To All that use an ECV or other Assisted Device, I 'get it' now...

abeyst

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This is a post I should have done months ago after our December 2007 trip, but somehow the months have gotten away from me.

I realized from Day 1 at Disney (November 30th), that this trip was going to be different than my trips in the past. Being an annual visitor with DS8 and DD5, we think we're experts. But this trip would include 5 other people who have never been to Disney before - and 1 would be in an ECV.

The ECV was for my grandmother - who was 72 at the time we traveled. I spent much time here in DisAbilities getting great advice from all of you on how to handle a 1st time trip with an ECVer (later to be knicknamed her "Wheelie" :) Gotta love Grandma!) Grandma didn't have visible disabilities, but she's on the frail side and has lower back (disk) problems, so standing and walking for more than an hour is debilitating for her. She resisted using the ECV - thinking she would be a hindrance to us and wanted to walk. We explained to her that she'd be more of a problem if she walked on her own.

It only took about an hour in Epcot for me to realize how tough it is for Wheelie Drivers to manouver through the crowds, and how inconsiderate people are when someone in a Wheelie is trying to manouver through a park. People constantly would cut in front of her, or crowd her or force her to stop. She was so worried about hitting someone that we eventually had to make almost a circle around her to give her room to drive and turn. I thought people were bad when I was pushing a stroller, but it was even worse for her driving her Wheelie.

It took a few days before she didn't really want to use it anymore. She liked not walking, but she hated trying to drive it and not injure anyone. She ended up touring a few hours in the morning with us (sometimes walking sometimes driving), then taking the afternoon off. She'd only tour at night if she drove that morning and wasn't too tired to walk at night - there was NO WAY she could drive at night.

We were at MGM one night to see the Osborne lights, and she stayed back at the room. There were so many people walking by ABC Comissary that we could hardly move. There was one woman in an ECV and she had the worst time with all those people so close to her - I don't know if she ever made it over to the lights. I felt so bad for her - having toured with similar problems the day before I knew exactly how she felt.

I just wanted to tell all of you how SORRY I am for the difficulties you face in your mobility due to other park guests. I'm sure until last December I was one of those guests, even though I wish I wasn't. I honestly didn't understand how difficult it is for someone with mobility challenges to get around the park, and how other people walking could have such an effect on it. The December trip with someone in an ECV has opened my eyes.

Trips from now on will be taken with a better awareness of ECVers and the like, and I will help anyone I see who needs it. I like to consider myself empathetic, and I always try to put myself in the shoes of others and treat people like I like to be treated. Maybe that's why the realization in December of the ECV difficulties completely caught me off guard. I wish there was a way to inform others who may not go through what I went through; I'm sure there's lots more out there who would be more aware of those Wheelies around them.
 
thank you for your post and sorry you had to learn first hand how difficult things can be.:grouphug:
It sounds like you had a good time despite the difficulties.:thumbsup2
 
I agree. I have seen people jump in front of them and everything else.

However, I have also seen some people driving the EVCs like maniacs. No lie. They did not look or care and were just going full force, doing u-turns and everything else. I had to move my child out of the way one time last trip. So this does also happen. Just like the stroller drivers (and I am a stroller driver myself). Some people are careful and some are not. I had to fuss and tell a woman to watch where she was going last time who hit me with her stroller not paying a bit of attention. Better than hitting my oldest son who was with me of course. But still. I wish everybody would just pay more attention to their surroundings (whether walking, riding, or pushing things).

I hope your grandmother had a nice trip overall!

Sandra
 
Trips from now on will be taken with a better awareness of ECVers and the like, and I will help anyone I see who needs it. I like to consider myself empathetic, and I always try to put myself in the shoes of others and treat people like I like to be treated. Maybe that's why the realization in December of the ECV difficulties completely caught me off guard. I wish there was a way to inform others who may not go through what I went through; I'm sure there's lots more out there who would be more aware of those Wheelies around them.

I am so glad that you posted this! I have not gone to the Parks with anyone who has needed an ECV but I did research these boards to provide information to someone taking a trip. I cannot believe the unnecessary difficulties that are faced by someone in an ECV or wheelchair. I am afraid that I may also have been one of those people in the past that wasn't as careful as I could have been. That will definitely change this trip for DS and I. I will definitely be more aware and also offer any assistance that may be needed. I thank everyone on this board for the eye opener.
 

Glad you had the oppertunity to learn about this in a disney way. :)

Don't ever beat yourself up about what used to be. You didn't know any better. While it would've been great if you did, it's not abnormal or weird never having realised it. It wasn't unwillingness on your part so no need for blame. Now you know better, you did and do better and that's what counts.

You know, it's the same as with strollers. You never really 'get it' untill you get experience with it. How difficult queues can be, side curbs etc. How quick a low bag can sway into a small child etc. Once you experience something first hand, it's eye-opening. I thought I was 'stroller-friendly' and 'only got frustrated with those parents that deserved it for hitting my ankles on purpose'. Well, that kinda changed after getting my first wheelchair. I found out I wasn't THAT friendly and it hadn't really crossed my mind you can't always stop a stroller right in that second on that specific inch and some bumps are accidental.

Once you kno better, you do better. If you only spread this lesson to 10 people in your whole lifetime, you've moved a rock and therefor made an impact. I'll move a rock, Sue moves a rock, so many DIS-ers move a rock. And with each rock we move the mountain more and more towards more public realisation.
 
Thank you for posting this! It's always good to know that at least some of the people on foot understand quite how tricky it can be when you're on wheels; it makes it that much easier to cope with the people who obliviously leap in front of us! :thumbsup2
 














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