Tower of Terror accident

[Ronda93]

Isn't the tower of terror ride of similar design to the one that that little boy got thrown off of a few years ago?

I can't let this go. I too, would like hear the details of the child thrown from a ride like ToT. Details please. Maybe it's the incident where they attempted to pass a distraught child from one car to another during the ascent in Spaceship Earth

I cannot remember "reading" ONE of the warning signs in line at Disney. They are not placed where you would typically read them..off to the side for example.

Apparently you remember "seeing" the signs.

 

[Disney1fan2002]

If the girl was injured because of a safety issue with the ride ( the seatbelt did not secure her tight enough, and she flipped out of her seat, the elevator dropped, and did not brake, ect) then i would look at Disney and their ride policies.

The two very unfortunate events the past month has everyone scrutinizing Disney right now, but people, what is Disney to do when they have warning signs about what this ride can do, and parents put them on anyway?

Disney does not need to further restrict the height requirements. In both cases, neither incident had anything to do with them being too little for the ride itself. they could of had the SAME medical emergency if they had both been 20 years old.

You know how some posters here with start a thread about what they see in WDW? Basically moms and dads screaming at their kids, each other, ect? Well, they probably witnessed me one day going OFF on my DH. I was physically shoving him away from my Ds, who was 7yo at the time. h was finally tall enough to ride RnRC, my Dh was so excited, because I will not ride it, after my first ride. I vowed to never ride it again.

He was finally going to be able to go on with my DS. Well, we get over there, and Ds said he did not feel good and had a headache. My Dh just thought he was getting cold feet, and was trying to force him to go on the ride. I told him, if he has a headache, he is not going on the ride. I knew how the G-force made me feel, I was in a near panic, that my Dh was ignoring the fact that Ds had a headache, and of all rides, he wanted him on this one. Dh was taking him by the hand, and I was all but yelling and I finally shoved him away from taking DS's hand.
The whole time Dh was saying, he is faking the headache. Whatever. I was not going to take the chance. Besides, even if he was faking, he obvously was not ready to go on the ride.

So, if DS went on the ride, and something happened to him, believe me, it would of been my Dh in a world of hurt, NOT Disney!

 

[disboy21086]

You missed this part of the quote:
Two people have died after riding other attractions at Disney World this year. A 4-year-old Pennsylvania boy died June 13 after riding Epcot's "Mission: Space." A 77-year-old Minnesota woman died in February after riding the Magic Kingdom's "Pirates of the Caribbean."

A medical examiner's report said she was in poor health from diabetes and several ministrokes and her death "was not unexpected." The cause of the boy's death remains under investigation.



The teen that was on Tower of Terror is in critical condition but is not dead.

Whoops. Sorry. Didn't realize that part was connected to the womans death on POTC.

Sorry for any confusion.

 

[Disney Debbie]

I'm not saying that these rides are toally to blame for these deaths and illnesses..But what would it hurt Disney (other than a little money they have plenty of) to restrct these bigger rides a bit. I was shocked at the ages of some kids on Space mountain! Isn't the tower of terror ride of similar design to the one that that little boy got thrown off of a few years ago? you can defend Disney till your blue in the face but the industry CAN help the situation if they want to and they chose to continue to put the total blame on others. Yes you could walk out in the parking lot and get hit by a car, yes you could be scared to death by a balloon (maybe) yes a parent could have a full health screening and 1000 of tests done before entering Disney but Disney COULD help. I cannot remember "reading" ONE of the warning signs in line at Disney. They are not placed where you would typically read them..off to the side for example. If you are standing in line for an hour they should have these signs every once in a while that says in bold print "Flashing lights, may cause seizures" "Jolting action may cause whiplash" etc. I am not referring to the cases where someone is walkking through the park and happens to have a heart attack or stroke. I am talking about seemingly healthy young people dropping dead, or close to it, after a specific ride. I can't believe the nonchalentness around here when some of you visit Disney every year. Are you not concerned that YOUR child could be the next with an undiagnosed predisposition to one of these problems? Are you not goingt to curb your childs participation in some of these attractions?

If a child has an UNDIAGNOSED problem - all the damn warnings in the world aren't going to help. If you're going to spend your whole life worrying about the VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE of what if's in the world - then why bother living at all? Your solution seems to be to live in a bubble - although they may have an undiagnosed latex allergy so that wouldn't help either
It isn't Disney's fault if a VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE of people get sick or even die from UNDIAGNOSED problems on a ride that is working normally. The woman who was killed by the cleat in Disneyland - that was Disney's fault. Idiots who hop from one car on the people mover to another - that is NOT Disney's fault. I hope this girl turns out to be okay - but to say Disney should do something more is just plain ridiculous IMO. And if you don't read the warnings - that's your fault. They are all over the place, including the maps.

 

[lillygator]

I'm not saying that these rides are toally to blame for these deaths and illnesses..But what would it hurt Disney (other than a little money they have plenty of) to restrct these bigger rides a bit.

The latest incident involved a teenager...what should TOT be restricted to - over 21?

 

[shelby_36]

I don't remember where the child was thrown from the free fall ride but it was probably 10+ years ago.

As far as blaming Disney for undiagnosed illness..I've already said several times they aren't to blame for them. Alls I'm trying to say ..for a little more money..which Disney has...why don't they put more warnings in easy to see places. you want to be t the photograpghers are all over in your face and they have the cookie cutter warnings in front of EVERY ride. Right when you are worried about getting a seat or trying to run up that stupid conveyor belt to throw yourself in a ride.
if they put more specific and more visible signs they would help the problem. And these are not a small percentage of people. 55 deaths alone at Disney resorts from 1964-1998? . 64 people have died since 87 in fixed amusement parks in the US.

If this is not something to worry about how come the governement is trying to get involved? How come Disey is so against reporting of accidents? how come Disney is against safety inspections like smaller amusement parks? What don't they want us to know? Why do they no longer post injury reports within the park?
If Mission Space is so safe to the average person did they have so many complaints of chest pain and sickness they had to install puke bags on the ride? Sounds like fun doesn't it?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I'm not saying that these rides are toally to blame for these deaths and illnesses..But what would it hurt Disney (other than a little money they have plenty of) to restrct these bigger rides a bit. I was shocked at the ages of some kids on Space mountain! Isn't the tower of terror ride of similar design to the one that that little boy got thrown off of a few years ago?

Are you talking about Space Ship earth--and the child who's parent failed to have him keep his arms, legs, and whole body in the vehicle. I believe they settled for the injuries.....but good grief---the kid climbed out and then fell down. The ride itself didn't do anything to him.

 

[snowy76]

Wasn't this girl visiting from the UK? There is a danger of getting a blood clot from sitting still too long, like on an overseas flight. It's possible to get a heart attack this way, or a stroke (this would require neurosurgery but is a vascular problem).

There was an anchor from the Today show who died in Kuwait back in '03 from a blood clot. They figured he'd been cramped inside a tank too long and that a blood clot traveled up from his legs to his heart. He died of a heart attack; he had otherwise been perfectly healthy.

Whatever it is, I think it points out that most kids are not as healthy as their parents and grandparents were as children. Even active kids are constantly putting all kinds of processed foods into their bodies. I cannot believe some of the garbage the government approves for school lunches (I am a teacher). Corndogs and hot pockets? Nachos with cheese whiz as an entree?? Sheesh.

I would not at all be surprised if the heat was a major factor, though. It has been pretty oppressive down there lately, even for FL in the summer. The humidity has been crazy.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I can't believe the nonchalentness around here when some of you visit Disney every year. Are you not concerned that YOUR child could be the next with an undiagnosed predisposition to one of these problems? Are you not goingt to curb your childs participation in some of these attractions?

How dare you suggest that people do not care about their children.

I read all the signs--they are right by where you walk in. Codes are listed on the map.

It isn't rocket science to figure out if a ride is appropriate for people.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The latest incident involved a teenager...what should TOT be restricted to - over 21?

Only if they promise to include $1 drafts and shooters .

 

[Aidensmom]

Are you not concerned that YOUR child could be the next with an undiagnosed predisposition to one of these problems? Are you not goingt to curb your childs participation in some of these attractions?

I will not let my son go on many of these rides while he is very young out of my concern, concern I had before these accidents. When he is older, good judgement is going to be used based on any known conditions he has, as was stated the girl on TOT had. I said this on another thread about the Mission Space incidence, and was treated like I was crazy too, so don't feel like you are the only one! I personally don't think our (my family's) lives are lessened any if we don't go on a couple of rides, and neither does my family.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

. And these are not a small percentage of people. 55 deaths alone at Disney resorts from 1964-1998? . 64 people have died since 87 in fixed amusement parks in the US.

Given that it is the most popular of all "amusement" parks....How about the attendance figures in comparison? You will find that it is a fraction of a percent of those who go.

And then how many of those were deemed the fault of the resort?

Whatever it is, I think it points out that most kids are not as healthy as their parents and grandparents were as children. Even active kids are constantly putting all kinds of processed foods into their bodies. I cannot believe some of the garbage the government approves for school lunches (I am a teacher). Corndogs and hot pockets? Nachos with cheese whiz as an entree?? Sheesh.

I'm all for organic and least processed foods as possible...but these blood clots are the same that patients in hospitals can get from sitting too long. Never in any of my research has someone jumped to that conclusion of diet---causes blood clots when you sit for too long. .

 

[Ronda93]

I said this on another thread about the Mission Space incidence, and was treated like I was crazy too, so don't feel like you are the only one!

You are not crazy. Your risk analysis odd though.

 

[angel*lady]

And these are not a small percentage of people. 55 deaths alone at Disney resorts from 1964-1998?

Actually if you compare 55 deaths to the millions of visitors that have visited Disney resorts in that time frame it is a very small percentage. Unfortunate indeed, but a very very small percentage. JMOH

 

[4greatboys]

Are you not concerned that YOUR child could be the next with an undiagnosed predisposition to one of these problems? Are you not goingt to curb your childs participation in some of these attractions?

The same thing could happen to your kid playing football, soccer, basketball, etc. Are you suggesting we never let our kids do anything just to keep them protected from the tiny percentage they do have an undiagnosed health condition? Its just not at disney these things show up.
I want to make decisions on who should ride what ride at disney or who should play what sport they want for my family, not someone else make the decision for me. There are warnings on the rides for people that have certain ailments.
Its a very sad thing that happened to the girl and God forbid anything every happens to one of my kids but Im not willing to just sit in my home and not live life to the fullest, that my family choses, on the very small chance something could happen.

 

[dcentity2000]

The only new that we hear about is bad news.

Why?

Dull news (eg. youngster enjoys ride SHOCK) doesn't sell.

So yah-boo-hiss to the doomsday merchants



Rich::

 

[Ronda93]

55/40,000,000 (Disney's estimated Florida attendance for 1998 alone) = .0001375%

And these are not a small percentage of people. 55 deaths alone at Disney resorts from 1964-1998?

No, that is a small percentage.

 

[shelby_36]

Well we all have the choice to go on or not. I still don't understand why Disney won't report all accidents and let us make an informed decision. maybe they are more concerned with their stock then they are about your child's safety.

the ride I was recaling was a 8-10 yr old on a free fall ride and he simply flew up and out.

As far as my kids getting hurt in sports they also aren't being hurled around harder than a minor car accident. you can make informed decisions yes. but when EVERY ride saiys stay off for back or heart injuries there is no level of intenseness.unless you are a person that goes constantly you would have no idea what are byond those turnstiles and they purposely have it blocked so you can't see the attraction before you get up there in many cases. I am just curious why Disney is so afraid of giving more info. to the public.

And BTW in my book - ONE death is one too many.

 

[MELSMICE]

I don't remember where the child was thrown from the free fall ride but it was probably 10+ years ago.

As far as I know, the only free fall attraction at Disney is ToT & I don't ever remember hearing of anyone being thrown from it.

Are you talking about Space Ship earth--and the child who's parent failed to have him keep his arms, legs, and whole body in the vehicle. I believe they settled for the injuries.....but good grief---the kid climbed out and then fell down. The ride itself didn't do anything to him.

shelby_36 - is the incident Lisa speaks about the one you're referring to? If so, as Lisa said, it was negligence on the part of the parents.

 

[Lil_Tink]

The same thing could happen to your kid playing football, soccer, basketball, etc. Are you suggesting we never let our kids do anything just to keep them protected from the tiny percentage they do have an undiagnosed health condition? Its just not at disney these things show up.
I want to make decisions on who should ride what ride at disney or who should play what sport they want for my family, not someone else make the decision for me. There are warnings on the rides for people that have certain ailments.
Its a very sad thing that happened to the girl and God forbid anything every happens to one of my kids but Im not willing to just sit in my home and not live life to the fullest, that my family choses, on the very small chance something could happen.

I totally agree. I mean why let your kid not have any fun, Yes it could be your kid but why keep them in a bubble?...