Toby Keith... like him?

[kaysmommie]

Don't like him. I like the Dixie chicks better

 

[Tiggeroo]

I love Toby. He is one of the reasons I listen to some country music now. And I love his great big sexiness. He's a hot man.

 

[Squirlz]

All hat and no cattle. Don't follow country-pop myself, but he impresses me as a sellout.

 

[Cool-Beans]

All hat and no cattle. Don't follow country-pop myself, but he impresses me as a sellout.

Toby Keith has been called a lot of different things by people who don't like him - "jingoistic" is the word most of them like to use. But nobody ever calls him a "sellout." Most of Toby's troubles stem from the fact that he doesn't sell out.

 

[Squirlz]

Toby Keith has been called a lot of different things by people who don't like him - "jingoistic" is the word most of them like to use. But nobody ever calls him a "sellout." Most of Toby's troubles stem from the fact that he doesn't sell out.

That's kinda what I mean. It's my impression that he's taking advantage of the fact that jingoism sells. He's focusing on where the money (record sales) is. That and those awful Ford truck commercials are what have lead me to my opinion.

Now if you want to talk unmitigated sellout, how 'bout those Black Eyed Peas!

 

[wvrevy]

Yeah, not a big fan of Toby "Let's see how much money I can make off being the 'I Support the Troops' guy" Keith.

Remember the big flap over the t-shirt one of the Dixie Chicks wore to some awards show a couple years ago. Well...I'm with Natalie.

 

[cardaway]

Toby is a sellout?


That's a solid yes.

 

[Cool-Beans]

That's kinda what I mean. It's my impression that he's taking advantage of the fact that jingoism sells. He's focusing on where the money (record sales) is. That and those awful Ford truck commercials are what have lead me to my opinion.

Now if you want to talk unmitigated sellout, how 'bout those Black Eyed Peas!

I don't know anything about the Black Eyed Peas. Were they the ones that sang, "Hard to Handle?" I liked that song.

I don't consider celebrity endorsements to be "selling out" unless the person is endorsing a product they wouldn't actually use.

Toby's Angry American song was what he believed, not what he thought would sell. In fact, he wasn't going to include it on an album. He was just going to sing it for the military. Those around him kept asking him to include it, but he kept saying, "No, too personal, just for the military guys." Then some high-up general called him and told him it was his duty to release it, so he did. And, that's just one song. I know there was a lot of controversy over it, but it is one of a gazillion songs.

If what you believe happens to sell, no problem with that. I don't think that is "selling out." To me, selling out is saying or doing something you don't personally believe in order to make money. I have no problem with that, per se, but Toby hasn't done it.

There are lots of people in America who don't consider war a political issue. Being in favor of whomping the guys who have killed or plan on killing Americans isn't necessarily a Republican thing.

Much as I love to talk about Toby, I'm afraid some people just like to talk about him so that they can switch the conversation around to war, or the flippin Dixie Chicks, and that's unfortunate. There is so much more to him and his songs.

And, like I said before, Toby was visiting and singing for the troops long before September 11, 2001. It isn't something he started when it got popular to do it...he always did it. That's not selling out. It's just what he does. Some guy who ran a program that sends people overseas to entertain even mentioned that Toby does it, but "doesn't ask for a nickel."

The Ford truck commercials might not be great, but at least I get to see Toby. They're the only ones I rewind for on the DVR.

 

[transparant]

I TOTALLY LOVE HIM! (on a side note...he sent my org. 50 signed CD's to send to our troops and to take to our wounded troops at Walter Reed - The boys LOVED them!!!)

 

[Cool-Beans]

I TOTALLY LOVE HIM!

Them's fighting words. You'll stay outta my way if you know what's good fer ya.

 

[transparant]

Them's fighting words. You'll stay outta my way if you know what's good fer ya.

- He's nice a tall too

 

[Squirlz]

I don't know anything about the Black Eyed Peas. Were they the ones that sang, "Hard to Handle?" I liked that song.

Black Eyed Peas seem to be in every other commercial...that's all I really know about them.

You certainly know more about Toby than I and my knee-jerk impressions. Thanks...I learned something today!

 

[C.Ann]

I don't know anything about the Black Eyed Peas. Were they the ones that sang, "Hard to Handle?" I liked that song.

I don't consider celebrity endorsements to be "selling out" unless the person is endorsing a product they wouldn't actually use.

Toby's Angry American song was what he believed, not what he thought would sell. In fact, he wasn't going to include it on an album. He was just going to sing it for the military. Those around him kept asking him to include it, but he kept saying, "No, too personal, just for the military guys." Then some high-up general called him and told him it was his duty to release it, so he did. And, that's just one song. I know there was a lot of controversy over it, but it is one of a gazillion songs.

If what you believe happens to sell, no problem with that. I don't think that is "selling out." To me, selling out is saying or doing something you don't personally believe in order to make money. I have no problem with that, per se, but Toby hasn't done it.

There are lots of people in America who don't consider war a political issue. Being in favor of whomping the guys who have killed or plan on killing Americans isn't necessarily a Republican thing.

Much as I love to talk about Toby, I'm afraid some people just like to talk about him so that they can switch the conversation around to war, or the flippin Dixie Chicks, and that's unfortunate. There is so much more to him and his songs.

And, like I said before, Toby was visiting and singing for the troops long before September 11, 2001. It isn't something he started when it got popular to do it...he always did it. That's not selling out. It's just what he does. Some guy who ran a program that sends people overseas to entertain even mentioned that Toby does it, but "doesn't ask for a nickel."

The Ford truck commercials might not be great, but at least I get to see Toby. They're the only ones I rewind for on the DVR.

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I agree 100%.. Love his music and love the fact that he stands by his convictions - even if it means telling the CMA where they can stuff their awards..

Ever hear the story of how he got started in this business? All of the big record labels turned him down because he wasn't a "yes" guy.. He wanted to record certain songs and they didn't want him to.. He stuck to his convictions and a lot of those big record label producers are kicking themselves in the butt now..

The guy is awesome!

 

[ClarabelleCowFan]

See Cool - Beans post above.

Ummm ok but that doesn't mean that he is at odds with the entire Country Music Association. The membership is pretty diverse and includes not only label people but tons of people in radio, promotions, artist management, etc... from all over the world. I can assure you there is no secret conspiracy against TK.

 

[C.Ann]

Ummm ok but that doesn't mean that he is at odds with the entire Country Music Association. The membership is pretty diverse and includes not only label people but tons of people in radio, promotions, artist management, etc... from all over the world. I can assure you there is no secret conspiracy against TK.

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I don't think he's at "odds" with them at all.. He just couldn't care less.. He doesn't need "awards" to validate his confidence, talent, or convictions.. That's what makes him so unique..

 

[Cool-Beans]

I couldn't care less if Toby ever wins another award anywhere. So tired of all those shows with those people giving each other awards. Hookairs? I just fast forward to the singing parts.

And, yeah, Toby is well-known for his head-butting (and refusing to sell out) with record companies. After hearing the story behind them refusing to release, "How Do You Like Me Now?" I can't say that I blame him. That song is flippin sweet. Plus, I noticed a lot more folks finally took notice of Toby at that point, so good for him...he was right, he stuck to it.

He wanted to do things his way, so he started his own record company. Whether or not that works out for him remains to be seen. I, for one, wish him the best.

 

[Papa Deuce]

He wanted to do things his way, so he started his own record company. Whether or not that works out for him remains to be seen. I, for one, wish him the best.

I think he's gonna be just fine!