Too Many Acronymns!

[BuzzinDownToDisney]

Post 5

Yeah, my bad it was 5 not 1.

 

[BuzzinDownToDisney]

I'll agree that name calling isn't constructive, but when the counter-argument to typing out full names/words is that it is too many characters (aka too much effort), isn't that kind of the definition of laziness? And while I understand the analogy of going to France and demanding to communicate in English, I don't see that applying here. In the proposed scenario, the person is demanding a complete change in the form of communication. Dae3dae3 merely suggested a slight change to enhance communication, to improve the communication, not change it completely. Again, I'll ask...what is wrong with improving your communication skills? (Unless, of course, all you want to do is communicate how much you know and that you are a member of an elite group, which is what happens when you use a lot of jargon.) Why are so many on here averse to change?

Why does the communication need to be enhanced for people that have used it for 15 years? And who determines it is enhanced? One poster? Again, I've only been here for 4 weeks, so I get the newbie struggle, but I wouldn't dare be so elitist to tell the posters here they need to "Improve their communication skills." One would argue they have made their method of communication more enhanced.

 

[LetsGoToo]

And on what do you base that?

Here's one study:

http://www.nngroup.com/articles/participation-inequality/

There's many more if you want to do a google search. It's something that has been widely known for years.

 

[LetsGoToo]

I'll agree that name calling isn't constructive, but when the counter-argument to typing out full names/words is that it is too many characters (aka too much effort), isn't that kind of the definition of laziness? And while I understand the analogy of going to France and demanding to communicate in English, I don't see that applying here. In the proposed scenario, the person is demanding a complete change in the form of communication. Dae3dae3 merely suggested a slight change to enhance communication, to improve the communication, not change it completely. Again, I'll ask...what is wrong with improving your communication skills? (Unless, of course, all you want to do is communicate how much you know and that you are a member of an elite group, which is what happens when you use a lot of jargon.) Why are so many on here averse to change?

I agree. I still don't get why someone would want to post something that some people may not understand. Isn't the point of posting to get people to read what you posted?

 

[delgrec]

Here's one study: http://www.nngroup.com/articles/participation-inequality/ There's many more if you want to do a google search. It's something that has been widely known for years.

But that is on the lurkers. People are not posting for the benefit of a lurker. They are posting for responses, feedback, answers to their questions etc. if the lurker doesn't understand what he/she is reading then they should take the time to learn or move on. The community should not have to change their way of communicating for the benefit of a passive participant. Again, back to what I said a few posts ago, access to disboards is not a right and is totally optional.

 

[FLchick415]

Here's another way to look at it: When you start a new job, if you don't catch on as quickly as you thought you would, would you expect your employer to change the way they've been doing things for X-amount of years to comply with your needs? You'd ask for help, would you not?

 

[AngiTN]

Here's one study:

http://www.nngroup.com/articles/participation-inequality/

There's many more if you want to do a google search. It's something that has been widely known for years.

And you know they don't participate due to use of acronyms? Some people just want to read, not participate. Is that not ok? Seeing as they don't post I don't think anyone can assume to know why it is they don't participate.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I was trying to let the thread die by not responding but now I've been criticized for not responding so here we go again.

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If you are going to backhandedly reference me, at Lear do so correctly. I didn't criticize you for not responding at all. I took note and commented on that you were willing to come back and respond to rudeness, while you have ignored sincere responses and then came back and claimed that the responses you are getting are all rude. They are not, in fact, all rude. Those are just the ones you are choosing to respond to.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I'll agree that name calling isn't constructive, but when the counter-argument to typing out full names/words is that it is too many characters (aka too much effort), isn't that kind of the definition of laziness? And while I understand the analogy of going to France and demanding to communicate in English, I don't see that applying here. In the proposed scenario, the person is demanding a complete change in the form of communication. Dae3dae3 merely suggested a slight change to enhance communication, to improve the communication, not change it completely. Again, I'll ask...what is wrong with improving your communication skills? (Unless, of course, all you want to do is communicate how much you know and that you are a member of an elite group, which is what happens when you use a lot of jargon.) Why are so many on here averse to change?

As I and others have pointed out, in some instances it is just how we think of the term. In my head I think emh, not extra magic hours...adr, not advanced dining reservation. Much like I think ROTC (pronounced rot-see) instead of reserve officer training corps. It isnt always a.conscious decision to use the acronym,.so.much as it is just how we think of the term in the first place.

 

[LilyWDW]

I have been a part of some sort of online community since the days of AOL. No matter the community, there is usually a specific "language" to learn. I have seen it with communities for Disney, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Business, and many others. When I would join one of these groups I would spend a long time reading and watching before jumping in and posting. I would never have even contemplated going on and asking them to change how they do everything! And then to have the guts to complain that they are rude because they laugh and say no! No, I would have been the rude one.

To be blunt, this community is MUCH nicer to the OP then many others would be with a similar post. I have been in some where the OP would have been told "get out" if they kept this sort of thing up.

But it IS up to the newbie to integrate themselves into the culture and language of a community.

 

[Angel Ariel]

I agree. I still don't get why someone would want to post something that some people may not understand. Isn't the point of posting to get people to read what you posted?

In every post I've ever made, I've always gotten quick and helpful responses. So there has not been any reason to think that my post was not understood.

 

[Jennasis]

Btw...I also use acronyms so I WILL be understood HERE. Since acronyms are used here that's the proper language to use IMO.

 

[AngiTN]

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If you are going to backhandedly reference me, at Lear do so correctly. I didn't criticize you for not responding at all. I took note and commented on that you were willing to come back and respond to rudeness, while you have ignored sincere responses and then came back and claimed that the responses you are getting are all rude. They are not, in fact, all rude. Those are just the ones you are choosing to respond to.

You noticed that too?

I don't follow why the OP can't just change the way they opt to post and let others post how they want to. Their opinion was given. Rebuttals were given. The 2 shall never meet. No one is trying to tell OP, or others who feel similar, they can't alter the way they make posts. No one will snicker or make fun or call you out for spelling out the words before you use the acronym. Go forth and start the movement. Just don't be surprised when few follow you. Some will though, so feel good that you got through to a few. Stop trying to change "the world". It ain't gonna happen.

 

[sharadoc]

One good thing to come from this thread is that there seems to be some legitimate support for a whole scale ban on the annoying term "ressie" as it is neither an acronym OR an initialism and just sounds like something a toddler says! Now time for me to go double check my resvs!

LOL - I'll take "ressie" over "brekkie" any time. That one I hate!! But I don't attack the poster, I just go "ew" and move on.

OP, I really do think the acronym issue is the same everywhere, not just here. You know how long it took me to under "ICYMI" on Twitter and other forums? But I learned. When I type on my phone, I'd much rather use acronyms and abbreviations.

When I joined here back in 2008, I read and learned. I didn't post for months until I felt like I could join the family. It's much easier to get a welcome when you're friendly, rather than jump in the group swinging your fists. The group sets the tone, not a new individual who doesn't like the way the group works, unless you get elected king or queen of the DISboards.

 

[Jennasis]

And of course there's the notion that his post doesn't even belong on this board. It is better suited to the community board since it has nothing to do with theme park planning.

 

[danielle.st]

It makes me LOL that this thread is still alive. Yesterday it annoyed me enough that someone is arrogant enough to think they should tell people how to communicate even though the specifics they were complaining about were not rude, offensive or a violation of the TOU, that I considered just staying away from the whole site. Today? Instead it just makes me want to use even more abbreviations and tell those refusing to learn or use them that they are the ones being lazy. And I am not someone who even uses tons and tons of abbreviations normally.

 

[cassiejo2711]

It makes me LOL that this thread is still alive. Yesterday it annoyed me enough that someone is arrogant enough to think they should tell people how to communicate even though the specifics they were complaining about were not rude, offensive or a violation of the TOU, that I considered just staying away from the whole site. Today? Instead it just makes me want to use even more abbreviations and tell those refusing to learn or use them that they are the ones being lazy. And I am not someone who even uses tons and tons of abbreviations normally.

I've read the forums for awhile but am a newer member who doesn't post much. I personally don't find the abbreviations, acronyms, initialisms, etc frustrating.

Also, I generally consider myself to be a very nice person, but I too have the urge to abbreviate everything now. Haha.

 

[fairyprincess88]

LOL - I'll take "ressie" over "brekkie" any time. That one I hate!! But I don't attack the poster, I just go "ew" and move on.

I wonder if those who have an issue with the use of "brekkie" know that the word is very commonly used in the UK to describe breakfast. I'm British American and every day growing up I heard, "it's time for brekkie" or some such variation. It is even written on menu boards and the like.

I guess I just find it strange that some would go "ew" over it since to many it's about as normal as using the word "supper".

 

[gofordrew]

I'm sorry if this is out of line but the acronyms are getting out of control on this forum. Half the time I can't figure out what the poster is trying to say.

Is it really that hard to just type the word? At least use the word once and then abbreviate it so people that don't live on this board 365 days a year know what you are talking about. I've been building up to this post for a while so please don't think any one person's post is why I am writing this.

or

ISITIOOLBTAAGOOCOTF. HTTICFOWTPITTS. IIRTHTJTTW? ALUTWOATAISPTDLOTB365DAYKWYATA. IBBUTTPFAWSPDTAOPPIWIAWT.

Haha! I couldn't agree more!! I joined this forum a few weeks ago and was so confused on some people's posts. You literally are only going to save a second or 2. The common ones are fine and if you are going to use it multiple times that's fine...but 6 or 7 words in your sentence should not be abbreviate.

 

[bella2117]

I'm going to go to one of my "ressies" while walking my son on a kid leash and then taking him into the woman's restroom to use the bathroom