Trip to WDW--In-laws won't take no for an answer!

brookmey

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I apologize if this is long, but some background info is necessary.

My in-laws are in interesting bunch and it's taken me 9 years to not let them get to me anymore. DH has 4 younger sisters, 3 of which are single moms, never married. For 2 of the sisters the dads are not in the picture and never have been. My MIL feels responsible for those grandkids because they don't have another family to dote on them and send them presents for b-days or Christmas.

DH's family is very codependent and have no boundaries or limits. They get involved in every aspect of each other's lives and accuse us of not caring about them because we don't do the same. We avoid their drama as much as possible. The 3 single moms expect the rest of the family to take care of their kids and look out for them because they don't have husbands. They especially expect that of DH and I because we're married, stable and have an income that allows us to save for extras, like trips to WDW. :)

In September we are going to WDW with my family to celebrate my parents' 40th anniversary. The trip was initiated by my parents because the only celebration they want is to spend Halloween at WDW with all 6 of their grandkids. DD7 and DS4 are staying with my parents and their cousins at SSR, while DH and I are staying at POFQ. DH and I will do some things with everyone else, but we have also scheduled some alone time and activities for just the 2 of us. Fine with my parents, they want the grandkids to themselves! DH and I are looking forward to this.

Since they found out, 2 of DH's sisters have been after us to bring their kids with us, a nephew age 14 and niece age 11. Out of the question and we've explained why. This isn't our family trip, it's one with my parents. SisIL see it differently, they say it's an opportunity for DH and I to spend some alone time with our niece and nephew who we hardly ever see b/c they're in MI and we're in TX and why wouldn't we want to do that? Don't we love our niece and nephew?

Last week, my MIL called, trying to convince DH to change his mind. She really tried to lay on the guilt, but DH didn't bite. In the past he would have, but he's gotten really good at setting boundaries with his family and not feeling bad or responsible for their reactions. But this was expected, as our nephew is the "golden child," can do no wrong and everyone is expected to and does bend over backwards for him. Niece's mom tried to arrange a trip in April, but didn't have the money, so she figured her daughter could go with us in September. Didn't even ask, just assumed. MIL wouldn't let it go, wouldn't take no for an answer, so DH told her he was done talking about it and basically hung up on her. She has emailed me, trying to appeal to my "mom side" and even tried to use my own words of why WDW's so great against me to plead a case for the niece and nephew. I answered her back with a polite and simple no.

Last night I talked to my mom and learned that my MIL called my mom to try to convince her! Up until this, I wasn't really phased by what my in-laws were doing, I half expected it. Daily emails, weekly phone calls, trying to put on the pressure and guilt. But now I'm infuriated that my MIL actually called my mom, trying to get niece and nephew included! My mom and I have worked hard to make this trip special and we're doing some extra things that we normally don't do. This trip is about my family and my parents, and it's very important to my parents to have this time with their grandchildren. My mom was upset and confused and did not appreciate being put on the spot like that. My mom was blunt and straightforward and said that this was a trip for them and that they decide who comes on it. That's my mom.

Now I'm really PO'd at all of them. This morning I got another email from the sisters and a phone call from my MIL. The sisters' emails now get sent directly to junk mail and I didn't answer the phone. DH is furious, too, because this time MIL went way too far. She went after my mom!

Sorry this is so long, I needed to vent in the worst way and my best friend is at work and can't talk!

I'm not sure what to do now since NOTHING is getting through to the in-laws. Do we just cut communication with them? We have a trip to MI (where they all are) this summer and plan to see the in-laws for 1 day of our 27 day trip. Do we cancel the plans to see them? I know it won't matter what we say ahead of time about this topic being off-limits, they'll bring it up in their passive-aggressive ways or use our kids to change our minds.

I'm just so mad because this Disney trip is about my parents and now my in-laws are trying to make it all about them! :mad:
 
Oh wow!!!!! I don't have an answer or you, but wanted you to know I read every word and I'm FURIOUS for you!!!! Your inlaws need some serious boundaries!!!!!! I'm so sorry you're going through this!!!!

Edited to correct type-os. Sorry...I was on my iPad.
 
I'm so sorry that your in-laws are causing you so many problems. It doesn't sound as though you are going to get through to them. Please don't let them spoil your trip to disneyworld.
 
My in-laws have behaved in similar (although not as extreme) ways of becoming totally deaf, dumb and blind to the concept of "no."

In one incident, we had the opposite scenario - they were trying to get our family of 3 to come along on a big multi-family rental in a state nearby to them, but a 9-10 hour drive for us. Our DD was 3 or 4 at the time, and a 9 hour drive was out of the question, not to mention several other factors I won't go into. We got the barrage of phone calls and even a 3-day visit from my MIL and FIL which quickly discovered was a visit purely dedicated to convincing us to come on the trip. Finally, after my MIL brought it up for the 4,000th time, I said quite calmly, "I've already answered that question. I'm not going to answer it again." I later told my husband to start doing the same. (I can't say that it worked because they got home and called everybody to tell them that we were coming after all! :confused3 And no, we didn't end up going.)

But I would still recommend telling everyone who's been saying "no" to start saying, "We've already answered that question" and refuse to discuss it any further.
 

Want me to "take care of them" for you?:rotfl:

But seriously, I understand. I hate when family members won't back off on things or get clingy or don't respect privacy. My grandmother, who I no longer speak, used to "measure" how tall I was by where my chest lined up to her's....in public...when I was 17. She'd make her way next to me and stand side by side and in her very loud voice "Why aren't you getting any taller? You're girls still come up to here on me!!!" And no matter how many times I asked her, begged her and screamed at her to stop, she never saw anything wrong with it. So not quite the same but I get where you're coming from.

My advice is basically to threaten them. Tell them straight out "We've discussed this, my answer and my family's answer is NO. If you continue to bring it up, we will no longer have anything to do with you. You've repeatedly refused to listen, and I don't know what else will get it through to you", and if you go this route, you have to back it up. No empty threats. Expect them to throw TONS of guilt on you.. "well the kids didn't do anything, you can't just ignore them!" or " but we already brought it up to the kids and they're so excited!" Don't be drawn in by it. Tell them "Well you can explain to the kids that no, they didn't do anything, it was you that made this happen" or "You had no right to tell the kids they were coming, so you can tell them they're not"

There's really no nice way to do this, but they're put you and your family in this position. You haven't done ANYTHING wrong so please don't think you have. I have never believed that if you marry the man you marry his family and you don't owe them anything. You're related, and yes you're family now but that doesn't mean you inherit all their problems, debts, and children. You have every right to go on vacation without even telling them about it. And if you don't owe them anything your parents sure as hell don't, and I think your MIL crossed a BIG line by calling your parents about this. Unfortunately, this seems like it will be a case of "a leopard can't change its spots" and even if you do cut contact with them, they may not ever understand why and they probably won't change. What may be the hardest part is how your husband feels about this, he may not want to cut contact completely or he may disagree with how to handle things.
 
If I were you I would tell them this trip is for your side of the family but you would be agreeable to plan a trip with your hubbys side of them family. Then let them think that you are going to go at some later time. At least this will give you some time for them to leave you alone for this trip.
Either that or cut all ties with them. We did this with Dh's family at a family wedding early last year, We have not heard form them and our life is much more pleasant this way.
Since it's dh's family let him decide which way to go.
 
Kudos to your mom for not caving into the pressure. Have the in-laws started pressuring your kids yet? That will be difficult for the kids if/when they see their rellies in MI this summer. Have you made specific plans for the visit? If you do meet up with them, I would make sure you out-law any one-on-one time with your kids and the in-lawz so you'll know if there's any pressure and/or passive-aggressive nonsense, and leave immediately.

They have to know you mean what you say. If the in-laws wormed their way into your vacation, what will they try next?
 
Thank you for the suggestions. There is absolutely no way we are going to give in on this. DH wants to cancel plans with his family in MI, but our kids are so looking forward to seeing his family, I'm struggling with that. Besides, my FIL is not involved in this at all and I don't want to punish him because the women are all crazy. But I do think the idea of no one-on-one time with MIL and SIL is a good one. They're still going to make their comments, but we can either interrupt and change the subject or leave. We've also decided to only spend a few hours with them instead of a all day.
 
First let me say that I am so sorry for you and your DH. Your in-laws are incredibly aggressive and confrontational. What brats they are (to put it mildly) - good for your mom and DH for holding fast to the purpose of YOUR family trip, so YOUR parents can celebrate with THEIR family. I think that you already know in your heart that even if you were to "cave in" and take your niece and nephew along, your DH's family will feel triumphant over you and will NEVER appreciate the gesture. It doesn't sound like gratitude is in their emotional spectrum.

You have no reason to feel guilty at all. The choices that your in-laws have made are just that - THEIR choices. If they want their kids to experience Disney, it is up to them to create that in their lives. If they cannot afford it, they can save for it, even if it does take years. Now if YOU can tolerate it, I agree with another poster. Offer to help them plan a special trip for your DH's family and go (or not) along with them ...even if they have to save up for 2 or 3 years to be able to treat their kids to a Disney trip. Stick to your guns and have the best trip ever!:thumbsup2
 
I just can't agree with PPs on planning a trip with DH's side of the family. If they're like this when they're just trying to get the niece and nephew to go, can you imagine what they'd be like trying to coordinate a trip with them?
 
No No No. Stick to your guns, go on this vacation with your family, and enjoy it. I cannot believe someone else would expect you to take and pay for their children. I am so sorry to hear this, because in the end it could really dampen the vacation you are taking for such a happy occasion.

Please stand by your convictions, and enjoy this trip with your family. If the roles were reversed, would your MIL understand (of course right now she would say yes).

I married into a family that is kind, but they do try to get into each others business, and it drives me crazy! We are going in 2012, and part of DH's family is already saving and trying to come with us on our trip. Good luck finding out what resort I'm staying at!! (I may have to change my signature, but they don't know these boards exist).
 
I just can't agree with PPs on planning a trip with DH's side of the family. If they're like this when they're just trying to get the niece and nephew to go, can you imagine what they'd be like trying to coordinate a trip with them?

They would be totally incapable of saving the money to go, so if I knew it would appease them and get them off our backs now, I'd do it knowing it will not ever happen. :rotfl:
But I don't think they'd go for that because they only look at the here and now. They don't understand why DH and I would like some alone time (they figured niece and nephew would stay with us) and if they were going on a trip like this they would include our kids. They see it as 2 separate vacations. The kids with my parents, DH and I together. Can't reason with people who take everything personally.
 
All I can say is WOW..... I can't believe your mil has the @@@ls that big as to call your mother and try to get her to take the kids.... WOW...
If you ever give in to them, you can forget ever trying to say no to these people again. Sending you prayers so you can stay strong against such evil women....lol. I don't blame you on wanting to spend as little time with them as possible. I wouldn't answer their phone calls, if they leave a message, delete it without listening. All email would go unread and deleted. Maybe after a few weeks or months of no contact they will get the hint.
Good luck, your going to need it to battle these women....
 
I really feel for your situation- I have an interesting in-law side of the family as well. Just remember "No" can be a complete sentence.
 
Are you sure they would take your kids though? Or is that just another guilt laden bargaining chip? And just because they would take your kids (....or so they say :lmao:) doesn't make them better people or make you responsible for taking theirs.
 
If they can't afford to take their own kids on vacation, they certainly can't afford to take any cousins. just sayin.
 
How about this as an answer:

"We have plans to be at WDW from {date} to {date}. We have our reservations and our dining reservations. If you want to come to Disney World at the same time we cannot stop you. We might even meet you in the parks once in a while. However, we have no intention to change any of our plans or reservations."

Do not give any specifics, such as what Resorts, what days for which Parks, and definitely not date/time/location for dining reservations.

Also, I would suggest calling Walt Disney Travel and ask if they can annotate your reservations, especially the dining reservations, to not talk to anyone who claims to be you unless they can provide the specific reservation confirmation number.
 
Do not give any specifics, such as what Resorts, what days for which Parks, and definitely not date/time/location for dining reservations.

Also, I would suggest calling Walt Disney Travel and ask if they can annotate your reservations, especially the dining reservations, to not talk to anyone who claims to be you unless they can provide the specific reservation confirmation number.

I totally agree with this comment...especially the part about talking to WDW about what is needed to allow changes to your ressies. Your MIL might be devious enough to make a few changes: Like add 2 more persons to you and DH’s room. She has made it more than obvious that she does not or will not take a hint so a little protection might not hurt. Also don’t be surprised if a certain niece and nephew were to make a “surprise” visit about the time you and your family leave for the trip. Your obviously not going to get boundaries from your In-laws so you going to have to go for self-preservation and self-protection. I recommend a moat…:rotfl:

You stated that FIL was not involved in this…you might want to talk to him about this and see if he might can help stop it on that end. Maybe he can help stop to onslaught you and DH might be in for on your visit.
 















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