Diz, I've been in a SS van where I was the first on board, and then they spent over an hour going up and down Harbor and Katella, picking up other scheduled riders. Last stop on the way out was at my hotel again, and only then we got on our way. If I had fudged the times I would have been a serious stressball. I will say that I was going to LAX, so there was much more potential for trouble along the way, but I *hate* stress while traveling, and I was happy to be on that van with *plenty* of time (though if I'd known they were going to be stopping at hojo again I might have preferred to get on then).