Two curse words in the previews before "Cars" which is a rated G movie. Anyone else?

i can't believe people consider crap to be a curse word. the word that starts with s, yes, but crap? wow.
 
bsmcneil said:
i can't believe people consider crap to be a curse word. the word that starts with s, yes, but crap? wow.

Perhaps some of us just don't find it to be a 'nice' word? What is wrong with not wanting your kids using language you don't think is appropriate or necessary? I don't think anyone is saying 'damn' (or in this case, 'crap')is the 'most offensive term ever', or 'one of the worst swears possible...it just isn't a nice word. Simple.
 
basas said:
Perhaps some of us just don't find it to be a 'nice' word? What is wrong with not wanting your kids using language you don't think is appropriate or necessary? I don't think anyone is saying 'damn' (or in this case, 'crap')is the 'most offensive term ever', or 'one of the worst swears possible...it just isn't a nice word. Simple.

Simple--crap is not a curse word.

I will agree it isn't a nice word-but neither is fart.

Simply not being a nice word doesn't make it a curse word.
 
taxmom04 said:
I stand by my earlier post(quoted above) and wanted to add that the OP was not originally talking about the movie Cars but about a preview that she had no way of knowing ahead of time the content. When I pay my money for my children to see a G-rated movie I do not want to be bombarded with Damn and Hell used as CURSE words in the preview or the movie.
Also, just because they will eventually be exposed to the ways of the world, doesn't mean me just go ahead and allow our young children to be exposed to things way before they should. I have a friend who once told me"I hope there are certain things that my children see or hear(for example curse words) that ALWAYS shock them." I feel I have a responsibility to protect them from many things while they are young. Protector is one of a parent's major responsibilities. Surely you will agree with that. :confused3

Sure I would agree with that, but the OP did not do everything to protect her kids from the preview, and movie. She should of went to see the movie before she took the kids. That way she would know if it was ok " in her opinion " that her kids see it, and no the "why should I need to do that for a G rated movie" argument does not work.

Society is ever changing. Us as adults know what is out there. ( Thats how we can shield our kids from it. ) We can see damn, or hell as words used all the time. Movies, radio, TV etc. Those words might of been taboo years ago, but times change. Heck the Beatles were labeled bad for your kids to listen to. If you look back they are very very tame to the music of today.

The nice thing is we are allowed to raise our childern how we see fit, but there are always consequences to it. Having to view everything before we let our childern see it, or playing a video game before our child plays it are some examples. It should not be the movie, video game, radio, and TV industries that tell us what words are ok. They can only suggest, and we as parents must then decide if it is ok. If you are that concerned about certain words than you need to take the steps to make sure you childern are not exposed.

As for me I could care less if the words damn, or hell are in a G rated movie. They are not taboo words in my view at all. Will my children grow up to be drugg addicts, and criminals becuase I don't care if they heard the word damn? I don't think so, but everyone is welcome to their opinion.
 

Bob Slydell said:
I'm certain that if you go back to the early days of movies, films that would be deemed G still had the words damn and hell in them.

"Franky my dear I dont give a damn!" R Butler GWTW 1939
 
Jabber_Jaws said:
The nice thing is we are allowed to raise our childern how we see fit.

:thumbsup2
Can you imagine if everything had to be done based on popular opinions? Gee, no child under the age of two would be allowed to go to WDW. :rolleyes:

I think it is fine that the OP and a few other's here draw the line at damn and hell in a movie rated G. They won't own the movie, so their children will not be subjected to the words over and over again. I don't understand it, but I don't have to understand, because they are not my kids.

What I don't get, is why the OP thinks that it is wrong for a movie to be rated G when there are two very mild, almost not even considered a swear word, in it. If there were a line of 100 moms or dads in line with their kids to see this movie, and someone went up to each and every one of them and told them that they will see a preview that has the word damn in it, and the movie itself has hell in it. How many would take their kids and go home? Really? I would say less than 5! So the rating board should just reconsider the content of a G movie because a TINY percentage of parents are appalled at two mild swear words?

How many parents would be MORE upset to have the movie rated PG, and since they don't let their youngs kids see PG movies, miss out on it, only to discover the PG rating was because of the word hell??? I know I would be more than a little ticked off.
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Simple--crap is not a curse word.

:lmao: My kids keep telling on each other when one of them says crap. I keep telling them it is completely acceptable, because when I was a kid, it was the word we used in place of the s-h word.
 
I don't like the gratuitous use of curse words, like movies where there is one in every other sentence. To me, that is just someone going for shock value who really doesn't have anything meaningful to say. It does not bother me when they are used appropriately (for lack of a better word) for emphasis and to make a point, like with the Gone With the Wind line. I would be a little taken aback to hear "damn" when taking my 4 year old child to see a children's movie, but I wouldn't make a big deal out of it for myself, as he already knows that I consider that inappropriate language for him to use.

I will say, though, that I have never considered "crap" a curse word. To me that is like considering "darn" a curse word. "Holy Crap!" is an often used phrase in our home.
 
I can't help but to wonder when people don't allow their kids to "swear" but allow them to say hgeck, crap, darn, gosh, friggin... all the words that basically mean the same thing as their "swearing" counterparts and have no meaning beyond that. How they go on thinking it's any better is very interesting.
 
cardaway said:
I can't help but to wonder when people don't allow their kids to "swear" but allow them to say hgeck, crap, darn, gosh, friggin... all the words that basically mean the same thing as their "swearing" counterparts and have no meaning beyond that. How they go on thinking it's any better is very interesting.

I agree. I was not allowed to swear growing up, and that included darn, heck, gosh, and other crude words. Those words are just "light" variations of the harsher words.
 
cardaway said:
I can't help but to wonder when people don't allow their kids to "swear" but allow them to say hgeck, crap, darn, gosh, friggin... all the words that basically mean the same thing as their "swearing" counterparts and have no meaning beyond that. How they go on thinking it's any better is very interesting.


FWIW, those words aren't used in our home either. Also, TV Guardian filters a lot of those also.
 
cardaway said:
I can't help but to wonder when people don't allow their kids to "swear" but allow them to say hgeck, crap, darn, gosh, friggin... all the words that basically mean the same thing as their "swearing" counterparts and have no meaning beyond that. How they go on thinking it's any better is very interesting.

I'm not offended by words, but I taught my kids that many people, especially older people are, and thus it was a "politeness issue." I don't see any reason to offend someone just so that I can have my right to say damn (or whatever!)
 
TLHB70 said:
FWIW, those words aren't used in our home either. Also, TV Guardian filters a lot of those also.

One of these days I'll have to check out that feature. I know on TV it's quite the opposite. Those words come out all the time as alternatives for the originals. On some of the more harsh movies it can get quite humorous. Proves that many movies should not be on TV no matter what you do to them.
 
First of all, I think we should all be able to decide for our families without being so judgemental of where others draw the line. It's enough to take care of our own without deciding for others, whether they are being too strict or too lenient. I never have understood why people are so harsh on eachother's parenting!

Secondly, I agree with the OP. I have relaxed somewhat now that my kids are 7 and 10 and we can discuss these things, but when they were younger and in the "learn by repeating everything" age I preferred they not hear these things at all, and I considered damn to be one they shouldn't repeat. As mentioned already, I just always thought, "WHY do they have to use these words when it would be the same without them?" I remember watching Stuart Little with the kids and a cat said "What the hell?" I didn't faint or have a fit, but sitting with my 3 year old I just though "WHY??" Just uneccessary.

And as far as hell goes, it is a tough one. My kids can use it in CCD in context, but in school he got in trouble for it. And it was in context too. A schoolmate was talking about someone really bad who died (a story he was making up). My son asked if this person had gone to hell. He had to leave art class and write a note and a note was sent home and a few other things. I was thinking that was kind of silly. But obviously this public school has it's own standards and we'll follow them

I am pretty strict when it comes to colorful language. I always save it for special occasions, like when I'm by myself and slam my fingers in a door or something. I think it's way overused in movies (again, just uneccssary), and it just bothers me to hear it too much. My parents never did so I guess I just never got comfortable with it.

But my neighbor won't even allow her kids to say "I swear I .....". And I've told my kids not to say that there. If that's her limit then that's her choice. Doesn't hurt me in any way.

E.
 
First of all, I think we should all be able to decide for our families without being so judgmental of where others draw the line. It's enough to take care of our own without deciding for others, whether they are being too strict or too lenient. I never have understood why people are so harsh on each other's parenting!

Secondly, I agree with the OP. I have relaxed somewhat now that my kids are 7 and 10 and we can discuss these things, but when they were younger and in the "learn by repeating everything" age I preferred they not hear these things at all, and I considered damn to be one they shouldn't repeat. As mentioned already, I just always thought, "WHY do they have to use these words when it would be the same without them?" I remember watching Stuart Little with the kids and a cat said "What the hell?" I didn't faint or have a fit, but sitting with my 3 year old I just though "WHY??" Just unnecessary.

And as far as hell goes, it is a tough one. My kids can use it in CCD in context, but in school he got in trouble for it. And it was in context too. A schoolmate was talking about someone really bad who died (a story he was making up). My son asked if this person had gone to hell. He had to leave art class and write a note and a note was sent home and a few other things. I was thinking that was kind of silly. But obviously this public school has it's own standards and we'll follow them

I am pretty strict when it comes to colorful language. I always save it for special occasions, like when I'm by myself and slam my fingers in a door or something. I think it's way overused in movies (again, just unnecessary), and it just bothers me to hear it too much. My parents never did so I guess I just never got comfortable with it.

But my neighbor won't even allow her kids to say "I swear I .....". And I've told my kids not to say that there. If that's her limit then that's her choice. Doesn't hurt me in any way.

E.
 
Jabber_Jaws said:
Sure I would agree with that, but the OP did not do everything to protect her kids from the preview, and movie. She should of went to see the movie before she took the kids. That way she would know if it was ok " in her opinion " that her kids see it, and no the "why should I need to do that for a G rated movie" argument does not work.

Society is ever changing. Us as adults know what is out there. ( Thats how we can shield our kids from it. ) We can see damn, or hell as words used all the time. Movies, radio, TV etc. Those words might of been taboo years ago, but times change. Heck the Beatles were labeled bad for your kids to listen to. If you look back they are very very tame to the music of today.

The nice thing is we are allowed to raise our children how we see fit, but there are always consequences to it. Having to view everything before we let our children see it, or playing a video game before our child plays it are some examples. It should not be the movie, video game, radio, and TV industries that tell us what words are ok. They can only suggest, and we as parents must then decide if it is ok. If you are that concerned about certain words than you need to take the steps to make sure you children are not exposed.

As for me I could care less if the words damn, or hell are in a G rated movie. They are not taboo words in my view at all. Will my children grow up to be drug addicts, and criminals because I don't care if they heard the word damn? I don't think so, but everyone is welcome to their opinion.


Well said. I would like to add that people like the OP have the right to their opinions and should complain if they feel inclined to do so. But given that, it's their responsibility to be the ultimate censor for their kids.

Ironically, I was watching a movie last night (from 1969) called "Marooned". It was rated "G". It was boring as all get out and no kid would have wanted to watch it. So this means that all "G" rated movies are not necessarily just for kids.

I checked out that website that MuggMann posted and read their blurb about Cars and the DaVinci Code (I've not seen either movie yet) and IMO, their assessment was beyond ridiculous. Prudish is an understatement.
 
cardaway said:
I can't help but to wonder when people don't allow their kids to "swear" but allow them to say hgeck, crap, darn, gosh, friggin... all the words that basically mean the same thing as their "swearing" counterparts and have no meaning beyond that. How they go on thinking it's any better is very interesting.

My thinking is that it is ALL just words, somewhere along the line someone decided that they are "bad" words and shouldn't be used. Many words that are commonly thought of as swear words or curse words do have legitimate non-shock-value meanings, for example, "hell." The words that just about everyone agrees are swear words, I don't use them and teach my son not to because it is not considered polite by most of society, and is often a bad reflection on the person saying them in the eyes of others. Basically,I guess it is just an image thing. I don't think that anyone has to refrain from expressing frustration or anger altogether, and so phrases like "holy crap" I find suitable for that purpose.

The ONLY word that I personally find it "wrong" to use, as opposed to just not being socially acceptable, is using "God" as a swear or expression, but there are plenty of people who don't find anything wrong with that, and that is their decision.
 
I think that the OP has every right to dislike whatever words she wishes. The question is whether she and others like herself have the right to expect filmmakers to never use those words in G-rated movies. If they're not swear words but just not "nice" should they be governed? Of course, people have wide beliefs on what denotes a swear word.
 
cstraub said:
According to the dictionary it is!

damn ( P ) Pronunciation Key (dm)
v. damned, damn·ing, damns
v. tr.
1.To pronounce an adverse judgment upon. See Synonyms at condemn.
2.To bring about the failure of; ruin.
3.To condemn as harmful, illegal, or immoral: a cleric who damned gambling and strong drink.
4.To condemn to everlasting punishment or a similar fate; doom.
5.To swear at.

v. intr.
To swear; curse.

This is using it as a verb. That's a big difference. "I damn you to hell," is physically cursing someone to a lifetime of damnation. If a Disney Villain said "I put a curse on you." It's the exact same thing. If you use it as an exclamation, that's a whole other story.

I'm not a very religious person, so that may be why I don't understand this.
 












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