Toy Story land projected opening date?

[huey578]

Any info as to when it might open?

 

[IrishNYC]

2018. Supposedly.

 

[rteetz]

Summer 2018 as of right now.

 

[huey578]

Summer 2018 as of right now.

Awesome, we have an October 2018 trip planned

 

[rteetz]

Awesome, we have an October 2018 trip planned

Summer is a rumored date so don't be surprised if that changes. Disney hasn't announced anything official yet.

 

[huey578]

Summer is a rumored date so don't be surprised if that changes. Disney hasn't announced anything official yet.

True... but at least Avatar land will be opened when we visit

 

[Accident]

Since they said shanghai was getting a copy being rushed to open in 2018, i'm not so sure we're looking at 2018 anymore (or ever were). I think they could get it opened sooner but I suspect they are targetting 2019 with the movie release.

 

[Sweettears]

Since they said shanghai was getting a copy being rushed to open in 2018, i'm not so sure we're looking at 2018 anymore (or ever were). I think they could get it opened sooner but I suspect they are targetting 2019 with the movie release.

It doesn't make sense to me to spend as much as they have, including the hype, in AK to rush a presumably inferior version in Shanghai prior to opening. It might taint the marketing if it doesn't meet expectations.

 

[rteetz]

Since they said shanghai was getting a copy being rushed to open in 2018, i'm not so sure we're looking at 2018 anymore (or ever were). I think they could get it opened sooner but I suspect they are targetting 2019 with the movie release.

Not correct. Shanghai's was under construction before they announced it. We are looking at 2018. 2019 for Star Wars.

 

[Sweettears]

Ignore my statement. I saw a reference to Avatar and was off track.

 

[Accident]

Not correct. Shanghai's was under construction before they announced it. We are looking at 2018. 2019 for Star Wars.

Shanghai was never going to get toy story land this soon. Yes it was in the original plans but not to be built this early. I get your very what did I hear or learn but I think you need to take a step back and think about the big picture here. This is not the disney of 3 years ago. I think some of this logic doesn't apply anymore and I hope I'm wrong and your absolutely correct. At this time I'm not sure.

I actually have more to say but I am going to open up a thread on an interesting article that came out yesterday so I'll do that later tonight when I have time to gather my thoughts more.. I think this isn't the disney we knew pre-frozen for how they are looking at what to do or when to finish it in the parks anymore. again I hope your right because what I'm seeing says to me things will take longer and disney is too slow already.

 

[rteetz]

Shanghai was never going to get toy story land this soon. Yes it was in the original plans but not to be built this early. I get your very what did I hear or learn but I think you need to take a step back and think about the big picture here. This is not the disney of 3 years ago. I think some of this logic doesn't apply anymore and I hope I'm wrong and your absolutely correct. At this time I'm not sure.

I actually have more to say but I am going to open up a thread on an interesting article that came out yesterday so I'll do that later tonight when I have time to gather my thoughts more.. I think this isn't the disney we knew pre-frozen for how they are looking at what to do or when to finish it in the parks anymore. again I hope your right because what I'm seeing says to me things will take longer and disney is too slow already.

Yes it was, it was originally supposed to open with the park. You can't say it wasn't supposed to be built this early.

I don't get why you think toy story would be pushed back to 2019 at DHS. That doesn't make any sense right now.

 

[Accident]

I don't get why you think toy story would be pushed back to 2019 at DHS. That doesn't make any sense right now.

Christine McCarthy (cfo disney) spoke at Citi Internet, Media & Telecommunications Conference on thursday and it really changed my view in what disney. from a spending money standpoint, is doing in the theme parks. The short is that cars equalized the 2 anaheim parks where it made it more of a 50/50 split attendance wise that has remained very close instead of california adventure getting 25% or less of the visitors. She also said they are viewing pandora as the same thing that will help equalize out animal kingdom in the same staying power way.

Looking at the other announcements, star wars I think is the equalizer for hollywood and the transformation kick off to redo that park to no longer be backstage themed.. I have a feeling that toy story the movie slipping in it's release date might have been a project we wouldn't have heard about yet because it could have been hidden as possibly part of the star wars construction giving them more news in future years to excite us during long term construction. I think they are going to let construction slow down (where it makes sense to allow for star wars to stay on track) but still open in time for people to get excited abotu the movie and want to visit and piggy back on movie marketing which they can do for cheaper and get people to think about the movie and visiting WDW at the same time..

So whatever is about to happen at epcot I think is to both keep future world busy the full day, get more room for food festivals to be larger (aka less crowded at the same time) and they need something to equalize more families from all crowding MK the most. MK, in my opinion and I hate this, having no night parade has spread out the crowd so there is no dead spots at night and the fireworks before projection has more people leaving the park earlier allowing an earlier park close and saving operating costs. The holiday week we really saw what this did where rides were horrible time wise, but the crowd stayed spread out so it didn't feel as crowded as past years.

Toy story could help this but it's not going to have the new fan draw that star wars will add while equalizing the crowd between parks. If I was signing the checks, star wars is more important than toy story for the new fan draw but toy story timed to be ready for you to experience while the movie has you excited is a way to slow down spending for a year to keep profits up but still ride the movie wave. It's only recently that the release date slipped and why I think the big picture might have toy story land slowing down. They aren't going to slow it down in certain areas, it's cheaper to get the crane work done together and the overlapping work force doing 2 lands, but when it comes to finishing touches that's when I think we'll see the radical change in schedule happen to push its opening a year. But if the goal is wall street happy and spread out spending with shanghai pulling the division down then spending more money but delaying when you write those checks and pandora brings in more bacon will help that. they also need time to revamp the parking lot situation, toy + stars close to each other is going to make a traffic nightmare and parking is going to a real problem.

It's all confusing but I think frozen showing that a movie will bring in park attendance, cars spreading out the crowd so you can fit more without expanding too much where you don't want to put the money if you can avoid that. Disney is really looking at how they change and add things to the parks is different than in the past which is why I think what we know as classic disney timelines is wrong now... They are using their old formula of events and using the AP holders to get attendance and spending to stay up is how they are going to hold us off. This weekends food festival with arts is brilliant. Somethign new, something different every week and on the days the locals can pack the place and want to spend money...

edit: look at springs, that place is bustling with people looking to dine and spend money. brilliant work to spread out the crowd, bring more local dining and really up the revenue in ways I didnt' see coming. I thought i was for an international crowd to not go off property to shop and it's equally about getting the locals to come in and spend money and time just in different ways (food vs merch).

 

[rteetz]

Christine McCarthy (cfo disney) spoke at Citi Internet, Media & Telecommunications Conference on thursday and it really changed my view in what disney. from a spending money standpoint, is doing in the theme parks. The short is that cars equalized the 2 anaheim parks where it made it more of a 50/50 split attendance wise that has remained very close instead of california adventure getting 25% or less of the visitors. She also said they are viewing pandora as the same thing that will help equalize out animal kingdom in the same staying power way.

Looking at the other announcements, star wars I think is the equalizer for hollywood and the transformation kick off to redo that park to no longer be backstage themed.. I have a feeling that toy story the movie slipping in it's release date might have been a project we wouldn't have heard about yet because it could have been hidden as possibly part of the star wars construction giving them more news in future years to excite us during long term construction. I think they are going to let construction slow down (where it makes sense to allow for star wars to stay on track) but still open in time for people to get excited abotu the movie and want to visit and piggy back on movie marketing which they can do for cheaper and get people to think about the movie and visiting WDW at the same time..

So whatever is about to happen at epcot I think is to both keep future world busy the full day, get more room for food festivals to be larger (aka less crowded at the same time) and they need something to equalize more families from all crowding MK the most. MK, in my opinion and I hate this, having no night parade has spread out the crowd so there is no dead spots at night and the fireworks before projection has more people leaving the park earlier allowing an earlier park close and saving operating costs. The holiday week we really saw what this did where rides were horrible time wise, but the crowd stayed spread out so it didn't feel as crowded as past years.

Toy story could help this but it's not going to have the new fan draw that star wars will add while equalizing the crowd between parks. If I was signing the checks, star wars is more important than toy story for the new fan draw but toy story timed to be ready for you to experience while the movie has you excited is a way to slow down spending for a year to keep profits up but still ride the movie wave. It's only recently that the release date slipped and why I think the big picture might have toy story land slowing down. They aren't going to slow it down in certain areas, it's cheaper to get the crane work done together and the overlapping work force doing 2 lands, but when it comes to finishing touches that's when I think we'll see the radical change in schedule happen to push its opening a year. But if the goal is wall street happy and spread out spending with shanghai pulling the division down then spending more money but delaying when you write those checks and pandora brings in more bacon will help that. they also need time to revamp the parking lot situation, toy + stars close to each other is going to make a traffic nightmare and parking is going to a real problem.

It's all confusing but I think frozen showing that a movie will bring in park attendance, cars spreading out the crowd so you can fit more without expanding too much where you don't want to put the money if you can avoid that. Disney is really looking at how they change and add things to the parks is different than in the past which is why I think what we know as classic disney timelines is wrong now... They are using their old formula of events you having seen and use the AP holders to get attendance and spending to stay up is how they are going to hold us off.

Yes I saw the interview and read it.

Yes they are viewing Pandora that way but we don't know right now if that will happen. Pandora isn't exactly a kid friendly IP like cars.

Slowing down construction even more makes zero sense. Crane work has nothing to do with this, that statement doesn't make any sense.

Toy story is a simple cheap land in comparison to Star Wars. There is no reason why it would be delayed more nor should it be.

They are already working on parking expansion...

We don't know how Pandora will do yet. Sure Disney has high hopes and estimates but those could be wrong just like their estimates on shanghai.

Disney thought frozen would boost attendance at Epcot and I don't believe it has.

Classic Disney timelines built entire parks in a matter of two years. Classic Disney is long gone.

 

[Accident]

My view is coming from my experience in these areas and I don't think disney is operating as business as usual anymore. Not trying to be right or wrong and not trying to prove or say anyone else is wrong. They are just my views and I'm going to leave it here as we'll just go back and forth saying the same thing in different ways to each other. Some points I hope they happen the way you see it as it means better time lines than what I think is going on but it's not going to sway that I see things a little different.

 

[mshanson3121]

True... but at least Avatar land will be opened when we visit

This is how I'm approaching our 2018 trip. I'm going to specifically plan it for late August (as opposed to mid-June), just *in case* TSL opens, in which case, yay! But if not, it's not, and we'll be able to enjoy Avatarland, which will be new to us as well. And maybe, just maybe they'll have the kinks worked out of FEA too (which will also be new to us).

 

[Q-man]

I would think if they can open Cars' Land in 2018 they will. Because presently HS is a 3-4 rides, or less, and done park for many people. If redistributing crowds and keeping them in a single park for the day is a goal then pushing Cars at HS back an extra year makes no sense.

 

[rteetz]

I would think if they can open Cars' Land in 2018 they will. Because presently HS is a 3-4 rides, or less, and done park for many people. If redistributing crowds and keeping them in a single park for the day is a goal then pushing Cars at HS back an extra year makes no sense.

Cars?

 

[lockedoutlogic]

I would think if they can open Cars' Land in 2018 they will. Because presently HS is a 3-4 rides, or less, and done park for many people. If redistributing crowds and keeping them in a single park for the day is a goal then pushing Cars at HS back an extra year makes no sense.

You mean toy story...

And that is EXACTLY what mgm has been for 28 years...they never seemed to care much before.

This idea that Disney is "worried what we have to do for the price of our ticket" is quaint...but is proven false on almost a minute by minute basis. They do things when they reach "critical"...sometimes after that.

 

[Q-man]

You mean toy story...

And that is EXACTLY what mgm has been for 28 years...they never seemed to care much before.

This idea that Disney is "worried what we have to do for the price of our ticket" is quaint...but is proven false on almost a minute by minute basis. They do things when they reach "critical"...sometimes after that.

Oops, Thinking DL.

I don't think they are worried about price of ticket but customer satisfaction over crowds and keeping guests in a single park all day to keep them spending. Travel time between parks is lost revenue producing time.