't see if I didn't tell you where it was. The moral of the story, keep the kids locked in the basement until they are at least 30 .

Seriously, I would take an old ford truck with no airbags over a tiny little import with 20 airbags any day, it is a matter of inertia and momentum. Take an aluminum can and a brick, hit the brick as hard as you can with the can, then the other way around. Which one wins? I will take the brick every time.

JMHO
John

Great minds thank alike are you sure your not from Texas. If you like the whole brick to a beer can idea you need to get a front replacment bumper on your superduty. I have had on on every truck they are great.

 

[ynottony99]

Great minds thank alike are you sure your not from Texas. If you like the whole brick to a beer can idea you need to get a front replacment bumper on your superduty. I have had on on every truck they are great.

If I may jump in here for a moment, just what bumper did you get for your superduty????? Do you remember that old made for T V movie, 'Duell'. Dennis Weaver was being chased by some nut in a semi because he passed him or something. Anyway, that truck had a railroad tie welded on the front for a bumper. Now THAT is SUPERDUTY!