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To Infinity and Beyond - Becoming a Better DopeyBadger (Comments Welcome)
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Attack of the Jelly Legs!!!
And so I've made it! Completed the last long run today and have officially entered the taper period (although for Hansons the "real" taper doesn't really start till 10 days to go). The calf felt better today and is still solidly on it's way to 100%. However, I had an occurrence of "Jelly Legs" today. I'm not 100% sure on the cause and am open to suggestions as to why it occurs. My guess is it happens because of an over fatiguing of a very specific muscle set. Essentially, my legs turn to jelly and it's like I forgot how to run. My form goes to crud and no matter what I do at that pace I can't fix it. Legs start falling apart, stride gets screwed up, sometimes my foot barely even hits the ground, and sometimes my foot just completely scuffs across the ground. Today on my 18 miler, it happened at mile 15. Usually I have two solutions:
1) Run faster!
2) Run slower!
Staying at the same pace isn't an option because the legs just don't work. So usually I choose to start running faster with the hope it clears things up and allows that set of muscles some reprieve. I did that at mile 14 of the 2015 Lakefront Marathon and it worked very well. I did that on Thursday of this week, and pushed too hard. I wasn't willing to take that risk today, so I backed off on the last few miles. However, on the bright side my breathing was good, my muscles were not sore, and I am feeling very confident that this marathon might go very well in 21 days.
Another thing to share! Peaked at 71.1 miles and 10:08 time spent training! And over the last 4 days I've run 52.16 miles (14.16+10+10+18) in 7:21:17. This works out to a 8:28 min/mile. For reference my Dopey PR (Jan 2016) is 6:45:30 for 48.6 miles or a pace of 8:21 min/mile. Happy to be this close on what I would consider significantly less effort. *And yes, I get that these 52 miles aren't quite the same as 48.6 since the marathon isn't included.
And so I've made it! Completed the last long run today and have officially entered the taper period (although for Hansons the "real" taper doesn't really start till 10 days to go). The calf felt better today and is still solidly on it's way to 100%. However, I had an occurrence of "Jelly Legs" today. I'm not 100% sure on the cause and am open to suggestions as to why it occurs. My guess is it happens because of an over fatiguing of a very specific muscle set. Essentially, my legs turn to jelly and it's like I forgot how to run. My form goes to crud and no matter what I do at that pace I can't fix it. Legs start falling apart, stride gets screwed up, sometimes my foot barely even hits the ground, and sometimes my foot just completely scuffs across the ground. Today on my 18 miler, it happened at mile 15. Usually I have two solutions:
1) Run faster!
2) Run slower!
Staying at the same pace isn't an option because the legs just don't work. So usually I choose to start running faster with the hope it clears things up and allows that set of muscles some reprieve. I did that at mile 14 of the 2015 Lakefront Marathon and it worked very well. I did that on Thursday of this week, and pushed too hard. I wasn't willing to take that risk today, so I backed off on the last few miles. However, on the bright side my breathing was good, my muscles were not sore, and I am feeling very confident that this marathon might go very well in 21 days.
Another thing to share! Peaked at 71.1 miles and 10:08 time spent training! And over the last 4 days I've run 52.16 miles (14.16+10+10+18) in 7:21:17. This works out to a 8:28 min/mile. For reference my Dopey PR (Jan 2016) is 6:45:30 for 48.6 miles or a pace of 8:21 min/mile. Happy to be this close on what I would consider significantly less effort. *And yes, I get that these 52 miles aren't quite the same as 48.6 since the marathon isn't included.
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I'm slacking...you get two today!
This is not me, but if you squint and pretend like I've ever ran 21 miles...it could be.
And this won't be you...you'll be like that kool-aid guy and just plow through mile 20
Congrats on making it to taper-time!
This is not me, but if you squint and pretend like I've ever ran 21 miles...it could be.
And this won't be you...you'll be like that kool-aid guy and just plow through mile 20
Congrats on making it to taper-time!
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I'm slacking...you get two today!
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This is not me, but if you squint and pretend like I've ever ran 21 miles...it could be.
And this won't be you...you'll be like that kool-aid guy and just plow through mile 20
Congrats on making it to taper-time!
I was worried I was already losing my mind at 33 when I couldn't remember seeing your countdown post yesterday. Glad to see I'm not losing my mind and you're just a slacker instead.
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Well, I'm 35 so I hope you aren't losing your mind already! Just know we are never too old to be slackers
I actually blame dopeybadger since I had to fit a blind 6 mile tempo run in between my kid's swim school and going to disney on ice. Good thing I'm a huge disney-geek, otherwise I would have been zzzzzz through that whole thing.
I actually blame dopeybadger since I had to fit a blind 6 mile tempo run in between my kid's swim school and going to disney on ice. Good thing I'm a huge disney-geek, otherwise I would have been zzzzzz through that whole thing.
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Hmmm, since you've got all the extraneous factors covered (pace, fueling, weather..) I have to go with possible muscle fatigue? Sometimes your mind says one thing (feeling good and strong) and your legs say another.
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Well, I'm 35 so I hope you aren't losing your mind already! Just know we are never too old to be slackers
I actually blame dopeybadger since I had to fit a blind 6 mile tempo run in between my kid's swim school and going to disney on ice. Good thing I'm a huge disney-geek, otherwise I would have been zzzzzz through that whole thing.
Sounds like you need to blame the kid and not @DopeyBadger here. Luckily, I'm not quite to the point where I need to drop money on things like Disney on Ice for my little one yet, but he'll be turning 6 months in December and that's when our community center starts swim lessons, so that will start consuming some more time.
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I'm slacking...you get two today!
View attachment 194061
This is not me, but if you squint and pretend like I've ever ran 21 miles...it could be.
And this won't be you...you'll be like that kool-aid guy and just plow through mile 20
Congrats on making it to taper-time!
On man, that mile 20 one is a good one. Well done!
I was worried I was already losing my mind at 33 when I couldn't remember seeing your countdown post yesterday. Glad to see I'm not losing my mind and you're just a slacker instead.
LOL!
Well, I'm 35 so I hope you aren't losing your mind already! Just know we are never too old to be slackers
I actually blame dopeybadger since I had to fit a blind 6 mile tempo run in between my kid's swim school and going to disney on ice. Good thing I'm a huge disney-geek, otherwise I would have been zzzzzz through that whole thing.
I think you're right. It's such a weird sensation because I wasn't tired but no matter what I did I couldn't lift my legs off the ground consistently and evenly.
Hooray for swim lessons! My advice make sure to check if the pool is heated! Our local pool in December (while still indoors) is not heated and Gigi gets miserable/squirrely
after about 15 minutes. Still so much fun!
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Thanks! I'm feeling confident.
(<---- FYI - He's doing the Peanut Butter and "Jelly Leg" Time Dance!)
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woah! Jaime Dawes joined the dis boards strava group. She won Tink 2016. Your strava group is exploding! Congrats!
DopeyBadger
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So cool! I followed her a month or so ago because I found her on the Dopey Challenge Strava group and was inspired by her races. She finished 24th in Dopey 2016 with a total time of 5:54:21 (3rd female overall)! She has been absolutely destroying her competition lately so it's been fun to see what she's been doing to get there. She recently overall won a race, which is just so awesome! She is where I want to be from a race time perspective.
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19 Days to Go (ATTACK OF THE JELLY LEGS!)
Attack of the Jelly Legs! Here's what you get when you google it:
Jelly legs were the theme of the week. It was the peak week and my body definitely let me know it. Let's see how the week went.
Date - Day - Scheduled Workout (Intervals within desired pace, Strength +/- 5 sec, everything else +/- 10 sec)
9/7/16 - W - Medicine Ball Workout (MBW)
9/8/16 - R - 1.5 miles @ 9:10 min/mile + 11 miles @ 7:33 min/mile + 1.5 miles @ 9:20 min/mile (8/11)
9/9/16 - F - 10 miles @ 9:11 min/mile (4/10)
9/10/16 - Sat - 10 miles @ 8:33 min/mile (7/10) + MBW
9/11/16 - Sun - 18 miles @ 8:13 min/mile (14/18)
9/12/16 - M - 8 miles @ 9:11 min/mile (5/8)
9/13/16 - T - 1.5 miles @ 9:29 min/mile + 4 x 1.5 mile @ 7:23 min/mile with 400m RI @ 9:34 min/mile + 1.5 miles @ 9:46 min/mile (4/4)
Total mileage = 70.5 miles
Number of intervals within pace = 41/61 (67%)
Thursday was the first 11 mile tempo run I have ever done (including all prior training). I was excited to take the training one step further this cycle and because of the duration 11 miles would take me based on my pace I thought it still fit the desired physiological gains. T+D of 140 which is decent. So the oddity of the day, a man slowed his car up next to me as I was running. He said "hi, I like your running stride". And I was like ummm, ok thanks creep! He said "I work at the Johnson Health Tech facility in town. Where do you start your run?" I said I did a three mile loop and started over there (very intentionally vague). He was like "Do you run on treadmills often?" I told him no, I'm almost exclusively a road runner. He said "Well we make treadmills and I'm in charge of the treadmill testing department I'd love to have you work with us." I told him I appreciate the offer, but I'm not sure I'd be a good candidate because I 100% prefer to run on roads. He said thanks and that he'd heard of my type of runner (jokingly of course) and we went about our way. Such a weird experience. My wife was totally like I should have done it, get paid to run/train, why not? Ehhh, maybe I should have done it, but I'm not really a treadmill runner. Anyways, back to the run. So as I was getting closer to the end it was getting much tougher. I knew this would be the last day I would be willing to go "there" and decided to go for it on the last tempo mile. This was the first occurrence of the aforementioned "Jelly Legs". I knew at the time the only way I could overcome the Jelly Legs was to either go faster or slower, but staying at the same pace/effort was not an option. On this run, I decided to go for it and run faster. It was a solid tempo run with 73% of the intervals within pace.
Friday I became aware of a tightness in my right calf and soreness on the top of it. I've had this before and typically it happens because I pushed too hard on a training run. So apparently, I pushed too hard on Thursday. Thankfully, if I continue to take it easy, run up hills easy, and just be extra cautious with it it should clear in a few days. So overall the run went fine. Several times I considered ending early, but decided to stick with it. A few "twitches" during the run where the right leg was pulled abnormally. It's an odd sensation.
Saturday was an early morning run. I wasn't sure whether I would do it at all. I was going to make that decision based on how I felt when I got up. So up at 3:45, pre-run breakfast, and then out the door at 5:45. The run was fine. The calf was still tight and the soreness still present, but it was better than Friday. I again questioned whether I should complete the whole run or cut it short but the calf felt better the longer I was running on it.
Sunday was the last long run. Up at 4:00, pre-run breakfast, and then out the door by 6:00am. I was super stoked for this run. I decided to start this run earlier then I needed to (no real time commitments) but because the T+D was around 100 at 6:00am I wanted to simulate early October marathon weather. I was planning on being super cautious. My calf was still not 100%, so it wasn't worth the risk of any significant setbacks. Everything went as well as expected. When not running up/down hills I was in my almost normal long run stride with a few "twitches" here and there but nothing major. However, taking it slow on the hills (which reduced more twitches) also slowed me down on overall pace. I'm not terribly concerned with that. I mean the last long run for the May 2016 Wisconsin Marathon didn't even occur because I got super sick right before that weekend. However, then came mile 15. I could tell that my legs were getting fatigued as my form started to fall apart. It wasn't breathing and it wasn't pain, it was just a weird sensation I get where I can best describe it as "I forget how to run". It was "Attack of the Jelly Legs - The SEQUEL". I've never really had this occur twice in one week, but I think it's likely being caused my over fatigued single set of muscles. So since, I wasn't prepared to go "there" again I decided to back off on the pace a bit. So the last two intervals were a tad slower, but better that than a long term problem that carries over into race day. Overall, I'm pretty stoked with how the day finished out. Came home and felt strong and recovered well with some shopping with no ill effects of the "Jelly Legs".
Monday was a slap of DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness). So during Monday I was fine, but once I started running it became very apparent just how tired my body was from the workouts. The last time I had this feeling of overwhelming fatigue was Marathon Weekend after the half/morning of the marathon. Those first couple miles were a struggle, but since this was an EA day it was a "go as slow as you want and don't worry about it day". After a few miles, the sense of overwhelming fatigue finally broke and it felt better. Thankfully, no occurrences of right calf twitching or tightness so I think I've put that behind me. Once I got home I saw that the pace was a 9:20 and was a little disappointed. I was suppose to do 9:11. I was getting a little concerned that maybe I've pushed too hard these last few days and my body's starting to rebel. To confirm this, I decided to look at prior EA runs after the 18 mile long runs. They were 9:15 and 9:22 average pace. So it was a bit of a relief to see that this EA run was no different than roughly 28 days ago after my first very successful and easy 18 mile run. I was less concerned with the overall pace after that.
Tuesday was a question of whether I continued to go easy or do the strength run as planned. I decided to play it by ear. Start the run easy with the warm-up and then see how it goes. So, here's how it went (goal pace 7:23)
Interval 1- 7:39
Interval 2- 7:21
Interval 3- 7:24
Interval 4- 7:21
Yep, it went well. No calf pain. No hip pain. A little bit of stuffy nose (still haven't gotten rid of whatever that is, but it only occurs during running). Solid all around.
I've been training for so long for this. Almost the entire year has been devoted to this one race. Every mile. Every 100 degree day. Every -25 degree day. Every day running in snow, rain, wind, at 3am, at 10pm, with muscle soreness, with humidity, with a training plan way above anything I've done has all been for October 2nd. To put it one way I recently did on the running thread. I will have spent almost 2000 miles training for a race that is only 26.2 miles. That's roughly 99.987% time running as training and only 0.0131% of the time running this particular race. No pressure. This is just the victory lap of training!
Honestly, there's not much left.
Long Runs - 0
Tempo Runs - 2
Strength Runs - 1
This really is the home stretch and entrance into taper town.
Attack of the Jelly Legs! Here's what you get when you google it:
Jelly legs were the theme of the week. It was the peak week and my body definitely let me know it. Let's see how the week went.
Date - Day - Scheduled Workout (Intervals within desired pace, Strength +/- 5 sec, everything else +/- 10 sec)
9/7/16 - W - Medicine Ball Workout (MBW)
9/8/16 - R - 1.5 miles @ 9:10 min/mile + 11 miles @ 7:33 min/mile + 1.5 miles @ 9:20 min/mile (8/11)
9/9/16 - F - 10 miles @ 9:11 min/mile (4/10)
9/10/16 - Sat - 10 miles @ 8:33 min/mile (7/10) + MBW
9/11/16 - Sun - 18 miles @ 8:13 min/mile (14/18)
9/12/16 - M - 8 miles @ 9:11 min/mile (5/8)
9/13/16 - T - 1.5 miles @ 9:29 min/mile + 4 x 1.5 mile @ 7:23 min/mile with 400m RI @ 9:34 min/mile + 1.5 miles @ 9:46 min/mile (4/4)
Total mileage = 70.5 miles
Number of intervals within pace = 41/61 (67%)
Thursday was the first 11 mile tempo run I have ever done (including all prior training). I was excited to take the training one step further this cycle and because of the duration 11 miles would take me based on my pace I thought it still fit the desired physiological gains. T+D of 140 which is decent. So the oddity of the day, a man slowed his car up next to me as I was running. He said "hi, I like your running stride". And I was like ummm, ok thanks creep! He said "I work at the Johnson Health Tech facility in town. Where do you start your run?" I said I did a three mile loop and started over there (very intentionally vague). He was like "Do you run on treadmills often?" I told him no, I'm almost exclusively a road runner. He said "Well we make treadmills and I'm in charge of the treadmill testing department I'd love to have you work with us." I told him I appreciate the offer, but I'm not sure I'd be a good candidate because I 100% prefer to run on roads. He said thanks and that he'd heard of my type of runner (jokingly of course) and we went about our way. Such a weird experience. My wife was totally like I should have done it, get paid to run/train, why not? Ehhh, maybe I should have done it, but I'm not really a treadmill runner. Anyways, back to the run. So as I was getting closer to the end it was getting much tougher. I knew this would be the last day I would be willing to go "there" and decided to go for it on the last tempo mile. This was the first occurrence of the aforementioned "Jelly Legs". I knew at the time the only way I could overcome the Jelly Legs was to either go faster or slower, but staying at the same pace/effort was not an option. On this run, I decided to go for it and run faster. It was a solid tempo run with 73% of the intervals within pace.
Friday I became aware of a tightness in my right calf and soreness on the top of it. I've had this before and typically it happens because I pushed too hard on a training run. So apparently, I pushed too hard on Thursday. Thankfully, if I continue to take it easy, run up hills easy, and just be extra cautious with it it should clear in a few days. So overall the run went fine. Several times I considered ending early, but decided to stick with it. A few "twitches" during the run where the right leg was pulled abnormally. It's an odd sensation.
Saturday was an early morning run. I wasn't sure whether I would do it at all. I was going to make that decision based on how I felt when I got up. So up at 3:45, pre-run breakfast, and then out the door at 5:45. The run was fine. The calf was still tight and the soreness still present, but it was better than Friday. I again questioned whether I should complete the whole run or cut it short but the calf felt better the longer I was running on it.
Sunday was the last long run. Up at 4:00, pre-run breakfast, and then out the door by 6:00am. I was super stoked for this run. I decided to start this run earlier then I needed to (no real time commitments) but because the T+D was around 100 at 6:00am I wanted to simulate early October marathon weather. I was planning on being super cautious. My calf was still not 100%, so it wasn't worth the risk of any significant setbacks. Everything went as well as expected. When not running up/down hills I was in my almost normal long run stride with a few "twitches" here and there but nothing major. However, taking it slow on the hills (which reduced more twitches) also slowed me down on overall pace. I'm not terribly concerned with that. I mean the last long run for the May 2016 Wisconsin Marathon didn't even occur because I got super sick right before that weekend. However, then came mile 15. I could tell that my legs were getting fatigued as my form started to fall apart. It wasn't breathing and it wasn't pain, it was just a weird sensation I get where I can best describe it as "I forget how to run". It was "Attack of the Jelly Legs - The SEQUEL". I've never really had this occur twice in one week, but I think it's likely being caused my over fatigued single set of muscles. So since, I wasn't prepared to go "there" again I decided to back off on the pace a bit. So the last two intervals were a tad slower, but better that than a long term problem that carries over into race day. Overall, I'm pretty stoked with how the day finished out. Came home and felt strong and recovered well with some shopping with no ill effects of the "Jelly Legs".
Monday was a slap of DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness). So during Monday I was fine, but once I started running it became very apparent just how tired my body was from the workouts. The last time I had this feeling of overwhelming fatigue was Marathon Weekend after the half/morning of the marathon. Those first couple miles were a struggle, but since this was an EA day it was a "go as slow as you want and don't worry about it day". After a few miles, the sense of overwhelming fatigue finally broke and it felt better. Thankfully, no occurrences of right calf twitching or tightness so I think I've put that behind me. Once I got home I saw that the pace was a 9:20 and was a little disappointed. I was suppose to do 9:11. I was getting a little concerned that maybe I've pushed too hard these last few days and my body's starting to rebel. To confirm this, I decided to look at prior EA runs after the 18 mile long runs. They were 9:15 and 9:22 average pace. So it was a bit of a relief to see that this EA run was no different than roughly 28 days ago after my first very successful and easy 18 mile run. I was less concerned with the overall pace after that.
Tuesday was a question of whether I continued to go easy or do the strength run as planned. I decided to play it by ear. Start the run easy with the warm-up and then see how it goes. So, here's how it went (goal pace 7:23)
Interval 1- 7:39
Interval 2- 7:21
Interval 3- 7:24
Interval 4- 7:21
Yep, it went well. No calf pain. No hip pain. A little bit of stuffy nose (still haven't gotten rid of whatever that is, but it only occurs during running). Solid all around.
I've been training for so long for this. Almost the entire year has been devoted to this one race. Every mile. Every 100 degree day. Every -25 degree day. Every day running in snow, rain, wind, at 3am, at 10pm, with muscle soreness, with humidity, with a training plan way above anything I've done has all been for October 2nd. To put it one way I recently did on the running thread. I will have spent almost 2000 miles training for a race that is only 26.2 miles. That's roughly 99.987% time running as training and only 0.0131% of the time running this particular race. No pressure. This is just the victory lap of training!
Honestly, there's not much left.
Long Runs - 0
Tempo Runs - 2
Strength Runs - 1
This really is the home stretch and entrance into taper town.
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I like this one. It's simplistic. According to the page it came from...the wind blew down most of the signs that day.
Welcome to less than 20 days!
Love it!
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Awwww baby zebra!!!
Way to go attacking an 11 mile tempo. Where's my "bow-down" emoji?
Congrats on having the ability to hold a conversation at that pace...albeit an entirely awkward and creepy sounding one. My "stranger danger" alert would have been going off in my head. I hope he doesn't roll up next to any women with pepper spray...eeeek.
I agree with you on preferring road to treadmill. Harder to figure out this "perceived effort" thing while setting it and forgetting it on the treadmill. I did get my 4 miles EB in tonight at the gym. So I hit my paces spot on
Hey I just realized that if you ever want to do a race at EA next to me...you'd be pacing me to a pretty great time. And you may not even break a sweat. Pretty impressive stuff, man!!!
Way to go attacking an 11 mile tempo. Where's my "bow-down" emoji?
Congrats on having the ability to hold a conversation at that pace...albeit an entirely awkward and creepy sounding one. My "stranger danger" alert would have been going off in my head. I hope he doesn't roll up next to any women with pepper spray...eeeek.
I agree with you on preferring road to treadmill. Harder to figure out this "perceived effort" thing while setting it and forgetting it on the treadmill. I did get my 4 miles EB in tonight at the gym. So I hit my paces spot on
Hey I just realized that if you ever want to do a race at EA next to me...you'd be pacing me to a pretty great time. And you may not even break a sweat. Pretty impressive stuff, man!!!
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I totally concur with your wife. Get paid to run? Yes please! Should have gotten a business card. Maybe they could hook you up to all those crazy machines and figure out your true vo2 max for free! Buuuuut it would probably muck with your training plan.
Love the visual of some random dude pulling up and commenting on your form and you pointing in a vague direction due to the creepiness factor.
Love the visual of some random dude pulling up and commenting on your form and you pointing in a vague direction due to the creepiness factor.
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IDK. I've heard that guy is kind of shady ...
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OMG, forgot one of the best parts of last night's Strength run. Streamer bike girl made another appearance. Not an official race this time, but we were definitely pacing each other. Looks like she pushed me into the 6:50 min/mile zone (goal of 7:23). LOL!
Knew, you'd like the baby zebra. You know now that you mention it it never occurred to me that I was holding a decent conversation at that pace. It was only just past mile 1 of the tempo, but still that's got to be a good sign. Yea, it was definitely awkward and I should have recommended him not doing that to anyone else. Although he did seem like a nice guy overall.
LOL, at hitting your paces dead on on a treadmill. I guess if you think about it maybe me disliking treadmills so much makes me an even better candidate. Because if they could make a treadmill I'd be willing to tolerate then they must have done something right. Or maybe they could help me create my virtual treadmill room for my futuristic training center.
i'm game whenever you are. Just have to find a race somewhere between us (near the Ill border), has packet pickup on day of/someone else can pick it up, and keep the price down (none of these crazy Chicago area prices).
LOL. I know my wife won't let me forget it. It would probably muck with the training, maybe in January 2018 I'd be more willing as I'm hoping to be in a different place physically/race wise at that time. Yea, it was weird because he was slow rolling next to me and then I could tell he was trying to get my attention. And then he opens with "Where do you start your run?" Ummm, yea that way ---->
LOL. Will do. I'm guessing they'd like you to be in Wisconsin to locally test. But I'd guess if you're a consistent treadmill runner maybe they'd be willing to ship you one.
Sounds like this guy you know might fit in quite well with the guy in charge. LOL. I kid, I kid. Honestly, the guy seemed very nice just a weird situation.
Awwww baby zebra!!!
Way to go attacking an 11 mile tempo. Where's my "bow-down" emoji?
Congrats on having the ability to hold a conversation at that pace...albeit an entirely awkward and creepy sounding one. My "stranger danger" alert would have been going off in my head. I hope he doesn't roll up next to any women with pepper spray...eeeek.
I agree with you on preferring road to treadmill. Harder to figure out this "perceived effort" thing while setting it and forgetting it on the treadmill. I did get my 4 miles EB in tonight at the gym. So I hit my paces spot on
Hey I just realized that if you ever want to do a race at EA next to me...you'd be pacing me to a pretty great time. And you may not even break a sweat. Pretty impressive stuff, man!!!
Knew, you'd like the baby zebra. You know now that you mention it it never occurred to me that I was holding a decent conversation at that pace. It was only just past mile 1 of the tempo, but still that's got to be a good sign. Yea, it was definitely awkward and I should have recommended him not doing that to anyone else. Although he did seem like a nice guy overall.
LOL, at hitting your paces dead on on a treadmill. I guess if you think about it maybe me disliking treadmills so much makes me an even better candidate. Because if they could make a treadmill I'd be willing to tolerate then they must have done something right. Or maybe they could help me create my virtual treadmill room for my futuristic training center.
i'm game whenever you are. Just have to find a race somewhere between us (near the Ill border), has packet pickup on day of/someone else can pick it up, and keep the price down (none of these crazy Chicago area prices).
LOL. I know my wife won't let me forget it. It would probably muck with the training, maybe in January 2018 I'd be more willing as I'm hoping to be in a different place physically/race wise at that time. Yea, it was weird because he was slow rolling next to me and then I could tell he was trying to get my attention. And then he opens with "Where do you start your run?" Ummm, yea that way ---->
LOL. Will do. I'm guessing they'd like you to be in Wisconsin to locally test. But I'd guess if you're a consistent treadmill runner maybe they'd be willing to ship you one.
Sounds like this guy you know might fit in quite well with the guy in charge. LOL. I kid, I kid. Honestly, the guy seemed very nice just a weird situation.
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