Two 15 year olds must have adult sit with them???

[maxiesmom]

This post is so full of misinformation it should be considered trolling.

Walk in the door as a party of 7 and you will be seated as a party of 7..no matter what Disney tells you.

You will be seated as a party of 7, but it may be at seperate tables. We have had it happen.

 

[maxiesmom]

1. I don't have kids, but I know the kids and at almost 6/9 during the trip, I think they will be able to feed themselves.

2. I kind of doubt they would seat them out of sight. I would think that if they HAD to separate us they would probably seat us in two tables close to each other.

3. We had many family dinners where my cousins and siblings and I were seated away from our parents and we made out just fine.

1. Depending on what they order, yes. Butsome things would present more of a challenge. They may have some piece of meat they need help cutting or a new bottle of ketchup to be opened.

2. Out of the line of sight, probably not. But in the line of sight is not the same as being watched or helped at all time. Which leads to number 3

3. As one of the youngest of a large extended family, I am well aware of how the children's table operates. And I know we were no where near as well behaved as we would have been had an adult been at the table with us. Sit a group of kids together without an adult, and they act a little silly and sometimes get out of hand. A restuarant with other paying patrons is not the place for it, especially if there is an easy way to avoid it.

 

[Micca]

... We had many family dinners where my cousins and siblings and I were seated away from our parents and we made out just fine.

At our house this was known as "Thanksgiving." Incidentally, that's on a different day in Canada

 

[TDC Nala]

Just show up. Ask for tables near each other or together. Then just put the teens at their own table if they give the separate tables. They won't ask them for ID unless they order alcohol (which I assume they wont)

 

[clanmcculloch]

1. I don't have kids, but I know the kids and at almost 6/9 during the trip, I think they will be able to feed themselves.

2. I kind of doubt they would seat them out of sight. I would think that if they HAD to separate us they would probably seat us in two tables close to each other.

3. We had many family dinners where my cousins and siblings and I were seated away from our parents and we made out just fine.

1. Depending on what they order, yes. Butsome things would present more of a challenge. They may have some piece of meat they need help cutting or a new bottle of ketchup to be opened.

2. Out of the line of sight, probably not. But in the line of sight is not the same as being watched or helped at all time. Which leads to number 3

3. As one of the youngest of a large extended family, I am well aware of how the children's table operates. And I know we were no where near as well behaved as we would have been had an adult been at the table with us. Sit a group of kids together without an adult, and they act a little silly and sometimes get out of hand. A restuarant with other paying patrons is not the place for it, especially if there is an easy way to avoid it.

AugustDisney, you admit you don't have kids. You only know the little bits you see here and there. Knowing these kids from family functions is not the same as knowing how they'd be in all sorts of different situations.

Maxiesmom has listed only a few of the many, many possible reasons why a 5 year old may need a parent's help during a meal. Kids this young need somebody who is at least old enough to legally babysit them to be at the table with them in a public restaurant. We're not talking about the kids just being fine; we're talking about respect for your fellow patrons who should be subjected to the calling out between tables that will invariably happen. When these kids need help, they will be calling to their parents across tables occupied by other guests or else wandering back and forth between the tables.

Just curious, but is this experience with kids' tables that you speak of in a family home? VERY different than a public restaurant. In a family home, it doesn't matter if the kids spill, throw things, yell, etc. Well, it does matter but it doesn't affect people who aren't family. Family can be expected to put up with a lot from their loved ones. Complete strangers who are also paying for their own experience in a restaurant should not be subject to the typical kid behaviour that DOES happen when an adult isn't beside the child to correct said behaviour. Kids will be kids; when their parents aren't right there they WILL try to get away with behaviours they wouldn't otherwise try. We're not talking about older kids who are expected to be more responsible. A 5 year old will NOT accept the authority of an 8 year old and an 8 year old should not be in the position of being responsible for a 5 year old.

I see absolutely nothing wrong with 15 year olds being at their own table as the OP was discussing. A child not old enough to be in the park without an adult should not be at a table without an adult.

 

[chartle]

Walk in the door as a party of 7 and you will be seated as a party of 7..no matter what Disney tells you.

I'm assuming that you mean they will be seated together so I'm not sure how you can make such an absolute statement like this.

This is not the situation where you make an ADR for 7 and they give you the standard your party may be split up disclaimer.

This is two separate ADR's. What you are asking them to do is basically the same thing as when people ask if they can add 2 people to their ADR. Well it depends, the OP already knows there are no tables that can hold 7 for their time slot. So they can only hope that there was a cancellation or some other issue where a table for 7 opens up.

Also the OP needs to realize that one of the tables may open up earlier than the other. I'm sure the restaurant will try to do the best they can but they only have so many options that wouldn't impact other ADRs.

 

[AugustDisney]

Just curious, but is this experience with kids' tables that you speak of in a family home? VERY different than a public restaurant. In a family home, it doesn't matter if the kids spill, throw things, yell, etc. Well, it does matter but it doesn't affect people who aren't family. Family can be expected to put up with a lot from their loved ones. Complete strangers who are also paying for their own experience in a restaurant should not be subject to the typical kid behaviour that DOES happen when an adult isn't beside the child to correct said behaviour. Kids will be kids; when their parents aren't right there they WILL try to get away with behaviours they wouldn't otherwise try. We're not talking about older kids who are expected to be more responsible. A 5 year old will NOT accept the authority of an 8 year old and an 8 year old should not be in the position of being responsible for a 5 year old

I'm not oblivious to child behavior. I have a hard time thinking that Disney would 1. separate our group and 2. expect adult members of a group to sit apart from each other. I believe the actual chance of us being separated is very small, but in the situation that we are, this is the situation I came up with.

As children (and yes, at home AND in restaurants), my cousins/siblings and I were seated away from our parents at times. We were all expected to behave as we would if we sat with our parents, and I remember no incidents where our behavior was less than appropriate. I don't see how if adults are sitting at a table a table in sight of the children, that it could be an issue. Obviously someone would intervene if they saw/heard inappropriate behavior.

I can't remember wish restaurants said we may be seated apart, but the ones where we are going as a party of 7 are:
Rainforest Cafe (2pm lunch)
Cape May Cafe (9:05am breakfast)
Kona Cafe (9:35am breakfast)
Ohana (6:50pm dinner)
Boma (9am breakfast)
Tusker House (9:10am breakfast)
Olivias Cafe (9:15am breakfast)

I think two of these suggested that our party may be seated apart.

 

[maxiesmom]

I'm not oblivious to child behavior. I have a hard time thinking that Disney would 1. separate our group and 2. expect adult members of a group to sit apart from each other. I believe the actual chance of us being separated is very small, but in the situation that we are, this is the situation I came up with.

The odds of you actually being seperated into 2 groups is small. However, why would you be suprised Disney would expect an adult to sit with each group? Kids behave differently when they have an adult with them rather than an adult sometimes turning to look at them. And I can very well see how, with the idea of keeping any commotion under control, they would want an adult influence at each table.

Remember this is the same company who does not guarantee connecting rooms to families, and instead can ask that the adults split up and sleep apart.

They are giving you a heads up ahead of time. If you don't like their way of doing things, and don't want to risk being split up, now is the time to decide you want to change your ADRs.

 

[Swan4Me]

We were at the Mexican Restauant a few weeks ago
There was a table of 8 kids-8th graders-the chaperones were seated seversl tables away-very well behaved-they all had a school tshirt on. The I looked around and saw another table of kids from this group.

I wouldnt worry

 

[Becky2005]

T However, why would you be suprised Disney would expect an adult to sit with each group?

I think partly because 15 year olds can go to the parks without an adult even in the park with them.

 

[CathieArms]

I'm not oblivious to child behavior. I have a hard time thinking that Disney would 1. separate our group and 2. expect adult members of a group to sit apart from each other. I believe the actual chance of us being separated is very small, but in the situation that we are, this is the situation I came up with.

As children (and yes, at home AND in restaurants), my cousins/siblings and I were seated away from our parents at times. We were all expected to behave as we would if we sat with our parents, and I remember no incidents where our behavior was less than appropriate. I don't see how if adults are sitting at a table a table in sight of the children, that it could be an issue. Obviously someone would intervene if they saw/heard inappropriate behavior.

I can't remember wish restaurants said we may be seated apart, but the ones where we are going as a party of 7 are:
Rainforest Cafe (2pm lunch)
Cape May Cafe (9:05am breakfast)
Kona Cafe (9:35am breakfast)
Ohana (6:50pm dinner)
Boma (9am breakfast)
Tusker House (9:10am breakfast)
Olivias Cafe (9:15am breakfast)

I think two of these suggested that our party may be seated apart.

FWIW - I have a 6 year old and a 15 year old. My 6 year old is VERY well behaved in restaurants, but I don't believe I can forsee a situation where I'd allow him to sit at a table by himself with other 5-8 year olds, UNLESS the table were so close that it was almost like sitting together...where we could talk to the other table without speaking any louder than talking to the parties at my own table. Additionally, while my 15 year old is certainly capable of supervising him, I don't believe i would seat him at a table with her in that position. He doesn't always want to listen to his sister and it wouldn't be fun for her at all.

Truly, 5-8 year olds need to sit with an adult or - at the very least - and older "babysitter" whose authority they would respect.

Oh, and a side-note? We ate dinner at my niece's house a while back. She has 3 children under 8, her sister has 2 under 8, and the my son and my daughter. I was aghast that these "well-behaved" children at their own table within the same house actually ate like PIGS and threw food at each other. They didn't know my daughter (then 13) well enough to offer her the respect of authority, so they completely ignored her when she told them not to behave that way. She ended up having to get an adult and she refused to sit with them the remainder of the meal.

 

[BigTikiDaddy]

I am probably going to go way out of line here, but if two 15 yr olds are going to be charged adult prices, they should be treated as adults. Just saying...