Transgenders and bathrooms....

[TLSnell1981]

And what if the man who was born physically female has a beard and muscles and a crew cut. How comfortable do you think women would be if he waltzed into their bathroom? How safe do you think he would be?

Believe it or not, appearance isn't as relevant, as you think.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Believe it or not, appearance isn't as relevant, as you think.

What do you mean? If "you" do not want a man in the women's bathroom, how else are you going to decide if they are a man or a woman except by their appearance?

Could you explain yourself, please?

 

[TLSnell1981]

What do you mean? If "you" do not want a man in the women's bathroom, how else are you going to decide if they are a man or a woman except by their appearance?

Could you explain yourself, please?

I think, I made myself quite clear several posts back

 

[NHdisneylover]

Use the bathroom that your biological plumbing calls for. If you get the biological plumbing changed than you can use the bathroom that meets your plumbing requirements no matter what your birth certificate says. I don't care if the user is uncomfortable, think about how the other patron's comfort level is too.

but your biological plumbing does not require one particular bathroom----anyone can use a toilet and both bathrooms will have them.
it is not like some people HAVE to use a urinal (if they did every home would have one)

 

[NHdisneylover]

I think, I made myself quite clear several posts back

can you quote that post? I am not finding it and actually want to understand what you are saying. Thanks

 

[SirDuff]

especially in a bar!

I've owned bars. Nope, I won't use the men's bathroom GROSS! They even have their own potty at home.

Believe it or not, appearance isn't as relevant, as you think.

I think, I made myself quite clear several posts back

Here's what you've said in this thread. Can you point out the quote that makes your comment clear?

 

[TLSnell1981]

Here's what you've said in this thread. Can you point out the quote that makes your comment clear?

Oh my goodness. Please stop trying to make my comment into something, that it's not. It's simple. I don't care what a person looks like. Doesn't bother me in the least.

 

[tzolkin]

Oh my goodness. Please stop trying to make my comment into something, that it's not. It's simple. I don't care what a person looks like. Doesn't bother me in the least.

No one is trying to make it into anything. It just wasn't clear and no one seems to understand what you meant. Just asking for clarification.

 

[SirDuff]

Oh my goodness. Please stop trying to make my comment into something, that it's not. It's simple. I don't care what a person looks like. Doesn't bother me in the least.

You're the one who made it into something with your silly "I've already explained it", instead of just explaining it - especially when you had done no such thing. Given that three people didn't understand the comment, perhaps you might consider that your delivery didn't quite come across as you meant it.

I went to your other posts looking for the explanation (I remembered that someone (Vulcan Girl I think and others) made comments about people who do not "pass" for their gender (birth or other) and I wasn't sure if that was what you were referring to). And then realised that there was no previous explanation.

 

[sunshinehighway]

Oh my goodness. Please stop trying to make my comment into something, that it's not. It's simple. I don't care what a person looks like. Doesn't bother me in the least.

Oh nobody was trying to make your comment into something it wasn't. You haven't really said anything other than men's bathrooms are gross but you gave the impression you said more. It was confusing.
Why make vague posts and then get upset when people don't understand them?

 

[IndyRnRfan]

Believe it or not, appearance isn't as relevant, as you think.

You are correct and that has been scientifically proven. Doesn't matter what you take off, add, replace, etc... you are what you were born as.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Oh my goodness. Please stop trying to make my comment into something, that it's not. It's simple. I don't care what a person looks like. Doesn't bother me in the least.

Ok, good. We have that in common. I just don't understand what that has to do with transgenders and bathrooms.

 

[RedAngie]

but your biological plumbing does not require one particular bathroom----anyone can use a toilet and both bathrooms will have them.
it is not like some people HAVE to use a urinal (if they did every home would have one)

True, no one HAS to use a urinal, but I'll bet there are plenty of men who wish their homes had one.

When I remodeled my parents' home to put on the market, DH asked the contractor if anyone ever requested a urinal in a house. She replied that she'd installed about half a dozen over the years.

 

[littleblackegg]

I peep at stuff in the 'loo. I love overhearing passive-aggressive conversations (that I hear because I am eavesdropping). I giggle with disgusted glee when ladies put their handbags on the floor or don't wash their hands. I love looking at bad, poorly done, and/or prison tattoos. If you try hard enough, you can be a voyeur just about anywhere.

 

[NHdisneylover]

True, no one HAS to use a urinal, but I'll bet there are plenty of men who wish their homes had one.

When I remodeled my parents' home to put on the market, DH asked the contractor if anyone ever requested a urinal in a house. She replied that she'd installed about half a dozen over the years.

true--if there had been space to make it work without expanding the size of the bathroom there'd be one going into our new condo for DH and DS. And they are better for the environment, as they use less water.
But since no one NEEDS to use one, it doesn't make sense to say that people with a ***** need to only use restrooms which offer one,

 

[bcla]

true--if there had been space to make it work without expanding the size of the bathroom there'd be one going into our new condo for DH and DS. And they are better for the environment, as they use less water.
But since no one NEEDS to use one, it doesn't make sense to say that people with a ***** need to only use restrooms which offer one,

There have been attempts to make female urinals. Without getting graphic, there are handheld sanitary devices designed to aid in urination where toilets aren't available.

As for traditional urinals, there are actual no-flush versions. They use a special cartridge. They're cleaned with water, and they work pretty well. The odd thing is that they won't smell if cleaned daily. Fresh urine generally has no odor. It has to combine with the minerals in tap water for any noticeable odor.

 

[Julie's Haircut]

That's not a new rule, that's been around for decades. And it isn't about privacy, it's about minimizing splash back on your neighbor - and only if there are enough open urinals to accommodate leaving a buffer.

If there's a wall of 8 urinals and one guy peeing, you wouldn't go up to the one right next to him to pee.

No, I'm not talking about that. It's always been the rule that if you CAN leave a space between you and the other guys, you do. What I was referring to was some new rule among a certain breed of men that it's NEVER OK to use a urinal next to one already in use. Not at halftime during a football game, not if there are only two urinals, NEVER. Not under ANY circumstances. Even at the urinals that have the divider walls that many seem to have these days. You're supposed to wait or use a stall.

There have been a few articles on the internet over the past few years explaining this etiquette. A few years ago two guys appeared on some talk show to discuss it. Roseanne Barr was also on the talk show. She listened until she couldn't stand it anymore, then finally blurted out a perfect response. Something like "Some men are such [cats]. Does Mommy still wipe you?"

True, no one HAS to use a urinal, but I'll bet there are plenty of men who wish their homes had one.

When I remodeled my parents' home to put on the market, DH asked the contractor if anyone ever requested a urinal in a house. She replied that she'd installed about half a dozen over the years.

I'd love a urinal in my house, maybe even a trough.

Last night DW and I went to a bar in downtown Orlando, called Sideshow. Lots of freaky decor. The men's room has a stainless steel trough. Three guys could comfortably pee at once, four if you wanted to get cozy. If I had known someone would post photos from a football stadium, I'd have taken a picture.

I really liked the men's room decor at the abandoned, short-lived Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach.

 

[NHdisneylover]

There have been attempts to make female urinals. Without getting graphic, there are handheld sanitary devices designed to aid in urination where toilets aren't available.

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lol yep--I am well aware of such devices---they come in handy for roadside stops in parts of France and Italy where toilet seats are not commonly available. So, yet again, more reasons why the person's anatomy really doesn't NEED any certain restroom.

 

[bcla]

lol yep--I am well aware of such devices---they come in handy for roadside stops in parts of France and Italy where toilet seats are not commonly available. So, yet again, more reasons why the person's anatomy really doesn't NEED any certain restroom.

I won't show a picture (anyone is welcome to look it up), but the ones I saw were essentially funnels. The best name I found was "GoGirl".

I've heard some women requesting better technology to produce a women's urinal for environmental reasons. That being said, there are such things as dual-flush toilets.

 

[mnrose]

lol yep--I am well aware of such devices---they come in handy for roadside stops in parts of France and Italy where toilet seats are not commonly available. So, yet again, more reasons why the person's anatomy really doesn't NEED any certain restroom.

I have one....and have had one for years. Called a Freshette. I got it for hiking in Norway, above the tree line. You simply could not use a tree if there are no trees. It was a good way to be reasonably discrete and still get the job done. Works great.