Transferring VHS to DVD

Thank you so very much, we do have a combo please understand I am not so good at these things, what do I need to buy ? I've seen CDs in the stores in a pack..what exactly am I looking for...talk to me like I am a 4 y/o I won't be offended ;)

Thanks for asking this question. I need to find out how to do it, too, and don't understand all the stuff that is out there.
 
about VHS to DVD and it has nothing to do with copyrights (which is why I clicked opened this thread to begin with) I have a LOT of VHS tapes from when my kids were little and in their teens (HS events etc) they're not going to last forever (DDs are in their 30s) the tapes still work but how can I get them to DVD...what would I need and would it come with instructions....these are family memories



http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276214772&sr=8-1


got this awhile back to preserve home videos myself.... connects your vcr directly to a laptop/desktop computer (usb connection), and lets you convert the vhs tape to an mp4 format.... assuming you have a dvd burner, you can then burn your own dvds from it, and also have the files saved on your computer hard drive for an extra backup.

and, of course, once you've saved them onto the pc, you can use video editing software to cut/splice/etc the movies as needed (in case you have multiple years and such on the same tape, and want to save them separately).
 
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-...1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1276214772&sr=8-1


got this awhile back to preserve home videos myself.... connects your vcr directly to a laptop/desktop computer (usb connection), and lets you convert the vhs tape to an mp4 format.... assuming you have a dvd burner, you can then burn your own dvds from it, and also have the files saved on your computer hard drive for an extra backup.

and, of course, once you've saved them onto the pc, you can use video editing software to cut/splice/etc the movies as needed (in case you have multiple years and such on the same tape, and want to save them separately).

and yet another helpful Disser to the rescue ! Thank you so much ! I printed out your directions too ($40 for that isn't bad at all :goodvibes) and will have to make some decisions..whew !
 
Thanks for the info! I have a whole box full of tapes I need to transfer. I kept thinking I have to go through the tapes to find the areas I want saved, but now I think I'll just the the whole tape, so at least they are in DVD format and not degrading by the day. I can always hunt down the areas sometime in the future, off the EDVD copy, and clip & edit the parts onto new DVDs later. At least the memories would be preserved this way.
 
As for other tapes, copyright laws allow people to make personal copies of movies they already own for archiving. As long as a person is not selling or sharing the copies, there is nothing anyone can or will do.
That is incorrect. The only law like that grants that right only to libraries.

Please, folks, do not advocate violating copyright in the forum. We do not have the right to make personal copies of commercial movies on VHS tapes.
 
That is incorrect. The only law like that grants that right only to libraries.

Please, folks, do not advocate violating copyright in the forum. We do not have the right to make personal copies of commercial movies on VHS tapes.

Okay I think we got that :) FWIW the people here have helped ME tremendously with the information about PERSONAL VHS/DVD. I just got off the phone with one of my DD telling her that we will be able to do this and the tears and relief is PRICELESS. An innocent question from the OP turned into a GREAT thing. Please let us relish the joy in that Okay ??

Ruthie
 
That is incorrect. The only law like that grants that right only to libraries.

I believe the poster is referring to the section of copyright law related to the doctrine of "fair use" and that law applies to everyone, not just libraries.
The problem is that the law on "fair use" is extremely vague and doesn't specifically say anything about making personal copies.

So it's all based on court rulings and interpretation of those rulings. In the past, some judges have voiced the opinion that home copying for personal use is a "fair use". But I don't think it's a completely settled issue.

The DMCA makes it unlawful for anyone to circumvent copy protection. So if the VHS tapes have MacroVision, then that copying those could be considered a violation. But the section of code that prohibits circumventing copy protection, also says that nothing in there can limit "fair use". So again, we're back to having an incomplete, vague definition of fair use.

I'm not a lawyer, so can't really comment any further.
 
I believe I'm right in saying that every owner of a particular piece of media is entitled to make one backup of it. Not illegal at all.

Of course, that might just be the UK. I'm not sure.



Rich::
 
I believe the poster is referring to the section of copyright law related to the doctrine of "fair use" and that law applies to everyone, not just libraries.
The problem is that the law on "fair use" is extremely vague and doesn't specifically say anything about making personal copies.

So it's all based on court rulings and interpretation of those rulings. In the past, some judges have voiced the opinion that home copying for personal use is a "fair use". But I don't think it's a completely settled issue.

The DMCA makes it unlawful for anyone to circumvent copy protection. So if the VHS tapes have MacroVision, then that copying those could be considered a violation. But the section of code that prohibits circumventing copy protection, also says that nothing in there can limit "fair use". So again, we're back to having an incomplete, vague definition of fair use.

I'm not a lawyer, so can't really comment any further.

Precisely. Also, as stated, as long as your not selling your copies, uploading to a file sharing program or even giving them away and keeping them for your own backup, I don't think anyone's going to come knocking at your door to arrest you for copyright infringment.
My best friend's husband is even copying all their movies to a hard drive so they can keep those titles safe. With 3 kids and a couple dogs, it's a good idea.

The DMCA includes music, whether bought as a download or bought as a cd. If you load any of it to your Ipod or other mp3 player, you're making a copy of it somewhere. If you burn downloads to a disc, your making a backup copy. There's nothing wrong with it and the industry even expects it.

I would never, ever be ok with people selling illegal copies. I have, in fact, reported sellers for doing just that on ebay and other places.

Besides, I just might qualify as a library with over 3000 movies that I do sometimes loan out to family and friends for free. ;)
 
Setting aside the legal and logistical issues, copying a commercially released tape to a DVD will not result in DVD quality audio/video, it will only look as good as the old VHS tape. Depending on the quality of your television, you could be pretty disappointed with the results In the case of your home movies that's no big deal because you probably want the convenience of a DVD. Just thought I'd point that out because OP said they weren't good with this stuff.:)
 
I've always understood it to be illegal. I haven't kept up with it in a while but just googling "is it's legal for consumers to make backup copies of legally purchased DVDs for personal use." I came up with this site:

http://www.ifunia.com/articles/personal-use-dvd-ripping-copying-legal-or-illegal.html

In United States, it is legal for an individual in the United States to make a copy of media he/she owns for his/her own personal use. Fair Use grants you the right to make a backup copy of your media for your own personal use. But in the case where media contents are protected using some effective copy protection scheme, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act makes it illegal to circumvent that copy protection scheme. This law makes it illegal to rip most commercial DVDs as they are typically protected by CSS encryption.


Another thing to think of when transferring home videos to your pc is the amount of space and time it will take.
 
Another thing to think of when transferring home videos to your pc is the amount of space and time it will take.

I initially was going to use my pc to transfer my old vhs home movies. I started by trying one using Roxio software but the video capture file was huge. This was eating up so much of my hard drive that I decided to go another route and have just bought a Panasonic DMR-EZ48V. This will let me put the VHS tape in one side and a blank DVD in the other and just hit copy. I may not get to edit the movies but this sounds so much easier.
 
I believe the poster is referring to the section of copyright law related to the doctrine of "fair use" and that law applies to everyone, not just libraries.
The copyright law explicitly allows libraries. The Fair Use Doctrine only permits partial use, and only for review and scholarly purposes, not copying of an entire work, without placing it in the context of a larger work of your own, which you then publish.
 
I believe I'm right in saying that every owner of a particular piece of media is entitled to make one backup of it. Not illegal at all. Of course, that might just be the UK. I'm not sure.
That is not legal in the United States. There is no law in the United States that allows individuals to make backup copies of music or video. There is a law in the United States that allows individuals to make backup copies of computer programs - that is all.
 
Precisely. Also, as stated, as long as your not selling your copies, uploading to a file sharing program or even giving them away and keeping them for your own backup, I don't think anyone's going to come knocking at your door to arrest you for copyright infringment.
That's probably true, which is why I implore people to think beyond themselves and their own situation and do what's right: Don't advocate violating copyright, no matter the reason, no matter the equivocation, no matter the rationalization. The law relies on your voluntarily compliance. If we develop further into a lawless, self-indulgent population, then that will prompt content owners only to lock things down even more tightly, causing no end of new inconveniences for everyone, caused solely by the actions of those few who disrespect the law.

BTW, the law that permits copying by libraries outline certification criteria for libraries.
 
I've always understood it to be illegal. I haven't kept up with it in a while but just googling "is it's legal for consumers to make backup copies of legally purchased DVDs for personal use." I came up with this site:
The linked site is advocating violation of the law. The information regarding copyright law on that site is erroneous. Note the legal disclosure link at the bottom of the page disclaims all responsibility for erroneous information.
 
The copyright law explicitly allows libraries. The Fair Use Doctrine only permits partial use, and only for review and scholarly purposes, not copying of an entire work, without placing it in the context of a larger work of your own, which you then publish.

You are correct about the special exemptions that are made for libraries.

But your statement on fair use is a bit simplistic. The law permits "fair use", then goes on to mention several things that should be considered when determining what a "fair use" is. It does not explicitly define what is legal and what is illegal. That has been left up to the courts to decide and there have been a number of differing court opinions about what constitutes "fair use".

In Sony vs Universal Studios, the courts ruled that recording an entire broadcast TV show for personal use and viewing at a later time did qualify as "fair use". This is essentially, the "copying of an entire work, without placing it in the context of a larger work of your own". And it's not for any scholarly purposes.

One of the factors that is to be considered when determining whether a use is fair or not, is the effect that the use has on the work's value. Copying a VHS tape or DVD for personal use, has basically no effect on a work's value.

For anyone interested, there is some good information here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

"The fourth factor measures the effect that the allegedly infringing use has had on the copyright owner's ability to exploit his or her original work. The court not only investigates whether the defendant's specific use of the work has significantly harmed the copyright owner's market, but also whether such uses in general, if widespread, would harm the potential market of the original. The burden of proof here rests on the defendant for commercial uses, but on the copyright owner for noncommercial uses. See Sony Corp. v. Universal City Studios,[14] where the copyright owner, Universal, failed to provide any empirical evidence that the use of Betamax had either reduced their viewership or negatively impacted their business. In the aforementioned Nation case regarding President Ford's memoirs, the Supreme Court labeled this factor "the single most important element of fair use" and it has indeed enjoyed some level of primacy in fair use analyses ever since. Yet the Supreme Court's more recent announcement in Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, Inc.[15] that "all [four factors] are to be explored, and the results weighed together, in light of the purposes of copyright" has helped modulate this emphasis in interpretation."
 
If anyone wants to look at the actual law:

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html

Section 107 talks about fair use
Section 108 is about the library exclusions Bicker was mentioning.

Basically, they say:
Fair use is not a copyright violation.
We aren't going to tell you everything that qualifies as fair use, but here are a few things that should be considered when making that decision.

Everything else is left up to the courts to decide.
 
I have a wonderful LG VCR/VHS to DVD transfer system.
My father died in 1990 and my mother in 2000.
All that I had on tape has been transferred to DVD.
My DHs mother died in 1992 and all our tapes of her our now transferred safely.:hug::hug:

One of my best friends is a lawyer with her own firm in Chicago. She told me that if the FBI ever kicks my door in and arrests me for copying tapes to DVD she will represent me "pro bono".:rotfl:

No copyrights have been violated.:rolleyes1
 
You are correct about the special exemptions that are made for libraries.

But your statement on fair use is a bit simplistic. The law permits "fair use", then goes on to mention several things that should be considered when determining what a "fair use" is. It does not explicitly define what is legal and what is illegal. That has been left up to the courts to decide and there have been a number of differing court opinions about what constitutes "fair use".

In Sony vs Universal Studios, the courts ruled that ...
Note that that is the only court decision that has ever found that... and note how carefully proponents of access are very careful to avoid opening the door to have that case looked at again by the courts. The reason is that that case would almost surely be overturned, if the courts were given a chance. I do encourage folks to research the Fair Use issue. The more you research, the more you realize that that corruption of the law has not be supported by any previous nor subsequent court decisions.

Also note that that even legitimate Fair Use is not a defense for breaking copy protection. If something is copy protected, then copies are not permitted, no matter what. Even newspapers and television news services would have to get unprotected copies, or to make second-generation copies (point a video camera at a television while playing back the original) - they would not be allowed to break the copy protection, even though it is easy to do.
 












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