tired already by the people helping the needy

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I never give to SA because they are not LGBT friendly.

I would never say so under normal circumstances, I would just smile and pass on by, but I also encountered an overbearing bell-ringer this past weekend and I did tell her why I wouldn't give.

Maybe because of the economic conditions the higher ups at SA have told the bell-ringers to be more aggressive. :confused3
 
When I get to feeling broke I go to www.globalrichlist.com

It compares my income to the population of the planet as a whole- makes it hard to keep feeling broke.

A friend of mine reads the blog of a 21 year old missionary in Africa who has adopted 14 children there. The toilet seats on the outhouse were broken and her father offered to buy new ones during his yearly visit. She was stunned. She said "Do you know how many children I could feed for the price of new toilet seats?"

It's really given me new perspective this year.
 
The Salvation Army has such a good record so some of these posts are surprising. You just never know I guess.

The charity that I distrust is the United Way. I refer only to the parent company in this.

I hate when somebody makes a blanket statement like X is bad but won't tell when you ask.

I would like to hear SA deep dark secert, If they are bad charity I don't want to donate to them.

Maybe they are against the religious part of the SA.

I have a family member who was saved by the Salvation Army (drugs, homeless, etc). I always give to the Salvation Army.

This is why I think they are a good charity.
 

I never give to SA because they are not LGBT friendly.

I would never say so under normal circumstances, I would just smile and pass on by, but I also encountered an overbearing bell-ringer this past weekend and I did tell her why I wouldn't give.

Maybe because of the economic conditions the higher ups at SA have told the bell-ringers to be more aggressive. :confused3
This is a valid reason not to give to them. I want to know why the others won't tell.
 
This is a valid reason not to give to them. I want to know why the others won't tell.

Everybody else is trying to stay out of politics :thumbsup2

Plus its easy to google, and I wouldn't want to come off as criticizing someone else for their donations, or their hard work.
 
This is a valid reason not to give to them. I want to know why the others won't tell.

Because there are certain things that should not be broadcast on a large message boards such as this (for a variety of reasons); there are certain things that aren't allowed on this particular message board; and there is no "full disclosure" rule in the DIS guidelines that requires anyone to divulge more than what is appropriate and/or acceptable..

No one is telling anyone else who to donate to, so I don't see what the issue is.. :confused3 If anyone has questions about any charity that they contribute to (or are considering contributing to), it's up to that individual to research it to the fullest, stay in touch with the workings of that charity in your local area, and then make ones own decision..:)
 
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I, also, do not donate to the Salvation Army.
 
This is a valid reason not to give to them. I want to know why the others won't tell.

Because this thread would have the potential to turn very ugly if that became the topic of it. It is easy enough to do an internet search and figure out the reason why some choose not to support the SA :)
 
I have yet to ever be harassed for donations. Asked, certianly, harassed, no. Asked and harassed are two different things.

There are a lot of organizations out there collecting right now- because there is more need than there has been in years past. More need and less donators mean more assertive solicitation techniques. I suppose it could be annoying to some, but to me, its not offensive.

Nobody can "make you feel guilty" about anything. Nobody can force you to feel a certian way. If you know who you are and what you're dealing with financially, why would you not just shrug it off when asked for donations? A simple "no thanks" and keep going on you way is not offensive to anyone. :confused3 Trust me, they hear 'no' a million times a day.

Look, my first job was as a telemarketer for Olan Mills. I got hung up on 20 times for each one person that even listened to my speil. I got 20 rejections for every 1 sale. Its not personal and it doesn't hurt when people say no. If you don't like being asked, then just walk on by.

That said, thank God there are people out there hounding for donations - people will eat and be sheltered becuase of it. We all do what we can, some people need more reminders than others.
 
It seems as if there is someone asking for money at every store entrance and at the checkout stands too.

If I am out shopping, I give once per day. If I don't have the time or money, I just say "not today" and keep walking.

The thing is, when you are at your most vulnerable, you are also very sensitive. The OP mentions that she is already cutting back and it also sounds like she is used to being a "giver" and feels bad enough about that already. It is just very hard to be on the other side, she doesn't need to be hounded into giving what she can't afford to give.

I am glad that many of you have posted that you don't get pressured to give. It has happened to me a few times and I am immediately turned off by that approach.

I once had a cashier chide me for not donating $1 to help needy kids read. Well... at that time I was a teacher in a very low income school and spent quite a bit of my own money helping needy kids read! It was just kind of insulting to get the high pressure pitch from some goober running a register.

I think that companies who solict contributions need to make sure that their employees are making requests not making demands.;)
 
The stoplight people are the worst though. I hate being trapped at red lights with some of those groups. I've had them knock on my car windows and stand there outside my car glaring when I shake my head no.

I can NOT stand that & refuse to give to any charity or group that does that. I think it's so dangerous to have these people out there in the street & one of these days (if it hasn't happened already), someone is going to get killed doing that. I know they wait for you to stop at the light, etc... but the light always turns green and they are still out there trying to get the last few cars in, etc... so basically they are still in the street with moving traffic.

I read it as the OP was upset with them giving her a hard time about not donating more than them just being out there.
 
Yes OP, the pressure is on because times are really tough-as you know. I'm greatful you are not one of the people who need help from these organizations! I'm sorry they made you feel bad. Just keep smiling and tell them you can't give right now. Walk away with your head high that you are taking care of yourself at this time; it's a valid reason not to give. But, you might have some time somewhere in your week or month that you could donate to help someone. Maybe a community resource center who needs a driver for the elderly or someone to help sort donations. Good luck and bless you.

So far, no one has harrassed me for a donation. I've had people ask in a kind, calm way but no one has been angry or pushy. To that kind of approach, I would tell them they would be more successful with a peaceful pitch rather than their 'in the face' style. It's just not happened to me nor have I seen anyone being harrassed.
 
No one in my family will donate to SA. As other people have said, for reasons not to be talked abouton the message boards.

We donate money mainly to medical research/hospitals...stuff like that.
This year we donated to St. Jude, LLS, CHLA, Mattel Children's Hospital
We also donated toys, gift cards, arts and crafts supplies to CHLA and Mattel
I also volunteer at CHLA once a week

We all choose charities based on different reasons.
We choose to help the medical communities while others choose to help the homless, hungry, etc.
It's a personal choice.
 
I love the Salvation Army, and never pass their kettles without dropping a couple of dollars in them.

When my 8 year old nephew was diagnosed with cancer, SA showed up immediately and gave my DB $700 to help with expenses in taking my nephew to Houston for treatment. My DB was not poor, but he and his family spent the next year 600 miles from home while my DN was being treated for cancer, and that money was very helpful at the time. I don't know who told the SA about my DN's cancer, but I will never forget their kindness during a very stressful time in our family's life. I think they are a wonderful organization and I will always support them. :thumbsup2

I prefer to make the majority of my charitable donations to St. Jude's Children hospital, and to the Make A Wish Foundation. I also donate to our local Animal Shelter at Christmas, and my DH gives a nice weekly donation through payroll deduction to our local food bank. I have never felt harassed for money by any charity, but then I generally donate when someone asks.
 
i'll disclose information from my professional expereinces that may help to explain why some persons with intimate knowledge/experiences with certain very high profile/well thought of/highly rated (donations going to recipients vs. administration) charities choose not to personaly financialy support these same charities.


when i worked for social services i learned that many well known national/international charities have policies for accessing funds by applicants that not only disadvantages the applicants but disadvantage countless others. by this i mean, when a disaster or personal situation/tragedy occurs and a person/family makes application to these charities they are intialy told that before their application can even be considered they must first apply for and be determined "formaly" ineligible to any local/state or federal public assistance emergency funds.

in my experience these charities would not accept a quick determination by a public assistance professional that the applicant was ineligible (can be done easily with honest disclosure by an applicant in 5-10 minutes), it was required that a formal application and denial take place (can take up to 45 days and requires documentation those whose homes have been damaged/lost are not in a situation to begin to provide, and requires a minimum of 5 hours of dss staff time for all aspects). people were placed into a position where in order to receive housing or assistance they had to somehow manage, at a horrendous time in their lives, to get to a dss office, fill out a barrage of paperwork, and then be told that no initial determination that could be made was deemed acceptable by the charity.



if the family/individual WAS eligible to p.a. emergency funds it was horrendously minimal at best (we could pay maybe $300 for an entire household of belongings), and the funds they drew from were in place to cover a wide variety of emergency situations, but the funds were insanely limited. SO-a person who "could" be served if they were ineligible to p.a. funds for a fire or flood or hurricane by one of the BIG named charities used up the funds such that another person who had a legitimate emergent need that WAS'NT one of the ones covered by one of the big named charites was left out with any means of p.a. or charitable aide (it was routine, in a GOOD year, that our agencie's emergency funds became available in January and were gone by March at the latest:sad2:).


for me it made me reccognize that some large scale charities manage to keep their 'administrative costs' down by virtue of utilizing tax payer dollers via dss employees to administer the bulk of their applications. additionaly, because we had some of these charities located in our buildings i came to understand that administrative costs were further minimized (or grossly underreported) by virtue of the charities utlizing staff ("volunteers") they received funding for(commonly mandatory jail work release or community service "volunteers" for which the charity received funds to allow them to serve their time). the stats on the amount they spent on admin costs vs what they received in charitable donations was awsome, the reality in how much they received by virtue of public funding and pay for participation 'volunteering' and utilized for admin. was horrendous.


i'm not sour on all chairites-but i investigate any i'm inclined to give to, and i resent hostile solicitations. i've experienced them face to face and by phone.

our local safeway apparantly has taken notice of the issue of people being offended by the seemingly constant barrage of charitable solicitations these days. whereas the clerks used to ask at check out if you wished to donate to their 'charity of the week', they now no longer ask in leiu of the small machine in which you enter your membership number making a non audible inquiry.
 
I'm sorry if you are going to go around bad mouthing a charity you should back up your claims and not cop out saying Oh I don't have to there no rules saying I have to or it's aganist the Dis rules when you could simply Pm people.
 
I never give to SA because they are not LGBT friendly.

I would never say so under normal circumstances, I would just smile and pass on by, but I also encountered an overbearing bell-ringer this past weekend and I did tell her why I wouldn't give.

Maybe because of the economic conditions the higher ups at SA have told the bell-ringers to be more aggressive. :confused3

I appreciate your view on SA:) Thanks for sharing:thumbsup2
 
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