Two curse words in the previews before "Cars" which is a rated G movie. Anyone else?

[cardaway]

I disagree that there has been incrementalism in ratings of movies, but rather an evolution of a rating scale that has become more specific over time (e.g. the creation of PG-13). I would imagine the next step will be creating a G-6 (or something like that) rating.

Exactly. Things have evolved to give the public what they want. PG13 is a great example. Since its creation it has continued to be the rating you give movies that are not worthy of an R but not PG. It should be very obvious to the movie going public that a PG13 movie is not something you should let your kids see without researching it first, but no theater is going to check ID's at the door.

No incrementalism, just an entire industry giving people what they want and evolving as they do.

 

[discernment]

Evolution...Incrementalism. The standards have changed through the years

You can call a shovel a spade but in the end its all the same thing.

For PG13 movies it has been more than just giving it that rating because it doesnt merit a PG or R rating. It is the studios pushing the PG13 edge as far as it will go. When the PG13 rating was created, you wouldnt find a PG13 movie with an "F" bomb in it. Please correct me if you find differently. Now as long as it meets certain criteria and amount used, the "F" word is a go in PG13 movies.

It all comes down to money. Some movies, and you know this to be true, are initially PG but then during editing certain content is added to get it that PG13 rating that will ensure it a better chance of raking in the most money.

Like I said i dont think the system should be change but lets not pretend that the rating system hasnt changed throughout the years.

 

[DisneyPhD]

If the commercials or station promos bother you the solution is simple.

Don't watch commercial TV.

Personally I love the short promos on Sci-Fi and Spike.

My orignal comment said I don't wacth Sci Fi anymore for this reason.

Sure you might enjoy them, people must or they wouldn't show them, but what an adult would really enjoy and like can be very different then what I think kids should see and be exposed to. Sci Fi comericals are a perfect example of that. The show it's self can be fine, but what is shown inbetween isn't.

discernment, your comment "Incrementalism. Slowly they lower standards and then you wonder how it got that way." makes me think of the Marge Simpson comment about how Fox has slowly turned hard core porn over the years they didn't noticed." (coming from a fox show.) BTW, also not a young kids show. I used to like it more before I was a mom, now often I will wacth shows I used to enjoy and think of kids wacthing them, and I don't enjoy them so much anymore. I must be getting old.

 

[cardaway]

Sure you might enjoy them, people must or they wouldn't show them, but what an adult would really enjoy and like can be very different then what I think kids should see and be exposed to. Sci Fi comericals are a perfect example of that. The show it's self can be fine, but what is shown inbetween isn't.

Children may like a couple shows on certain networks but most networks don't make any secret in who their target demographic is. Can't fault the network for programming to their target demographic.

 

[DisneyPhD]

Children may like a couple shows on certain networks but most networks don't make any secret in who their target demographic is. Can't fault the network for programming to their target demographic.

Sci fi is one of those. (spike too, another that showed Star Trek for a while.) That is why I stopped wacthing it. For a while though even TLC would show comericals for it, and we would be wacthing trading spaces, and those freaky scary ones would come on, that would really bug me. I haven't seen that for a while.

 

[TLHB70]

I mean do people really object to a movie NOT having swear words?

Exactly. Can't we keep at least one rating for clean movies, with no questionable language? Push the envelope all that you want in other ratings. I thought that G would always stay safe. Sure, they may not have d*** in the G movie now......they are thinking, "we will just introduce it in previews for a while........then we will add it to the movie." I don't care what anyone says, it is not right in my opion. Would everyone be ok if the d*** word was in the G movie once? twice? three times?

All of the people that like the curse words, want their kids to hear them or don't mind their kids hearing them, have several ratings to chose from. We only have one rating. Why can't we keep it clean? I don't understand why it is such a big deal to not include the borderline/questionable words.

 

[cardaway]

I mean do people really object to a movie NOT having swear words?

Do people really object to the idea of just not watching what wasn't created for them?

It's not like there is a shortage of "clean" choices out there. I'm sorry if your child is bored by the "clean" stuff, but you don't see people trying to force the makers of "clean" material grunge it up to make it more interesting for the rest of us. We just don't watch it.

 

[offwegotoneverland]

Hmm...I thought and read and thought some more before posting.

I think previews for G movies should stick with G previews.

That said I'm not thinking the two words discussed would make me think a movie should be PG (I'd be much much more upset with violent scenes than the two words indicated).

That said I'm very pleased that there are so many methods (web sites etc) to allow people to screen for those issues if that is there choice.

I would suggest you vote with your wallet if it concerns you.

However I don't think (and history bares this out as has been indicated) that a phrase that has been in movies since the 30's (regardless of marketing targets) can be used to say "we are sliding down the slope of no return" to kiddie porn...I mean it has been over 67 years and so far we are still debating the same words..

 

[elizke]

Do people really object to the idea of just not watching what wasn't created for them?

It's not like there is a shortage of "clean" choices out there. I'm sorry if your child is bored by the "clean" stuff, but you don't see people trying to force the makers of "clean" material grunge it up to make it more interesting for the rest of us. We just don't watch it.

I must respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree that there is not a shortage of clean choices out there. I mean once you're past the Barney stage it gets tough.

And I'm not trying to force anyone to do anything. As I said before, I think they would profit more from cleaner but mature TV and movies.


E.

 

[Charade]

Exactly. Can't we keep at least one rating for clean movies, with no questionable language?

"clean" and "questionable" are by whose standards?

 

[taxmom04]

I can't understand why there isan't a little more tolerance and compassion, from many of you, to those who simply ask for the G-rating to stay clean of
curse words. That's all we ask for: one rating out of the 5 or 6 available.

 

[Chipperdini]

Do people really object to the idea of just not watching what wasn't created for them?

I don't.

 

[Saxsoon]

LMQ: He has one three piston cups!

Mater: he did what in his cups!

This was a word from the red neck dictionary on Blue Collar TV, so even then it was not quite so clean as you think. I think kids hear a lot more worse in second grade.

 

[Chipperdini]

I think kids hear a lot more worse in second grade.

Sadly.

 

[outstandinfarmer]

I believe that preview is shown in all theaters for Cars. I noticed the word, but it wasn't too big of a deal for me (or the children I was with). They hear harsher words than that on the TV at home.

I agree. I didn't notice it, but kids hear much worse words on TV

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I can't understand why there isan't a little more tolerance and compassion, from many of you, to those who simply ask for the G-rating to stay clean of
curse words. That's all we ask for: one rating out of the 5 or 6 available.

March of the Penguins didn't have curse words and people had a hissy b/c it was fact based about nature and "too much" for sensitive eyes.


So in fact there are parents out there asking for more than the absence of certain vernacular. They want santized everything.

What it comes down to -- a movie has been created and granted "G" for general audiences. The tools are available for your to research in great detail and even knowing the ending of the movie if you like to make sure the plot is resolved in such a way as appropriate for your child.

So no--parents don't get to own the "g" rating. No it will never be 100% sanitized to your satisifaction b/c what you may deem as approrpriate for you little ones....another parent may not.

I had NO issues with MOP for my 3yo. NONE! I am glad I got a spoiler review first--just so I knew that some bad moments happened in the documentary in nature in the real world of a penguin....I think it totally deserved the G rating. Other parents disagreed.

So if generally speaking we cannot agree on what G means be it words, topics, or actions in the movie--then no, "we" cannot own any rating at all. It is rated for "General Audiences" and generally speaking Cars is appropriate for kids just as generally speaking MOP was appropriate for kids. And sadly generally speaking "damn" isn't an issue and generally speaking the phrase "Hillbilly hell" is comical and not cursing the land o' hillbillies.

Do your research ahead of time and make your judgements for what is suitable for your child.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Exactly. Can't we keep at least one rating for clean movies, with no questionable language? Push the envelope all that you want in other ratings. I thought that G would always stay safe. Sure, they may not have d*** in the G movie now......they are thinking, "we will just introduce it in previews for a while........then we will add it to the movie." I don't care what anyone says, it is not right in my opion. Would everyone be ok if the d*** word was in the G movie once? twice? three times?

Also wanted to add that when a movie is rated--it is rated independently of the previews attached to it.

And since a good chunk of us didn't see the preview--that that was probably the decision of the theater company to place it in there and they are the ones at fault. Not the ratings industry.

 

[Charade]

March of the Penguins didn't have curse words and people had a hissy b/c it was fact based about nature and "too much" for sensitive eyes.


So in fact there are parents out there asking for more than the absence of certain vernacular. They want santized everything.

What it comes down to -- a movie has been created and granted "G" for general audiences. The tools are available for your to research in great detail and even knowing the ending of the movie if you like to make sure the plot is resolved in such a way as appropriate for your child.

So no--parents don't get to own the "g" rating. No it will never be 100% sanitized to your satisifaction b/c what you may deem as approrpriate for you little ones....another parent may not.

I had NO issues with MOP for my 3yo. NONE! I am glad I got a spoiler review first--just so I knew that some bad moments happened in the documentary in nature in the real world of a penguin....I think it totally deserved the G rating. Other parents disagreed.

So if generally speaking we cannot agree on what G means be it words, topics, or actions in the movie--then no, "we" cannot own any rating at all. It is rated for "General Audiences" and generally speaking Cars is appropriate for kids just as generally speaking MOP was appropriate for kids. And sadly generally speaking "damn" isn't an issue and generally speaking the phrase "Hillbilly hell" is comical and not cursing the land o' hillbillies.

Do your research ahead of time and make your judgements for what is suitable for your child.

Couldn't have said it any better.

 

[bsmcneil]

Perhaps some of us just don't find it to be a 'nice' word? What is wrong with not wanting your kids using language you don't think is appropriate or necessary? I don't think anyone is saying 'damn' (or in this case, 'crap')is the 'most offensive term ever', or 'one of the worst swears possible...it just isn't a nice word. Simple.

Well, what I said was, "I can't believe anyone considers crap a CURSE word." I said nothing about it's nice-ness. That's a problem you have, which you managed to tie in to my comment. Maybe it's not nice, but I am amazed people consider it a curse word. Read what I wrote - simple.

 

[DisneyPhD]

Ok, so we saw cars tonight. This is what my 5 year old said after the Flicka preview "that movie doesn't look funny, AT ALL."

Personally I was more offended by the "How to eat fried worms preview." I don't want her repeting that for sure. My 10 year old nephew was with us, it looked just up his alley.

Oh and the almost 2 year old, didn't like it so much. I ended up in the "hall way" watching it there while she walked around. Oh well.

I still agree, for a preview the 2 words didn't need to be in it, and could of very easily been edited out, with none of the meaning lost. I think for the movie themselves they are fine, and it looks like an interesting movie, for preteens and above, not young kids who might be in cars. (Flika that is.)