upgrading my canon xsi to a canon 60D

http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-Rebel-T4i-vs-Canon_EOS_60D


Its very close to a toss up. Both are not the newest but still good cameras. They use basically the same sensor. The 60d is going to be a bigger camera. I would hold both in hand and see what you like best.

I own a t2i which for me is boardering on a little small for my hand but perfect for my wife. I have held a 60d and its more to my liking size wise but too big for my wife.

I still say there is something wrong with your camera or memory card. The only time my t2i gets busy is when i shoot 3 bracketed photos (really 6 since i record in Raw and Jpeg at the same time).
 
http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-Rebel-T4i-vs-Canon_EOS_60D


Its very close to a toss up. Both are not the newest but still good cameras. They use basically the same sensor. The 60d is going to be a bigger camera. I would hold both in hand and see what you like best.

I own a t2i which for me is boardering on a little small for my hand but perfect for my wife. I have held a 60d and its more to my liking size wise but too big for my wife.

I still say there is something wrong with your camera or memory card. The only time my t2i gets busy is when i shoot 3 bracketed photos (really 6 since i record in Raw and Jpeg at the same time).

I was going to suggest the same thing. I would probably lean toward the T4i just because it's a little smaller, which I'm used to and prefer. It just goes to show everyone is different.

However, since the issue you brought up as your greatest limitation with your current camera is the burst rate, you need to pay particular attention to that area. Read this review comparing the 2:

http://www.lightandmatter.org/2012/equipment-reviews/canon-t4i-vs-60d-is-the-t4i-the-better-buy/

At first glance it would appear the 2 would perform with similar results in terms of solving your buffer problem. The T4i has a burst rate of 5.0 while the 60D has a burst rate of 5.3. But apparently the 60D has an upgraded buffer that the T4i did not get. It will shoot up to 16 RAW shots before filling the buffer, while the T4i seems to be about what I experience on my T2i at 6.
 
I was going to suggest the same thing. I would probably lean toward the T4i just because it's a little smaller, which I'm used to and prefer. It just goes to show everyone is different.

However, since the issue you brought up as your greatest limitation with your current camera is the burst rate, you need to pay particular attention to that area. Read this review comparing the 2:

http://www.lightandmatter.org/2012/equipment-reviews/canon-t4i-vs-60d-is-the-t4i-the-better-buy/

At first glance it would appear the 2 would perform with similar results in terms of solving your buffer problem. The T4i has a burst rate of 5.0 while the 60D has a burst rate of 5.3. But apparently the 60D has an upgraded buffer that the T4i did not get. It will shoot up to 16 RAW shots before filling the buffer, while the T4i seems to be about what I experience on my T2i at 6.

Thanks! I probably will stick to the 60d because of the upgraded buffer and since there is not much of a price difference between the two. I will keep watching the price and maybe when the 70d comes out I can get a good deal on it. :)
 
Ok, I checked out the T5i and really like it! I compared it at the store with the 60D and it seemed significantly faster. I also noticed a difference in how it takes video, t5i was brighter and focuses better.

What do you think, should I go for the 60D or the T5i?
 

Ok, I checked out the T5i and really like it! I compared it at the store with the 60D and it seemed significantly faster. I also noticed a difference in how it takes video, t5i was brighter and focuses better.

What do you think, should I go for the 60D or the T5i?

I'm in the same position as you. I have the xsi as well and feel your pain with the busy message all the time. I had the same thing happen to me a bunch.

Tough call to make on the 60D or T5i. The t5i is only a slight upgrade over the t4i if you can even call it that. So whatever way you were leaning before this should really sway you back the other way. Personally I would probably be looking to catch the t4i on sale since they discontinued it with the release of the t5i. You might be able to find a good deal on it as stores clear their inventory. Or still wait to see about supposed 70D coming sometime this year. So many options and decisions.:lmao:

I'm still on the fence on whether to upgrade from my xsi. I don't feel like I've out grown it yet but I'm getting close and the new cameras are very tempting. Let me know what you decide to go with and how it works out for you. Would love the input from someone in the same position.
 
Ok, I checked out the T5i and really like it! I compared it at the store with the 60D and it seemed significantly faster. I also noticed a difference in how it takes video, t5i was brighter and focuses better.

What do you think, should I go for the 60D or the T5i?

If video is important to you, I'd definitely recommend seriously considering the t5i. I have had the 60D for a year and a half or so, and I love it, but the lack of autofocus during video is a real impediment to casual video shooting. Its possible for pros and serious hobbyists to take wonderful video without having autofocus during the shot, but for me, for casual family stuff, I'm just never satisfied with my results. As a consequence, I shoot a lot less video than I did with my old point & shoot.

I like the size and ergonomics of the 60D, like having the rotating wheel around the controls on the back. That's generally something you get as you pay more: more functions can be controlled directly via their own buttons or wheels, vs. having to go into a menu. But if I were buying today, with the 60D model being that much older, I'd consider the t5i or waiting (weeks, maybe?) for the 70D to see what it brings to the party.

One advantage to the 60D is that it's supported by Magic Lantern, which adds on some cool features, many of them oriented toward serious video, but also gives extra capabilities for exposure bracketing, long exposures, etc.

Saving a little money on the body means you can spend more on glass, of course, or a good off-camera flash like the 430ex II. My 60D spends most of its time hooked up to the Sigma 17-50mm f2.8 zoom, which is big & heavy compared to my kit 18-135mm, but gives great image quality and a consistent fast aperture through the whole zoom range. I hardly use my faster primes (50mm f1.8 and sigma 30mm f1.4) since I got it.

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I have the anon Rebel Xsi, for the most part I have been extremely happy with this camera. My problem is that every time I shoot a lot of pictures, the camera seems to freeze up. This usually comes after about 45 min or so of taking pictures. I go to press the shutter halfway down like usual and nothing happens. Then it says "busy" on the screen. Sometimes it clears up right away but usually takes a minute or two. Sometimes turning the camera off and back on helps and sometimes it doesn't. Any idea why this is happening?
Does it say "buSY" or does it say
FlashBusy.png
?

If the flash indicator is on with the "buSY" message, it probably means the camera is waiting for the flash to recycle. The Xsi will deliberately stop shooting if you've used the flash enough times in a short period to prevent the flash from overheating. From your descriptions, this sounds like it may be the case.

When this happens, will the camera shoot if you disable the flash?

Also, try disabling the auto light optimizer and see if you still have the issue.

If the flash indicator isn't on, and it simply says "buSY" it is probably a buffer issue. Is the card-write indicator (on the back of the camera) flashing when it does this -- is it writing to the card?

The latest firmware version for your camera is 1.1.0. If this isn't what you have, I suggest your first step is to upgrade. You can check the version in your camera in the set-up 3 menu.
 
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Thank you all for your help. I still haven't decided what to do yet. I really want to update my old rebel xsi, but not sure if it's worth it yet. Do you think the upgrade is worth it? or I could wait to see what the 70D will offer.

In the meantime I did buy myself a reasonable waterproof camera. I had a kodak sport 123 and the latch broke, instead of sending it in I decided to buy a new one, the Fujifilm XP60. I've been playing around with it. For a point and shoot camera it takes nice pictures. The camera has a lot of nice features, it also has the ability to take pictures while videoing. I thought I would love this, but the pictures are really fuzzy! I'm surprised the quality of the photos are not better. I also was surprised how loud the click is on the video when I took the picture. It's not a feature I would use as much as I would like.

Which leads me to the question...is that the way all cameras are? I thought I would love that feature on the Canon T5I. Does anyone know if the pictures taken while taking video on an SLR are clear? Is there a lot of background noise on the video when snapping the pictures?

I assumed the picture quality would be as good as the camera is when it's not on video. I did not realize it how noisy taking the picture would be on the video. Do you think it's because the FujiFilm XP60 is a cheaper camera, or will the same thing happen on the T5I?

Thanks for all your help... :)
 
Thank you all for your help. I still haven't decided what to do yet. I really want to update my old rebel xsi, but not sure if it's worth it yet. Do you think the upgrade is worth it? or I could wait to see what the 70D will offer.

In the meantime I did buy myself a reasonable waterproof camera. I had a kodak sport 123 and the latch broke, instead of sending it in I decided to buy a new one, the Fujifilm XP60. I've been playing around with it. For a point and shoot camera it takes nice pictures. The camera has a lot of nice features, it also has the ability to take pictures while videoing. I thought I would love this, but the pictures are really fuzzy! I'm surprised the quality of the photos are not better. I also was surprised how loud the click is on the video when I took the picture. It's not a feature I would use as much as I would like.

Which leads me to the question...is that the way all cameras are? I thought I would love that feature on the Canon T5I. Does anyone know if the pictures taken while taking video on an SLR are clear? Is there a lot of background noise on the video when snapping the pictures?

I assumed the picture quality would be as good as the camera is when it's not on video. I did not realize it how noisy taking the picture would be on the video. Do you think it's because the FujiFilm XP60 is a cheaper camera, or will the same thing happen on the T5I?

Thanks for all your help... :)
I believe the picture taken during video on the 60D is same as other still pictures taken without it being in video mode. You can also ask in the 60D section at http://photography-on-the.net/forum/
 
I did it, I'm upgrading my xsi, I ordered the T5I! :) It will be delivered today!! :)

the newest Rebel is a good upgrade. The 60D has been selling off ($525 !) supposedly because of the introduction of the 70D
 
Here's my review of the t5i compared to the xsi.

The big thing for me is the t5i is fast!! It not been busy yet. Which is impressive as my xsi gets busy after 15-20 pictures.

On the t5i the picture quality is sharper, it has more detail, but not dramatically different from the xsi. The lighting is better on the t5i, the background on pictures are brighter.


The swivel screen was a feature I thought I would really love, but it wasn't what I expected. The camera had a hard time focusing when I tried taking a picture on live view. The pictures that I did take were not as sharp, not using live view was better for focusing. The lens was really noisy when focusing. The best way for me to use it was to look thru the screen focus on the subject and then turn on the live view screen at the higher angle I wanted.

I haven't mastered the video feature, maybe I'll love it when I do. Right now, I really don't know if I would use the t5i for videoing that much. It may be easier to just use my point and shoot or video camera. Another thing is, I didn't realize the pictures taken during the video would freeze the video screen for a second. I would not use that feature as much as I expected either. Can I edit that pause out?

I realize now I needed to buy the t5i package with the 18-135 STM lens. I bought the body only, and never realized how noisy my 18-200 lens would be. Unless I use manual focus the lens is always moving, which is a bit frustrating. B&H said if I want the package deal with the STM lens I have to send everything back and reorder it. I would buy the lens separately but it's @ a $200.00 difference. That's crazy!! I'm use to my 18-200 lens, I wonder if I'll miss having that extra zoom. I have to decide soon as a Disney trip is in 2 weeks.


If my xsi didn't get so busy I would probably not upgrade. Even though the xsi is older it's still a great camera, but I really love how fast the t5i is!! It is so fast!! I love how sharp and bright the pictures are. It's still a lot of money for just being a quicker camera with sharper pictures, as the video and swivel screen weren't what I expected, but now that I have an updated version it will be hard not to keep it.

I would LOVE to hear advice on the lenses, videoing and focusing with live view, on the T5I or similar cameras. Thanks!! :)
 
True dslrs use an alternate focusing system when using live view, which is slower than the main focus system.
Sony dslts allow for full focus on live view, but they aren't true dslrs.
 
True dslrs use an alternate focusing system when using live view, which is slower than the main focus system.
Sony dslts allow for full focus on live view, but they aren't true dslrs.

Thanks!! I had a real hard time focusing the camera on live view. I will try manually focusing the camera on live view. I guess the main purpose for the for the swivel screen is for movies?
 

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